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Friday, April 13th, 2012, 00:14 UTC
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[00:18:09] Beirdo: taylorr: I have a note to look at adding a --logsplitpid at your request. Do you recall the details?
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[01:27:27] jya: danielk22: in reference to the XVideo code… I know that ATI with OpenGL is pretty much a lost cause. I can only ever get something when using XVideo. However, I've noticed with my ATI card, and also in VMWare after I just updated their video drivers, when using XVideo , the colours are all wrong. Faces are blue etc...
[01:39:01] jya: I see that this was just discussed earlier.. Only just caught up ..
[01:42:13] cerise4096: Ok — I've got something weird going on.
[01:42:18] cerise4096: I'll set mythtv up to record
[01:42:26] cerise4096: and the recording fails.
[01:42:34] cerise4096: I don't see anything telling me why it's failing though.
[01:42:48] cerise4096: It's not in mythbackend.log
[01:42:50] ** jya ^^ point at topic **
[01:43:17] cerise4096: Damn it.
[01:43:22] cerise4096: Why do I *ALWAYS* do that?
[01:43:27] cerise4096: sorry >_>
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[02:15:13] danielk22: jya: It should be fixable.
[02:15:54] jya: it's very bizarre, before I upgraded my VMWare drivers, it didn't do it.. playback there was just fine...
[02:16:02] jya: let me post a picture of what it looks like
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[02:18:48] danielk22: jya: the old ATI problem was that it advertised GUID_I420_PLANAR, but didn't actually support it. If you tried to use it the driver just gave you the implementation for GUID_YV12_PLANAR which has the U & V transposed.
[02:19:15] jya: http://i39.tinypic.com/15fqa6t.png
[02:19:20] jya: that's on VMWare
[02:19:47] jya: my machine does have an ATI video card, but this never made a difference before, under vmware it's always been fine
[02:20:53] danielk22: jya: That looks like the Y & U might be transposed. Maybe VMWare is passing through the native XVideo now and getting it's bugs.
[02:21:06] jya: could be...
[02:21:17] jya: ah there's a new version of vmware.. let me try that one
[02:22:39] jya: when boot this machine under linux and use the opensource ATI drivers, I do see the same effect. When using ATI proprietary drivers it's just non functional.. requiring restarting X
[02:23:50] danielk22: In videoout_xv.cpp, under "if (xv_chroma == GUID_YV12_PLANAR)" we swap the pointers for Y & U, try swapping if those if they aren't already swapped or don't swap them if we aren't now.
[02:24:44] danielk22: hmm, sorry that is incorrect.
[02:26:12] danielk22: I'll need the -v playback to see the list of formats available. Then I can either pick one that works or add the code to swap.
[02:26:35] danielk22: It's the "XVideo Format #%1 is '%2%3%4%5'" line that I'm looking for.
[02:27:36] jya: let me restart it
[02:29:02] jya: http://pastebin.com/CAnrMrnc
[02:29:54] danielk22: jya: On the OpenGL renderer question I did stress the renderer a bit by making sure the output resolution was less than 1920x1080 and playing 1080i60 material with a good deinterlacer. The version with color controls couldn't keep up at all but the version without just dropped some frames and had some overlay problems.
[02:30:30] danielk22: My laptop has an i5 so I don't think the processor was really an issue.
[02:30:31] jya: I would have just used vdpau on that chipset anyway...
[02:30:59] jya: that's the whole output, in case I had cut it a tad too much:
[02:31:00] jya: http://pastebin.com/kav9vqtS
[02:31:15] danielk22: jya: Sure, and that works well, I was just trying to ascertain whether I should maintain XVideo for another release.
[02:31:30] jya: danielk22: that's something I've always found interesting with the opengl based deinterlacer ; they often use more CPU than their pure software counterpart...
