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Wednesday, January 16th, 2013, 10:06 UTC

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stuartm:

!search [off]

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stuartm:

works

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danielk22:

wagnerrp: I don't recall working on #11199.

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11199 **

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dekarl:

stuartm: ? http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2013-01-16:10:06

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stuartm:

https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/afa03 . . . 1f7585a2f02f

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stuartm:

wagnerrp, danielk22: ^^

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stuartm:

dekarl: !search works for me?

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dekarl:

stuartm: ohh, I thought [off] works

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stuartm:

!search {search string}

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dekarl:

http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/search?s=[off] doesn't work for me

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dekarl:

!search [off]

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stuartm:

in reference to: <dekarl> that's how I learned about the search function (which sadly doesn't work)

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dekarl:

it appears there are multiple search functions

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deepee:

Hi all. I am new to Mythtv and am about to start building a Mythtv box. I am quite comfortable around linux and am wondering if I should go the Mythbuntu route (takes me to Mythtv 0.25 if my reading is correct), or go the "linux distro of choice" route and install mythtv 0.26 on top of that. Any advice gratefully received ! – thx

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danielk22:

deepee: This is the development channel #mythtv-users is the appropriate channel for that discussion.

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deepee:

I do apologise !! Sorry Daniel !! Thx

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tonsofpcs:

gigem: not sure what times the logs report, times in my notes are Z-5 (as is the local clock) [0.25]

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wagnerrp:

stuartm, danielk22: yeah, that's the commit i was thinking fixed #11199

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11199 **

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gigem:

dekarl: I'll defer to whatever you and other EIT users want. I'm not that familiar with the specifics of EIT, don't currently use it and don't expect to really ever use it.

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gigem:

tonsofpcs: The log times should be local. Any other times printed in the logs could be local or UTC.

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skd5aner:

gigem: backend log related to the "max recording" issue – http://pastebin.com/QjEeUSp4 More continued to record even after I reached out to you – one at 9PM and one at 10PM

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skd5aner:

gigem: I figure, you always like a new scheduler challenge ;)

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skd5aner:

gigem: if I'm correct, I basically truncated the log from the point where it started to record the first episode, and I think all previous episodes had been watched and deleted (0 in the watch recordings) – I'm guessing they were in the deleted group however waiting for autoexpire

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skd5aner:

so the log should reflect it recording because there were no recordings currently recorded, and the rule allows a max of 2

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gigem:

skd5aner: Normally I do, but not when I've got too many other things already going on. I'll queue this one up for later. Feel free to remind me if I forget about it.

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skd5aner:

gigem: heh – sorry for attempting to put another spoonful on your plate

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skd5aner:

:)

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gigem:

np.

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skd5aner:

I've used max recording rules for years and never seen this before – one of my fav features of the scheduler – not sure why it started going wonky all of a sudden, but rarely is there a show that runs in syndication so much simultaneously on multiple networks

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skd5aner:

gigem: would you prefer I submit a ticket or just nudge you in the future?

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gigem:

Sure. Than I can't claim I forgot about it. :)

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stichnot:

natanojl: I'm no expert on dvdnav, tracks, etc., but your patch for #9429 seems reasonable and seems to work on your LOTR sample. Do you want to just grab the ticket?

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9429 **

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stichnot:

I would commit it just to Master until sure that it doesn't break subtitle track mappings for other DVDs.

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tonsofpcs:

gigem: right, that's why I gave the offset :)

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tonsofpcs:

skd5aner: is it possible that the episodes it recorded were the same episodes as ones that were still existing in file-form but marked for deletion? (just thinking..)

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skd5aner:

nope – they were different episodes

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skd5aner:

sequential episode numbers even

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gigem:

tonsofpcs: There is something seriously wrong with your logs. There are sections that are missing. Those missing sections correspond to a period of particularly heavy logging. I suspect mythlogserver falls behind or some queues filled up and additional log entries get dropped until the backlog is worked off. Look in Scheduler::FillRecordList(). Your mythbackend log contains the entries for

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gigem:

"BuildWorkList..." through "SchedNewRecords...", but then stops. It's the "SchedPreserveLiveTV..." part I really wanted to see and it's not there!

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gigem:

Beirdo: ^^^

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tonsofpcs:

gigem: interesting.

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tonsofpcs:

is there dates that are missing or just logging types?

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tonsofpcs:

(logging was set remotely while backend was running)

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gigem:

It's just log entries that are missing and why I pointed it out to Beirdo. Although after looking, Beirdo's big, zeromq, logging changes weren't in version 0.25. Can you run your backend in foregraound mode? Sending the logs to stdout and capturing that might not drop logs. Or you could also upgrade 0.25.

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dekarl:

is there a mechanism in ATSC/SCTE to put EIT data for one transport on another transport? (similar to EITother in DVB)

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wagnerrp:

has anyone gotten HTML5 video to work in mythbrowser?

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wagnerrp:

i'm looking through #11092, and i can get audio, but no video

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11092 **

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jheizer:

hmm, something messed with mythtranscode and HLS transcoding speeds between .25.3 and .26 I think. I don't think as many thread are being spooled up.

