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| [00:45:16] | tonsofpcs: | hmm, so I have frontend running, I'm not home, how will I tell if the issue occurs... |
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| [00:46:12] | tonsofpcs: | stichnot: so I realized one problem with my plan to get the frontend in live mode and the system logging for #11207 tonight... |
| [00:46:12] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11207 ** | |
| [00:46:17] | tonsofpcs: | I'm not home, how will I know if it happened? |
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| [00:54:23] | stichnot: | tonsofpcs: perhaps you could use the network control interface, "query location", to detect when there is a popup, then blindly send keys, e.g. "key down down select" to simulate sitting in front of the TV |
| [00:54:42] | stichnot: | but there's a high chance of a mistake if you haven't rehearsed it in advance |
| [00:56:17] | tonsofpcs: | well, my operation if it pops up is to not do anything, so that's fine, but I want to detect if it happens so I know if I should pull the logs |
| [00:56:24] | tonsofpcs: | note: I expect it to happen in 3 minutes |
| [00:56:32] | tonsofpcs: | also, I'm not sure what this network interface is |
| [00:56:39] | tonsofpcs: | I have ssh access. |
| [00:57:15] | xris: | stuartm: I don't think we have SPF for mythtv.org |
| [00:57:30] | xris: | yeah, dig TXT shows nothing |
| [00:58:33] | tonsofpcs: | no TXT, no SPF, there is an MX. |
| [01:03:11] | xris: | yeah. we opted not to set up spf because all of the personal @mythtv.org addresses are just forwarding addresses and it was easier to let users use their own servers rather than try to set up a authenticated smtp on alcor |
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| [01:05:20] | skd5aner: | gigem: ping – you happen to be around? |
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| [01:36:42] | gigem: | skd5aner, dekarl, stichnot and tonsofpcs: Just scanning the backlog now. Unfortunately, I have to logout and do some hardware maintenance. I'll be back in a while. |
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| [01:43:45] | gigem: | Okay, logged back on now, but still need to work on another system. Post if you need me, and I'll check the backlog when I can. |
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| [02:55:47] | skd5aner: | gigem: saw a weird issue with the scheduler today... |
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| [02:57:17] | skd5aner: | gigem: we've got a recording rule setup to record "Criminal Minds" – any channel, keep a max of 2 episodes and don't record if max recordings exist. |
| [02:57:20] | skd5aner: | gigem: it's frequently re-run. We record it as "filler", so we don't care about new versus re-run, and it's in heavy syndication... |
| [02:57:50] | skd5aner: | we usually watch an episode or two every so often. Wife watched 2 this morning, deleted them both.... |
| [02:58:52] | skd5aner: | early afternoon, it started recording new ones, and 2 quickly recorded... then 2 more started recording at the same time (different channels), and the first two were still listed. Then, the first 2 were eventually deleted automatically, and then another episode started.... |
| [02:59:08] | skd5aner: | to record, and then eventually deleted one of hte other episodes |
| [02:59:23] | skd5aner: | I've got several "record until max" rules and never seen this before, but obviously something's not right |
| [02:59:42] | skd5aner: | 0.26-fixes btw |
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| [03:34:16] | skd5aner: | gigem: running to bed, I catch up with you/backlog tomorrow |
| [03:43:55] | tonsofpcs: | xris: you can set up a SPF that says "it might come from anywhere" |
| [03:44:29] | tonsofpcs: | gigem: I got home and the tuner was on 34.1 ... doesn't really tell me anything. I'll check the upnp list in a bit (since it will show me what sshows were recorded during live) |
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| [04:07:48] | xris: | tonsofpcs: that's the same as "no SPF record" :) |
| [04:11:49] | tonsofpcs: | some MXs tret "no SPF record" differently |
| [04:11:50] | tonsofpcs: | *treat |