[02:31:43] jya: i don't know if it's to do with myth implementation, or just the way opengl is
[02:32:26] jya: danielk22: for the time being, I would think that keeping xvideo has more to do with being able to work around broken drivers, than the hardware capabilities
[02:33:16] jya: irrespective on the mythtv's opengl code, when I use the ATI proprietary drivers, I get full lockup. it doesn't matter if our code isn't perfect or buggy : those kind of behaviour should never occur
[02:33:33] danielk22: jya: It looks like the broken GUID_I420_PLANAR has been removed.. but I also see that the adaptor_name has changed, can you try adjusting the "Color" control by 50% ?
[02:34:26] danielk22: For "ATI Radeon Video Overlay" we apply a 50% shift, but this is "XA G3D Textured Video" so it isn't caught by that piece of code.
[02:34:57] jya: danielk22: where is the color adjustment ?
[02:35:19] danielk22: It's either "F" or "Ctrl-F"
[02:35:40] danielk22: It's also in the OSD menu somewhere
[02:35:47] jya: ok
[02:36:10] jya: colour is already at 50%
[02:37:14] jya: ah hue was at 0
[02:37:22] jya: setting it to 50% and it's all fine now
[02:38:24] danielk22: Ok, that's easy to fix. Just FYI When I fix it for everyone else your colors will be off so you'll need to reverse the adjustment.
[02:38:45] jya: is it normal for it to be at 0% to start with?
[02:39:08] danielk22: That's the nvidia default, everyone else uses 50%
[02:39:47] danielk22: I need to fix the logic in VideoOutput::CalcHueBase() which has an nvidia bias.
[02:39:54] jya: I don't think I ever have a nvidia drivers on that machine or on a host for that VM
[02:40:19] danielk22: jya: yeah, the bias is built into the code, if it doesn't know the adaptor it assumes nvidia..
[02:40:36] jya: i see.. need to find a place where to document that feature
[02:40:49] jya: a lot of "my colours are wrong
[02:40:52] jya: comments lately
[02:41:25] jya: and for me it only started recently
[02:42:19] danielk22: jya: The 'started recently' is the perplexing part. There was another report a few hours back with an Intel video chipset.
[02:43:14] jya: A couple of days ago upgraded my VM to Ubuntu 12.04 ; then I upgraded the VMWare tools
[02:43:37] jya: it's from that point that all turned blue
[02:44:18] jya: I am also seeing this when booting native ubuntu 11.10 and opensource ATI drivers ; I wouldn't be surprised the problem is the same.. Going to reboot under linux and try out
[02:44:59] jya: Im fairly convinced it will fix it there only.. I had never played with the picture settings
[02:45:00] skd5aner: jya: were you aready running 0.25?
[02:45:08] jya: skd5aner: yes
[02:45:12] skd5aner: or was this immediately following an update... ok
[02:45:14] skd5aner: weird
[02:45:14] jya: well, RC
[02:45:42] taylorr: Beirdo: sorry, I don't remember
[02:46:04] jya: taylorr: you're back !! :)
[02:46:07] skd5aner: jya: just trying to narrow down if the impact was related to you updating/upgrading or explicitely, in your case, to the changes in vmware
[02:46:33] jya: skd5aner: I can't confirm, as both occured at the same time…
[02:47:03] skd5aner: heh – gotta love when that happens (which is ironic, because I came across you giving someone advice to not update their os and mythtv at the same time today on the mailing list) ;)
[02:47:05] jya: whenever I upgrade the kernel, I run the vmware tools update.
[02:47:16] jya: i didn't upgrade mythtv :)
[02:47:19] jya: only the OS
[02:47:26] ** taylorr runs away **
[02:47:49] jya: and the OS is fundamentally bound to the vmware tools (video drivers, network, sharing folders etc..)
[02:48:01] skd5aner: well – anyway – your impact seems the same, but weird how it did't exhibit it earlier for you...
[02:48:17] jya: could be something different in 12.04
[02:48:21] jya: was running 10.04 before
[02:48:38] jya: I'm better off trying to upgrade a VM before doing so with my primary machines
[02:48:48] jya: and lucky I did , my system didn't boot after that
[02:48:51] skd5aner: I was under the assumption that 2 things were possibly happening... 1) A user had previously used picture controls before, changed things, then turned it off – then when the setting as removed and defaulted to on, it pulled their old settings causing picture issues...