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jheizer:

Confirmed HTTPLiveStreamThreads is set to 5 and it looks like transcode.cpp is using it still.

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wagnerrp:

xris: you around?

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wagnerrp:

anyway, i'm looking at this HTML5 stuff for the youtube MNV grabber

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wagnerrp:

and the way MNV works, the grabber provides an HTML page for MNV to load, and the page defines how to access the player, as well as optional javascript controls

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wagnerrp:

in youtube's case, you load an iframe

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wagnerrp:

there is no control you can pass to the iframe to force HTML5, and the only way to manipulate it is from a PREF cookie on the youtube.com domain

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wagnerrp:

you set f2 to 40000000 in that cookie and it allows HTML5

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wagnerrp:

is there any way we can force that cookie on the wrong domain in the wrapper page, without violating security lockouts to prevent such cross-domain editing?

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xris:

wagnerrp: ?

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wagnerrp:

i think i should be able to add a script to the page that calls http://www.youtube.com/html5, POSTing enable_html5=true, and the response would automatically set the necessary cookie

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wagnerrp:

xris: just looking for an opinion on how to get around cross-site-scripting restrictions

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wagnerrp:

although would a script from the local backend actually be allowed to query an external domain?

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wagnerrp:

or would that still fall foul of CORS stuff?

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xris:

no wal around xss/cookie stuff

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xris:

there's no json-p option for youtube iframe control?

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clever:

wagnerrp: in the example you gave, you can bypass all security (that i know of) by using a real <form> with the correct elements, and just calling submit on it

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wagnerrp:

it's a POST, so it doesn't matter

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wagnerrp:

JSON-P only does GET

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wagnerrp:

clever: you can submit a form to a domain different from the page?

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clever:

wagnerrp: yeah

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clever:

your code has no way of getting the output, so its considered 'safe'

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clever:

its different then ajax calling up paypal.com and reading your credit-card numbers

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clever:

test

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clever:

dsl modem had crapped out, seems fine now

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wagnerrp:

so something like this? http://pastebin.com/SKxqHZym

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wagnerrp:

that wouldn't redirect the browser to http://www.youtube.com/html5?

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clever:

wagnerrp: yeah, that may work, but it will redirect the whole page

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wagnerrp:

yeah, that's the problem

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clever:

if you want to hide that redirect, an <iframe> containing that code can be used

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clever:

and set that to style="display:none"

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xris:

wagnerrp: yeah, or just put the whole form in an iframe and submit that way. you could probably create the iframe and form via js to only execute it when necessary

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stuartm:

https://developers.google.com/youtube/iframe_api_reference

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wagnerrp:

looks like google is blocking POST queries from outside domains

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stuartm:

specifically "since it allows YouTube to serve an HTML5 player rather than a Flash player"

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wagnerrp:

stuartm: yes, allows... not forces

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stuartm:

wagnerrp: use the official API?

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wagnerrp:

stuartm: their iframe checks a cookie to see if you have opted in to using html5

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wagnerrp:

you set the cookie at http://www.youtube.com/html5

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stuartm:

well that sucks, can't we force a mobile user agent instead?

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wagnerrp:

heh, because of course that's more proper than trying to bypass cross-site security restrictions... :P

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stuartm:

it's a lot easier :)

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clever:

wagnerrp: is the javascript running in webkit on the frontend?

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wagnerrp:

right now, i'm just testing it in firefox

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clever:

ah

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clever:

because if it ran in the frontend, you can just have some c++ code do the post to http://www.youtube.com/html5, with a fake referer

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clever:

only thing you need to do is use the same cookie store as the browser widget

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clever:

the c++ code doesnt have to obey the rules

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wagnerrp:

i'm trying to keep everything within the grabber if possible

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wagnerrp:

rather than have to make special allowances in the code

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wagnerrp:

well i'm done looking at it for a while, need food...

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stuartm:

yeah, but any solution that tries xss etc is going to break often as they fix the holes

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stuartm:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5845484/fo . . . outube-video

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jheizer:

Since we are talking myhtbrowser, what desktop browser dies it most closely relate to? Was trying to setup an internal page for viewing and was having some problems with some content displaying.

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stuartm:

jheizer: safari or maybe Konq are the closest relations

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jheizer:

K, thanks. Was going to guess Konqueror was was not going to install all that on my frontend for this little test.

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jheizer:

(Viewing IP web cam feed in browser vs setting up all the mythzonminder stuff)

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stuartm:

probably closer to safari these days, since webkit was forked from Konq and has seen a lot of contributions from Apple since

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jheizer:

Got ya. Worked around it. Instead of just doing <img src="mjpeg stream" I and grabbing each frame and refreshing via JS

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jheizer:

Works good enough for what I was trying to accomplish.

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stuartm:

wagnerrp: adding &html5=1 to the url works here

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jheizer:

Hmm, just tried a few here and it did not work. Still getting flash version.

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stuartm:

which browser?