| [04:11:57] | tonsofpcs: | they maybe should not, but they do. |
| [04:15:31] | gigem: | skd5aner: Okay. Catch me tomorrow. I know there's a problem when two or more programs start at the same time. If we're under the limit, all will be recorded. I've always considered that a case where the fix is probably more complicated than it's worth. The question is why did any record when you were at the limit. I'd start by checking your logs. My initial guess is that one or more of your already |
| [04:15:33] | gigem: | recorded programs weren't counted because they failed the recording quality check. |
| [04:16:22] | gigem: | tonsofpcs: If you think it didn't work right, please send me the backend log. |
| [04:18:43] | gigem: | dekarl: I'm not really sure what you're asking, but I'll take a stab anyway. It should be fairly easy to restrict the EIT reschedule to chanid and/or mplexid in addition to or instead of sourceid. I consulted danielk22 when I originally made those changes and we decided to just use sourceid for the time being. |
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| [04:24:00] | tonsofpcs: | gigem: where do I get the logs from and how should I send them? |
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| [04:40:13] | tonsofpcs: | gigem: it definitely got tuned around. was on 46.1, moved to 34.1 at 1900, moved to 40.1 at 2000, moved to 12.1 at 2100, and 34.1 at 2200. |
| [04:45:03] | tonsofpcs: | I've tar/gzipped the /var/log/mythtv directory now. |
| [04:46:56] | tonsofpcs: | #11027 |
| [04:46:56] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11027 ** | |
| [04:46:59] | tonsofpcs: | #11207 |
| [04:46:59] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11207 ** | |
| [04:53:06] | tonsofpcs: | added to the ticket. copied and pasted in schedule data from earlier and what I just said |
| [04:54:53] | wagnerrp: | gigem: you still around? |
| [04:56:33] | wagnerrp: | gigem, stuartm, dekarl: re #11354... is there any reason subtitles might have newline characters in them? |
| [04:56:33] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11354 ** | |
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| [05:39:26] | gigem: | tonsofpcs: I'll look at the logs tomorrow. Thanks for collecting them. |
| [05:41:03] | gigem: | wagnerrp: I'm on my way to bed. I wouldn't expect subtitle to have newlines, but I doubt we've done anythign to prevent them either. It sounds like maybe we need to do that. |
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| [06:46:53] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: might want to take a look at #11183 at some time |
| [06:46:53] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11183 ** | |
| [06:46:59] | wagnerrp: | it's not the cleanest, but it should work |
| [06:47:17] | wagnerrp: | would probably be worth some better way to manipulate the state |
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| [07:22:07] | wagnerrp: | danielk22: didn't you already fix #11199? |
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| [08:15:14] | dekarl: | gigem http://paste.ubuntu.com/1536909/ notice that the first schedule is for 2 weeks and the third is for 1 week. neither is restricted to the transport. |
| [08:17:39] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: that's an easy one. Its because there are no subtitles in DVB, there is only a short and a long description. We use the short description as episode-/subtitle which works for many broadcasters (notice the EITFixup that drops the subtitle when it matches the title). Some broadcasters add newlines to their descriptions and put a copy of the description in both fields (short description being limited by the lenght of the DVB field and our |
| [08:18:30] | dekarl: | I've been thinking about how to change our defaults and what fixups we will need for the various ways that broadcaster try to stuff their data in the DVB data model |
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| [08:20:20] | dekarl: | gigem, my question is "how do you like the idea of not scheduling EIT present+following updates for other transports" |
| [08:23:03] | dekarl: | reasoning being the low return for the invested scheduling effort. EITpf gives a better return with stuff like http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10101 |