[02:49:40] jya: skd5aner: the mythtv I run on that machine is my development copy. it's straight of git master
[02:49:58] taylorr: Beirdo: the only two things I remember ranting about was not having the ability for external channel changers to print to the logfile and having --logfile back that sent all the logging to a single file like it used to be
[02:49:59] jya: and there has been no change of settings of any kind.
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[02:50:11] skd5aner: and/or 2) screwed up drivers that didn't exhibit the behavior in 0.24 because picture controls were disabled, but now that they're enabled, the default settings even appear screwed up
[02:50:23] jya: that could be
[02:50:46] jya: I could always re-install a 10.04 VM and try out. Unfortunately, I didn't do a snapshot before upgrading this VM
[02:51:10] skd5aner: the fact that your hue was not set to 50% makes me originally think the first one, but you said you were already running a 0.25 release client, so I would assume it would have exhibited it already for you...
[02:51:21] skd5aner: so, maybe it's a combination of 1 and 2 (or something else entirely?)
[02:51:42] skd5aner: either way – good to have another victim, er... test subject ;)
[02:51:51] jya: oh… I do remember doing something that could have had an impact now...
[02:52:11] jya: I remember playing with the database and deleting all settings related to that machine (and all VM running on it)
[02:52:17] skd5aner: If you're curious, you could read the backlog in her and -users from the past 8 hours... did some troubleshooting with anykey_ and a few others
[02:52:33] jya: like: delete from settings where hostname='jyaimac';
[02:52:36] skd5aner: s/her/here
[02:52:51] jya: and what was the outcome?
[02:53:43] ** jya can't reboot that machine into linux for another 3–4 hours… hard disk deep scan in progress **
[02:54:05] skd5aner: well, that if you re-enable the setting that was removed so that you can disable picture controls, then it returned to normal for him
[02:54:25] skd5aner: and, in his case, all of his picturecontrols were set to 50%
[02:54:41] skd5aner: (unlike yours where the hue was something else)
[02:54:54] jya: skd5aner: would be better off making him change the appropriate picture control to the right value than disabling it completely no ?
[02:55:12] jya: especially as that change is persistent
[02:55:16] skd5aner: that said, another user came in where his picture controls were not set to 50%, and resetting them to 50% fixed his problem... so that's why I think it's two distinct issues both caused by the change of removing that setting
[02:55:27] jya: that way we can find out what the default settings should be
[02:55:41] skd5aner: jya: in the case where the defaults (50% across the board) are correct – yes...
[02:55:54] skd5aner: (the first case)
[02:55:59] jya: if nvidia set 0, else set 50 :)
[02:56:43] skd5aner: but in the second case, he had to chose weird settings, like 35% for one, and not-50 for others... and at that case, it was "best guess" to get something that looked half-way normal – in otherwords, something completely arbitrary, not neutral
[02:56:49] Beirdo: taylorr: Hmm, OK, thanks. I'll search the logs and see if I can get more details :)
[02:57:28] skd5aner: btw – the two people I was working with, one was on intel (case 1) and one was on ATI (case 2)
[02:58:02] skd5aner: both were using xv-blit renderers I believe
[02:58:14] jya: I use the "Normal" playback profile
[02:58:17] skd5aner: anyway – I've really got to run, but wanted to give you as much of a head start as possible :)
[02:58:27] jya: OpenGL isn't hardware accelerated in VMWare fusion on Linux
[02:58:45] skd5aner: well, I think both were using OpenGL for their painters
[02:58:50] skd5aner: or, at least one was I know for sure
[02:58:54] jya: for painters yes
[02:59:03] skd5aner: so, menus looked normal, playback was what was messed up
[02:59:06] jya: actually it's auto
[02:59:15] skd5aner: jya: not be default...