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jheizer:

chrome

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jheizer:

on win7

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stuartm:

fwiw, it's only going to work for some videos anyway, user uploaded ones generally, anything that's not copy protected

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jheizer:

yeah why i was trying a few.

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stuartm:

e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQyO_ktt_S8&html5=1

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jheizer:

link to one that worked for you?

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jheizer:

Too slow. But got flash version.

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stuartm:

guess it doesn't work with chrome

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jheizer:

Worked in IE9 though

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clever:

stuartm: that one gives me html5 on chrome (linux)

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stuartm:

maybe chrome doesn't support html5, which would be ironic

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jheizer:

and worked on firefox

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jheizer:

weird

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jheizer:

maybe left the html5 mode before trying

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jheizer:

they are always showing me flash now

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jheizer:

*maybe because I left

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jheizer:

I set flash mode your example works. Eh, who knows.

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jheizer:

Hmm maybe my mythtranscode is running 5 threads, just not taking up but 250% cpu.

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wagnerrp:

yeah, it's giving me flash versions in firefox

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Thursday, January 17th, 2013

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stuartm:

strange

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stuartm:

works with Firefox and Opera here

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stuartm:

but not mythbrowser :( So they are still checking user agent and offering up flash to those versions of browsers which aren't listed on their 'supports html5' list

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stuartm:

makes me wonder if setting that cookie would work then

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wagnerrp:

no, they actually do check for support properly

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wagnerrp:

you can get html5 to work in mythbrowser on youtube

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wagnerrp:

the issue is just that the cookie only lasts for that instance of mythfrontend

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wagnerrp:

restart mythfrontend, and you lose the cookie

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jheizer_:

The &html5=1 did work here on my laptop on chrome on win8 weird that it did not downstairs on my desktop.

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stuartm:

wagnerrp: should have exactly the same effect as using &html5=1 though

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stichnot:

Who is the mythcommflag owner/expert?

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stuartm:

wagnerrp: doesn't work here, if I set the cookie then view the video above I still get flash

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wagnerrp:

in mythbrowser?

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stuartm:

yeah

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stichnot:

I guess the answer is Captain_Murdoch .

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stuartm:

I get the HTML5 without the cookie in Firefox/Opera, but with or without the cookie (or the GET arg which should do the same thing) I get flash with mythbrowser

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stuartm:

stichnot: yeah right now it's CM

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stuartm:

wagnerrp: QT Version : 4.8.2

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wagnerrp:

i'm on 4.8.something

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wagnerrp:

don't know what off hand

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stuartm:

qtwebkit is 2.2.2

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stuartm:

I'm getting the wrong colours with flash through mythbrowser too :) Smurphtastic

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stichnot:

Captain_Murdoch: in CommDetector2::go(), there is a comment "Save total duration only on the last pass, which hopefully does no skipping." I'm debugging something on the -users list where something is computing the wrong duration (always ~320 seconds), and this part of mythcommflag is the only place where I can see that happening. Any idea how mythcommflag jobs might be configured to bring...

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stichnot:

...this about?

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stichnot:

Captain_Murdoch: I'm looking at TemplateFinder::TemplateFinder() which seems to want to take 300 samples regardless of the recording length. That would work out to 10 seconds of a 30fps recording. Do 32 of those for whatever reason and you get 320 seconds.

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danielk22:

dekarl: ATSC supports EIt in one transport for another transport, but I don't know of any actual broadcasters using anymore.

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danielk22:

dekarl: With SCTE it is the norm for one, or a few, transports to carry the entire EIT. But we don't support SCTE EIT so it's not really an issue ATM.

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danielk22:

stuartm: I wouldn't blame webkit for the flash colors. Flash doesn't do well with video acceleration enabled. Disable that in your flash settings and the colors will look good again.

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tonsofpcs:

danielk22: I believe that some co-owneds carry joint EIT in both TSs but that would be in both so it wouldn't be an issue

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tonsofpcs:

(it's helpful for converter box users who can only see the EIT and ETT from the current TS as it lets them browse between the two)

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tonsofpcs:

gigem: well, I tried upgrading to 0.26 when first installed (it's a mythbuntu install and 0.26 mythbuntu build wasn't out yet) and it failed horribly so I rolled back. As for foregrounding the backend... mythbackend > ~/forgigem.log enough or do I need to pipe stderr ( mythbackend 2>&1 > ~/forgigem.log ) too?

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tonsofpcs:

and do I need to add some command line options to make it give you all the detail you want in stdout/stderr?

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tonsofpcs:

dekarl: short answer: Yes. Long answer: meh. (see comments to/from danielk22 above)

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wagnerrp:

danielk22: no no no, you misunderstand... he was saying someone needed to write a patch to fix the bug

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wagnerrp:

:)

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gigem:

tonsofpcs: I usually use tee so I can see the output too. For 0.25, you only need the info level (0.26 and later currently need debug). So do something like this: mythbackend -v schedule,general --loglevel info |& tee mythbackend.log .

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tonsofpcs:

|& ?

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