| [08:31:35] | ** wagnerrp reminds dekarl about #10101 ** | |
| [08:31:35] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10101 ** | |
| [08:36:05] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: I don't get it, thats the ticket I referred to :) Copy'n'paste error? |
| [08:36:20] | wagnerrp: | no, you don't have to copy/paste |
| [08:36:23] | wagnerrp: | just type the number |
| [08:36:33] | dekarl: | ahh, got it |
| [08:37:03] | dekarl: | but it wastes a good line for little gain (can we have the ticket title in there? :D |
| [08:37:35] | wagnerrp: | would take quite a bit more logic |
| [08:37:46] | wagnerrp: | right now, it's just a dumb repeater |
| [08:37:53] | wagnerrp: | but there's no reason we couldn't |
| [08:38:10] | wagnerrp: | in fact, i believe trac has some kind of RPC access to make it easy to retrieve that information |
| [08:38:17] | dekarl: | I also have adding support for [off] to beirdobot for off the record hints on "my list" |
| [08:38:52] | wagnerrp: | if not, i'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to grab the page name off the headers |
| [08:39:04] | wagnerrp: | "[off]"? |
| [08:39:07] | dekarl: | I forgot where I saw that but some channel gets the page title off all pasted urls via a bot |
| [08:39:27] | wagnerrp: | zinn does that |
| [08:39:29] | dekarl: | aye, over at musicbrainz the logbot keeps lines with "[off]" off the records |
| [08:39:35] | wagnerrp: | i've seen a lot of bots that do that |
| [08:39:51] | wagnerrp: | is there a good reason to have something "off" the records? |
| [08:40:52] | dekarl: | If I understood correctly this channel wasn't logged for years due to people seeing such reasons. |
| [08:41:45] | dekarl: | sometimes I'd like to post a hint/rant that I'd prefer not to go to the logs |
| [08:41:57] | wagnerrp: | can't seem to find beirdobot's source on alcor... |
| [08:42:37] | dekarl: | I look at the one hosted at https://github.com/Beirdo/beirdobot |
| [08:42:57] | wagnerrp: | that will wok |
| [08:42:59] | dekarl: | that's how I learned about the search function (which sadly doesn't work) |
| [08:43:11] | wagnerrp: | could have sworn i had a local checkout somewhere |
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| [10:06:00] | stuartm: | !search [off] |
| [10:06:14] | stuartm: | works |
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| [12:30:27] | danielk22: | wagnerrp: I don't recall working on #11199. |
| [12:30:27] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11199 ** | |
| [12:35:55] | dekarl: | stuartm: ? http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2013-01-16:10:06 |
| [12:36:06] | stuartm: | https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/afa03 . . . 1f7585a2f02f |
| [12:36:15] | stuartm: | wagnerrp, danielk22: ^^ |
| [12:36:33] | stuartm: | dekarl: !search works for me? |
| [12:36:44] | dekarl: | stuartm: ohh, I thought [off] works |
| [12:36:45] | stuartm: | !search {search string} |
| [12:37:07] | dekarl: | http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/search?s=[off] doesn't work for me |
| [12:37:14] | dekarl: | !search [off] |
| [12:37:23] | stuartm: | in reference to: <dekarl> that's how I learned about the search function (which sadly doesn't work) |
| [12:37:40] | dekarl: | it appears there are multiple search functions |
| [12:48:48] | deepee: | Hi all. I am new to Mythtv and am about to start building a Mythtv box. I am quite comfortable around linux and am wondering if I should go the Mythbuntu route (takes me to Mythtv 0.25 if my reading is correct), or go the "linux distro of choice" route and install mythtv 0.26 on top of that. Any advice gratefully received ! – thx |
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| [12:53:08] | danielk22: | deepee: This is the development channel #mythtv-users is the appropriate channel for that discussion. |
| [12:53:29] | deepee: | I do apologise !! Sorry Daniel !! Thx |
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| [13:29:27] | tonsofpcs: | gigem: not sure what times the logs report, times in my notes are Z-5 (as is the local clock) [0.25] |