[02:59:28] skd5aner: mine was set explicitely to opengl when I upgraded, but I switched it to auto
[02:59:32] jya: and in the log I see that it default to Qt. something about the opengl drivers not supporting some stuff
[03:00:30] skd5aner: I think new installs default to auto, and I think sphery had original made it so that it would always, but in the last few weeks (begrungingly) had to revert that comment if I'm not mistaken and not default existing installs to auto
[03:00:48] skd5aner: I could be mistaken/not remembering correctly
[03:01:01] skd5aner: but, at least in my case, upgrading to 0.25 did not set the painter to auto
[03:01:07] skd5aner: anyway – good night :)
[03:01:16] skd5aner: (or good morning in your case)
[03:05:30] Beirdo: oooh
[03:05:38] Beirdo: OK, this should be simple.
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[05:45:19] dekarl: btw, can we get historic data out of Smolt to show adoption rates of 0.25 over time? (or adoption rate of Mythbuntu 12.04 LTS)
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[06:29:58] wagnerrp: not at current
[06:30:15] wagnerrp: smolt only records the latest data set for a given profile id
[06:32:45] dekarl: hmm, quick workaround would be to collect the stats html page once per hour/day to stick it into a database later (as now would be a good starting point)
[06:33:36] dekarl: shall I start collecting the stats page locally with a cronjob?
[06:33:59] wagnerrp: better would be to modify the server with a new table that contains a historical subset of the data
[06:34:29] wagnerrp: likely not any more difficult either
[06:34:51] dekarl: I totally agree, but I have never looked into smolt deeper than the stats page :)
[06:34:52] wagnerrp: (aside from that small requirement of shell access :))
[06:42:27] wagnerrp: dekarl, jams: looks like theres this mythtv_historical table, storing a handful of counters persistently
[06:42:42] wagnerrp: we could add OS and mythtv version to that
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[06:42:58] wagnerrp: however it appears that bit has been disabled, and hasnt been updated in a week
[06:43:20] dekarl: ahh, so we can generate adoption rate as any new system is 0.25+ ;) (doh)
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[06:43:49] dekarl: got to leave for work
[06:43:55] wagnerrp: well there is that, smolt will only exist on 0.25 and forward
[06:44:06] wagnerrp: got to go to sleep
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[11:40:45] stuartm: Beirdo: thanks for the email change
[11:41:32] stuartm: is the trac hook templated? It would be nice to get the branch name in there (I can do it if you point me in the right direction)
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[12:58:13] danielk22: anykey_: jya: http://pastebin.com/LSNmDRJt <- patch for hue adjustment, I can't apply just yet I need to get my trees in order before I can test patches again. Should be able to apply later today though.
[12:59:15] jya: how should I test it? I mean my settings is now set to 50…
[13:00:12] danielk22: jya: You have to reset your settings to, then you should be able to run without needing any hue tweak.
[13:00:41] danielk22: s/settings to/settings to defaults/
[13:00:46] jya: any hint on how to reset the settings? (I know how to delete "all" settings, but I'm hoping for something quicker)
[13:01:25] jya: I can also run the code on native linux rather than VMWare, maybe there's another setup there
[13:01:47] jya: actually, let me do just that...
[13:01:58] anykey_: danielk22: will try later when I get home, thanks
[13:03:16] danielk22: delete from settings where value="PlaybackHue";
[13:03:42] wagnerrp: stuartm: the mechanism for the trac hook is completely different from 0.11 and previous
[13:04:04] wagnerrp: im re-implementing their new internal hook for our altered needs
[13:07:00] anykey_: danielk22: is the intel card also in adjusted?
[13:07:18] anykey_: (I ask because I don't see it in the patch)
[13:07:25] stuartm: wagnerrp: k
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[13:16:37] danielk22: anykey_: I don't have the adaptor_name for it, but I've changed the default to 50 so it should work assuming it needs the same adjustment as the other cards.
[13:17:38] danielk22: The patch will output the adaptor_name when it isn't in the list..
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[13:25:15] wagnerrp: looks like our commit hooks are processed synchronously within the push now
[13:25:33] anykey_: danielk22: ok
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[13:34:44] stuartm: wagnerrp: yes they are, that's why a broken hook was causing push to 'hang' for danielk22
[13:35:40] jya: danielk22: Ok… I've finished the code I was debugging.. can now try your patch..
[13:35:46] stuartm: it's why the IRC hook is disabled
[13:35:52] jya: in the mean time if someone has an answer.. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10141526/a . . . rt-very-slow
[13:37:24] wagnerrp: stuartm: simple fix, why not just have the hook processor fork off and let the commit continue unhindered?
[13:38:57] stuartm: 1> /dev/beirdo
[13:40:11] wagnerrp: danielk22: want to close #10591 wont fix, since that whole thing is getting replaced by the web config?
[13:40:11] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10591 **
[13:41:19] stuartm: wagnerrp: I almost did close it, but I figure we should wait until the alternative is actually written, since it might not happen (people get busy, plans change)
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[13:42:18] wagnerrp: actually, i thought you could edit those values directly, even though it was autofilled with a dropdown
[13:43:05] wagnerrp: however trying to check, i appear to have lost my desktop
[13:43:15] wagnerrp: opengl painter doing something bad to XMing
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[14:00:28] jya: torc for iOS video looks pretty cool… looking forward to getting it
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[14:03:37] jya: danielk22: your patch works on my VMWare Fusion VM
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[14:32:24] jya: danielk22: http://pastebin.com/fpYJwXc3 this is the output using an ATI 9700M video card, on ubuntu
[14:34:12] jya: I'm pleased to say that the colours are correct with your patch
[14:34:46] jya:
[14:36:15] jya: this is the output with your patch
[14:36:19] jya: http://pastebin.com/f59g7gBP
[14:38:03] jya: so for ATI, the XVideo adapter name is "Radeon Textured Video" . In your patch you had XA G3D Textured Videom but I'm pretty sure that's the VMWare adapter only
[14:41:49] jya: danielk22: I doubt your patch is actually correct. It fixes the hue on anything but nvidia simply by returning 50 all the time. On nvidia, where it used to return 0, now it also return 50, and the variable hue_adj that you set is not used anywyere
[14:42:20] jya: I think that return 50 should actually be return hue_adj
[14:46:45] danielk22: yep
[14:47:35] jya: here is my version of it:
[14:47:38] jya: http://pastebin.com/yWuU5e5D
[14:48:10] jya: let me try with ATI proprietary driver
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[14:58:30] jya: of course, restarting X with the new drivers, ended up with a black screen, followed by a kernel panic...
[14:58:39] jya: @#$@$ ATI
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[15:24:07] jya: danielk22: with the ATI proprietary driver, the XVideo identifier is "AMD Radeon AVIVO Video"
[15:25:21] danielk22: thx — I assume it still likes the same hue_adj?
[15:26:27] jya: yes...
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[15:26:36] skd5aner: jya: thanks for helping with this – since I can't easily replicate it on my end, I could only help troubleshoot and nail down what was going on via users reporting the behavior
[15:27:35] jya: danielk22: that makes the patch end up like this
[15:27:37] jya: http://pastebin.com/j48DHZ9V
[15:27:48] jya: wonder if we could just test if the adaptor name contains radeon
[15:28:31] jya: now I need to find out why with the proprietary driver, my dual-27" appears one screen okay, and the other all white
[15:28:43] danielk22: jya: that's exactly what I have atm.
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[15:30:14] jya: rebooting .. again.. be back in 30
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[15:33:47] jya: danielk22: allright, if you too are using ATI proprietary drivers, you start catalyst, and you select Display Manager -> Multi-Display desktop with display(s) 2
[15:34:21] jya: I had selected single display desktop (multi desktop), whatever that means, and that give me the white screen on one screen
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[15:36:49] jya: amazing.. OpenGL painter + OpenGL playback works with those drivers !
[15:37:02] jya: first time I've had success with video playback in years!