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| [16:24:21] | wagnerrp: | stuartm, danielk22: yeah, that's the commit i was thinking fixed #11199 |
| [16:24:21] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11199 ** | |
| [16:25:41] | gigem: | dekarl: I'll defer to whatever you and other EIT users want. I'm not that familiar with the specifics of EIT, don't currently use it and don't expect to really ever use it. |
| [16:26:45] | gigem: | tonsofpcs: The log times should be local. Any other times printed in the logs could be local or UTC. |
| [16:51:32] | skd5aner: | gigem: backend log related to the "max recording" issue – http://pastebin.com/QjEeUSp4 More continued to record even after I reached out to you – one at 9PM and one at 10PM |
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| [16:56:11] | skd5aner: | gigem: I figure, you always like a new scheduler challenge ;) |
| [16:57:25] | skd5aner: | gigem: if I'm correct, I basically truncated the log from the point where it started to record the first episode, and I think all previous episodes had been watched and deleted (0 in the watch recordings) – I'm guessing they were in the deleted group however waiting for autoexpire |
| [16:58:01] | skd5aner: | so the log should reflect it recording because there were no recordings currently recorded, and the rule allows a max of 2 |
| [17:03:03] | gigem: | skd5aner: Normally I do, but not when I've got too many other things already going on. I'll queue this one up for later. Feel free to remind me if I forget about it. |
| [17:03:29] | skd5aner: | gigem: heh – sorry for attempting to put another spoonful on your plate |
| [17:03:33] | skd5aner: | :) |
| [17:03:56] | gigem: | np. |
| [17:04:37] | skd5aner: | I've used max recording rules for years and never seen this before – one of my fav features of the scheduler – not sure why it started going wonky all of a sudden, but rarely is there a show that runs in syndication so much simultaneously on multiple networks |
| [17:04:55] | skd5aner: | gigem: would you prefer I submit a ticket or just nudge you in the future? |
| [17:05:54] | gigem: | Sure. Than I can't claim I forgot about it. :) |
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| [18:24:29] | stichnot: | natanojl: I'm no expert on dvdnav, tracks, etc., but your patch for #9429 seems reasonable and seems to work on your LOTR sample. Do you want to just grab the ticket? |
| [18:24:29] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9429 ** | |
| [18:25:34] | stichnot: | I would commit it just to Master until sure that it doesn't break subtitle track mappings for other DVDs. |
| [18:30:29] | tonsofpcs: | gigem: right, that's why I gave the offset :) |
| [18:31:52] | tonsofpcs: | skd5aner: is it possible that the episodes it recorded were the same episodes as ones that were still existing in file-form but marked for deletion? (just thinking..) |
| [18:34:52] | skd5aner: | nope – they were different episodes |
| [18:35:11] | skd5aner: | sequential episode numbers even |
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| [19:42:06] | gigem: | tonsofpcs: There is something seriously wrong with your logs. There are sections that are missing. Those missing sections correspond to a period of particularly heavy logging. I suspect mythlogserver falls behind or some queues filled up and additional log entries get dropped until the backlog is worked off. Look in Scheduler::FillRecordList(). Your mythbackend log contains the entries for |
| [19:42:07] | gigem: | "BuildWorkList..." through "SchedNewRecords...", but then stops. It's the "SchedPreserveLiveTV..." part I really wanted to see and it's not there! |
| [19:42:12] | gigem: | Beirdo: ^^^ |
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| [20:04:49] | tonsofpcs: | gigem: interesting. |
| [20:05:16] | tonsofpcs: | is there dates that are missing or just logging types? |
| [20:06:20] | tonsofpcs: | (logging was set remotely while backend was running) |
| [20:11:32] | gigem: | It's just log entries that are missing and why I pointed it out to Beirdo. Although after looking, Beirdo's big, zeromq, logging changes weren't in version 0.25. Can you run your backend in foregraound mode? Sending the logs to stdout and capturing that might not drop logs. Or you could also upgrade 0.25. |