[15:37:37] jya: OpenGL painter + XVideo playback, I get playback working once, when I got back to the menu, screen is all black
[15:38:42] jya: slight tearing however
[15:42:03] jya: Hum... enabling in Catalyst "Tear-Free Desktop", playback is perfect now... may have to change my stance on ATI graphics
[15:43:17] jams: hehe thats amusing they have an option for "tear-free desktop"
[15:43:55] jya: from the short description, it forces "wait for vertical sync" to Always
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[15:45:54] sphery: jya: yeah, the "black screen after exiting playback when using OpenGL painter" is the ATI reason we switched from auto-selecting painter to Qt default
[15:47:03] jya: sphery: I only see this with the XVideo playback.. if you're all openGL, it's fine
[15:47:07] danielk22: jya: I have an ATI card, but I put it in a server because I couldn't take the tearing.
[15:47:51] sphery: well, unless we change from an Xv default to OpenGL video rendering, it still would affect all new users with ATI
[15:47:52] jya: danielk22: with this "tear-free desktop" checked in catalyst, it's great there...
[15:48:25] jya: right, let's try vaapi
[15:48:58] jya: sphery: do you know the vaapi dev package name in ubuntu by any chance
[15:49:04] sphery: jya: would also be interesting to know what happens when you set the variable and restart mythfrontend: export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1
[15:49:14] sphery: no, don't know anything about the vaapi stuff
[15:49:24] jya: sphery: should I go back to XVideo?
[15:49:26] sphery: just remember something about "splitted desktop", whatever that is
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[15:49:55] stuartm: gigem: I do like the UI behaviour of rsOtherShowing, I have plenty of duplicate channels – mostly HD vs SD, but also some regional channel variations which show the same programming 90% of the time – being able to see 'recording on another channel' is a lot more useful than all channels showing 'recording' – not least because sometimes it does mess up and record the same thing on two different channels at the same time (tiny difference in guide
[15:49:56] stuartm: data usually)
[15:49:59] sphery: just curious about how it reacts with different ones... chances are the always indirect would make performance too slow for video rendering, but I don't know for sure
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[15:51:29] stuartm: gigem: it's also good to know from the guide if it's recording on the HD channel or the SD channel – that information can be found through Upcoming/Scheduled Recordings but if you're already in the guide having to switch screens would be annoying
[15:51:40] sphery: that was the old workaround for some of the ati issues... (however, it's not useful with the auto-selection of painter--because it just forces Qt painter, since it's not direct renderering, so was no different than users setting the painter to qt)
[15:51:53] jya: sphery: it's not good with export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1. Using Arclight theme, I see the background image only, when i move the cursor, I see the menu entries for a split second before it all disappear again
[15:52:36] sphery: hehe, interesting
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[15:54:51] jya: what does LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT supposed to do?
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[15:55:43] sphery: changes how the driver does GL--so it's using more software rendering stuff
[15:56:31] jya: is vaapi intel only or that works on ATI?
[15:57:21] sphery: there's an ati backend, too
[15:57:59] danielk22: Based on the name I would have guessed that it treats the local card as remote one. AFAIK Only SGIs and new nVidia drivers support sending OpenGL commands over the wire but most OpenGL implementations are local only.
[15:59:18] jya: hum... there's a xvba-va-driver package for ubuntu , but that would write the old ATI drivers back, which is crap
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[16:01:48] sphery: yeah, I think I should say that commands are sent through GLX protocol to X server and lets the server do drawing versus going direct to the hardware
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[16:12:16] skd5aner: jya: not that it impacts you on ATI, but the problem wasn't exhibited in VDPAU either as far as I could tell
[16:14:40] jya: skd5aner: all my actual frontends are nvidia, never had a playback problem with those, I use vdpau with all of them... Only ATI until today was close to impossible to use... Last drivers are dated from 2 weeks ago only...
[16:15:22] jya: well, I've started an upgrade to ubuntu 12.04, that will allow me to try vaapi (development files on 11.10 are 0.30 only, and myth configure wants 0.31)
[16:16:40] jya: hopefully, it's not going to kill my grub like last time
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[16:21:11] sphery: skd5aner: yeah, the playback picture controls are an Xv-only thing
[16:21:37] jya: me 2:20AM, off to bed
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[16:22:18] skd5aner: sphery: yea
[16:22:32] sphery: skd5aner: and, btw, thanks for noticing the always-on picture controls thing--I had forgotten about that change
[16:23:03] sphery: I like the approach danielk22 is taking--to just use the Intel/ATI values for anything that's not nvidia (rather than vice versa)
[16:23:05] skd5aner: np – I knew that something had to be up related to that
[16:29:45] gigem: stuartm: that's why i asked. i'll count you in the keep rsOtherShowing camp. in that case, i would very much like to change the uistate for rsOtherShowing/Tuning/Recording to match rsWillRecord/Tuning/Recording. that means you would need to look at the descriptive text to distinguish between activity on this channel versus another channel.
[16:55:35] Beirdo: gigem: I don't understand the differences enough to really comment on your proposed change. As long as the scheduler acts sanely (even if different from now), I'm good, I think.
[16:56:07] Beirdo: too much complexity in there that I haven't even attempted to sink my teeth into
[16:57:03] Beirdo: And on that note, better get my butt to the bus stop.
[17:01:44] gigem: Beirdo: this change doesn't affect the scheduler at all. the rsOther* recording statuses are only used outside of the scheduler for display purposes.
[17:13:32] stuartm: stichnot: sorry, I either missed your earlier requests or was distracted by getting things ready for 0.25, I'll review the patches and get back to you tomorrow if that's OK?
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[17:32:36] stichnot: stuartm: no problem, no rush, thanks for looking.
[17:35:33] Beirdo: gigem: K, even better then :)
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[17:37:02] stuartm: gigem: I'm not sure if that's much different from how it is now, although I really need to refresh my memory
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[17:57:30] anykey_: danielk22: Intel card seems to be unknown too: 'Intel(R) Video Overlay' is the name, the colors are broken
[17:58:10] danielk22: anykey_: if you set all the other values to 50% what value of hue makes things look best?
[17:59:38] anykey_: danielk22: I think something between 30–35%, can't really say
[18:00:11] anykey_: no, still too much green
[18:01:01] skd5aner: danielk22: yea, anykey_ was the other use case I was talkin about... where picture controls being "off" was the only way to get it back to a "neutral" look without guestimating at what the values should be
[18:01:03] danielk22: anykey_: I'll need to see that xvinfo right after reboot to see what the driver thinks is sane.
[18:01:04] anykey_: danielk22: I think it's not only hue that is wrong
[18:01:14] anykey_: danielk22: cold boot or reboot?
[18:01:26] skd5aner: reboot, but make sure mythtv doesn't launch
[18:01:35] anykey_: so start X without starting mythtv, give me a sec
[18:01:36] skd5aner: or, more precisely, mythfrontend
[18:01:44] danielk22: anykey_: cold to be sure; and yeah, don't start mythfrontend.
[18:01:47] skd5aner: well, AFTER a fresh reboot
[18:02:04] danielk22: anykey_: what kind of screen are you using? How is it connected?
[18:02:39] anykey_: danielk22: an LG 47LX9500 tv, connected to an Onkyo AV-receiver (TX806 I think), both times with HDMI
[18:03:52] sphery: could this be a studio colors issue?
[18:03:56] anykey_: danielk22: after cold boot: http://pastebin.com/GJ8FJMbc
[18:04:17] anykey_: sphery: it's gone, as soon as the picture controls are disabled, that's the only thing that I know
[18:04:44] sphery: yeah, if that's the case, it's probably not studio colors
[18:04:58] anykey_: and it worked in the exact same configuration with 0.24
[18:06:47] danielk22: anykey_: Can you create a an "Expert" picture mode with backlight:100%,Contrast:65%,Brightness:80% and all other values at 50%
[18:07:00] anykey_: danielk22: on the TV?