| [20:29:37] | dekarl: | is there a mechanism in ATSC/SCTE to put EIT data for one transport on another transport? (similar to EITother in DVB) |
| [20:45:15] | wagnerrp: | has anyone gotten HTML5 video to work in mythbrowser? |
| [20:45:35] | wagnerrp: | i'm looking through #11092, and i can get audio, but no video |
| [20:45:35] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11092 ** | |
| [20:50:03] | jheizer: | hmm, something messed with mythtranscode and HLS transcoding speeds between .25.3 and .26 I think. I don't think as many thread are being spooled up. |
| [20:51:26] | jheizer: | Confirmed HTTPLiveStreamThreads is set to 5 and it looks like transcode.cpp is using it still. |
| [21:05:26] | wagnerrp: | xris: you around? |
| [21:08:15] | wagnerrp: | anyway, i'm looking at this HTML5 stuff for the youtube MNV grabber |
| [21:08:52] | wagnerrp: | and the way MNV works, the grabber provides an HTML page for MNV to load, and the page defines how to access the player, as well as optional javascript controls |
| [21:09:08] | wagnerrp: | in youtube's case, you load an iframe |
| [21:09:52] | wagnerrp: | there is no control you can pass to the iframe to force HTML5, and the only way to manipulate it is from a PREF cookie on the youtube.com domain |
| [21:10:08] | wagnerrp: | you set f2 to 40000000 in that cookie and it allows HTML5 |
| [21:10:50] | wagnerrp: | is there any way we can force that cookie on the wrong domain in the wrapper page, without violating security lockouts to prevent such cross-domain editing? |
| [21:21:38] | xris: | wagnerrp: ? |
| [21:23:31] | wagnerrp: | i think i should be able to add a script to the page that calls http://www.youtube.com/html5, POSTing enable_html5=true, and the response would automatically set the necessary cookie |
| [21:24:06] | wagnerrp: | xris: just looking for an opinion on how to get around cross-site-scripting restrictions |
| [21:25:02] | wagnerrp: | although would a script from the local backend actually be allowed to query an external domain? |
| [21:26:28] | wagnerrp: | or would that still fall foul of CORS stuff? |
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| [21:46:14] | xris: | no wal around xss/cookie stuff |
| [21:46:33] | xris: | there's no json-p option for youtube iframe control? |
| [21:47:13] | clever: | wagnerrp: in the example you gave, you can bypass all security (that i know of) by using a real <form> with the correct elements, and just calling submit on it |
| [21:47:16] | wagnerrp: | it's a POST, so it doesn't matter |
| [21:47:22] | wagnerrp: | JSON-P only does GET |
| [21:48:10] | wagnerrp: | clever: you can submit a form to a domain different from the page? |
| [21:48:15] | clever: | wagnerrp: yeah |
| [21:48:39] | clever: | your code has no way of getting the output, so its considered 'safe' |
| [21:48:58] | clever: | its different then ajax calling up paypal.com and reading your credit-card numbers |
| [21:51:20] | clever: | test |
| [21:52:00] | clever: | dsl modem had crapped out, seems fine now |
| [21:53:22] | wagnerrp: | so something like this? http://pastebin.com/SKxqHZym |
| [21:53:51] | wagnerrp: | that wouldn't redirect the browser to http://www.youtube.com/html5? |
| [21:53:58] | clever: | wagnerrp: yeah, that may work, but it will redirect the whole page |
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| [21:54:14] | wagnerrp: | yeah, that's the problem |
| [21:54:15] | clever: | if you want to hide that redirect, an <iframe> containing that code can be used |
| [21:54:29] | clever: | and set that to style="display:none" |
| [22:11:13] | xris: | wagnerrp: yeah, or just put the whole form in an iframe and submit that way. you could probably create the iframe and form via js to only execute it when necessary |
| [22:12:38] | stuartm: | https://developers.google.com/youtube/iframe_api_reference |
| [22:13:11] | wagnerrp: | looks like google is blocking POST queries from outside domains |
| [22:13:24] | stuartm: | specifically "since it allows YouTube to serve an HTML5 player rather than a Flash player" |
| [22:13:36] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: yes, allows... not forces |
| [22:13:43] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: use the official API? |
| [22:14:28] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: their iframe checks a cookie to see if you have opted in to using html5 |
| [22:14:36] | wagnerrp: | you set the cookie at http://www.youtube.com/html5 |
| [22:15:12] | stuartm: | well that sucks, can't we force a mobile user agent instead? |
| [22:15:44] | wagnerrp: | heh, because of course that's more proper than trying to bypass cross-site security restrictions... :P |
| [22:16:15] | stuartm: | it's a lot easier :) |
| [22:16:21] | clever: | wagnerrp: is the javascript running in webkit on the frontend? |
| [22:16:38] | wagnerrp: | right now, i'm just testing it in firefox |
| [22:16:42] | clever: | ah |
| [22:17:05] | clever: | because if it ran in the frontend, you can just have some c++ code do the post to http://www.youtube.com/html5, with a fake referer |
| [22:17:21] | clever: | only thing you need to do is use the same cookie store as the browser widget |
| [22:17:42] | clever: | the c++ code doesnt have to obey the rules |
| [22:18:03] | wagnerrp: | i'm trying to keep everything within the grabber if possible |
| [22:18:15] | wagnerrp: | rather than have to make special allowances in the code |
| [22:18:52] | wagnerrp: | well i'm done looking at it for a while, need food... |
| [22:19:47] | stuartm: | yeah, but any solution that tries xss etc is going to break often as they fix the holes |
| [22:19:49] | stuartm: | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5845484/fo . . . outube-video |
| [22:19:50] | jheizer: | Since we are talking myhtbrowser, what desktop browser dies it most closely relate to? Was trying to setup an internal page for viewing and was having some problems with some content displaying. |
| [22:20:16] | stuartm: | jheizer: safari or maybe Konq are the closest relations |
| [22:21:08] | jheizer: | K, thanks. Was going to guess Konqueror was was not going to install all that on my frontend for this little test. |
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| [22:21:49] | jheizer: | (Viewing IP web cam feed in browser vs setting up all the mythzonminder stuff) |
| [22:22:14] | stuartm: | probably closer to safari these days, since webkit was forked from Konq and has seen a lot of contributions from Apple since |
| [22:24:13] | jheizer: | Got ya. Worked around it. Instead of just doing <img src="mjpeg stream" I and grabbing each frame and refreshing via JS |
| [22:24:28] | jheizer: | Works good enough for what I was trying to accomplish. |
| [22:26:27] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: adding &html5=1 to the url works here |
| [22:28:58] | jheizer: | Hmm, just tried a few here and it did not work. Still getting flash version. |
| [22:29:30] | stuartm: | which browser? |
| [22:29:40] | jheizer: | chrome |
| [22:29:47] | jheizer: | on win7 |
| [22:30:04] | stuartm: | fwiw, it's only going to work for some videos anyway, user uploaded ones generally, anything that's not copy protected |
| [22:30:42] | jheizer: | yeah why i was trying a few. |
| [22:30:43] | stuartm: | e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQyO_ktt_S8&html5=1 |
| [22:30:49] | jheizer: | link to one that worked for you? |
| [22:31:06] | jheizer: | Too slow. But got flash version. |
| [22:31:38] | stuartm: | guess it doesn't work with chrome |
| [22:31:39] | jheizer: | Worked in IE9 though |
| [22:31:53] | clever: | stuartm: that one gives me html5 on chrome (linux) |
| [22:31:54] | stuartm: | maybe chrome doesn't support html5, which would be ironic |
| [22:32:08] | jheizer: | and worked on firefox |
| [22:32:09] | jheizer: | weird |
| [22:32:22] | jheizer: | maybe left the html5 mode before trying |
| [22:32:28] | jheizer: | they are always showing me flash now |
| [22:32:40] | jheizer: | *maybe because I left |
| [22:33:43] | jheizer: | I set flash mode your example works. Eh, who knows. |
| [22:46:20] | jheizer: | Hmm maybe my mythtranscode is running 5 threads, just not taking up but 250% cpu. |
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| [23:38:04] | wagnerrp: | yeah, it's giving me flash versions in firefox |
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