[18:07:25] anykey_: well probably, myth has no backlight ;)
[18:07:28] danielk22: yep
[18:09:37] anykey_: danielk22: still very oversatured colors, maybe I must say that the same problem is visible on another monitor too
[18:10:21] danielk22: ok, just wanted to make sure it wasn't the TV.
[18:11:17] anykey_: it is a bit better with these settings, but black is not black anymore ;)
[18:12:47] danielk22: anykey_: heh, yeah.. I have an LG TV and I don't use those defaults, but they do approximate studio color in day light pretty well.
[18:13:06] skd5aner: anykey_: the reason it "worked" in 0.24 is that you never used picture controls (it was disabled) – now it's enabled automatically in 0.25, but likely your driver is screwy with the default values. The solution would be to somehow auto-disable picture controls for you card and/or driver OR figure out the right settings and set them automatically
[18:13:22] anykey_: skd5aner: yeah, got that ;-)
[18:13:45] skd5aner: heh – sorry, sometimes I'm good at stating the obvious ;)
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[18:32:18] anykey_: danielk22: so, anything else I can provide you? Do you think you will have a fix ready soon or should I recompile with disabled picture controls again?
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[18:47:24] gigem: stuartm: any difference probably depends on the theme. in mythcenter, for example, if i press r in the epg or other places and the scheduler decides to use another channel, the text changes to "other showing", but the color doesn't change. the reason is the code currently treats rsOtherShowing as a "disabled" state. i propose to make rsOtherShowing have the "normal" state and rsOtherTuning and
[18:47:27] gigem: rsOtherRecording have the "running" state. i'm going to run the change over the weekend to make sure the stop recording hack doesn't have any bad side effects and won't commit anything until early next week. if anyone doesn't like the result, we can discuss it then. code-wise it's a fairly small and simple change, so it shouldn't be a problem to tweak or even revert.
[18:50:35] danielk22: anykey_: Thanks, it looks like the default values are all over the map as you had guessed. Since we only have an override for hue we'll just need to disable picture controls for this adapter for 0.25 at least.
[18:51:20] anykey_: danielk22: never used them anyway ;)
[18:56:46] sphery: anykey_: also, a camera snap of the picture might be useful (might help us recognize other problems)?
[18:57:22] sphery: (though danielk22 may have what he needs, already, so feel free to ignore me)
[18:57:55] anykey_: just let me know if you really need it and I'll get it ;)
[19:10:43] danielk22: anykey_: can you test this http://pastebin.com/iK4zwxyV ? It should disable setting the picture controls for the Intel adaptor
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[19:13:23] anykey_: danielk22: just give me a few minutes
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[19:21:08] anykey_: danielk22: wrong adaptor name there
[19:21:34] anykey_: danielk22: it's the second one 'Intel(R) Video Overlay'
[19:22:07] danielk22: anykey_: can you modify and retest?
[19:22:17] anykey_: danielk22: yeah, already compiling
[19:22:25] danielk22: thx
[19:28:15] anykey_: danielk22: works
[19:29:38] danielk22: great, i'll commit shortly.
[19:30:12] anykey_: I noticed another bug right now, using the Arclight theme the 'Please wait' box initially has about the right size, but as soon as I play a recording in the media library it is incredibly small and it stays like that then (also for live tv)
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[19:36:54] anykey_: it seems to depend on the resolution the previous file had
[19:37:45] danielk22: anykey_: is the OSD also the wrong size or just this image?
[19:39:26] anykey_: danielk22: the OSD size seems to depend on the resolution too
[19:40:08] danielk22: Sounds like it isn't getting reset properly.
[19:41:10] danielk22: I don't have time to look at that right now, but if you open a ticket I'll try to look at it the week after next.
[19:41:19] anykey_: ok
[19:42:47] Beirdo: danielk22: BTW, the ffmpeg sync is ready for your perusal with the mpegts-mythtv.c split off for us to hack at our hearts' content.
[19:43:07] danielk22: Beirdo: thx
[19:43:50] Beirdo: will make future syncs that much simpler :)
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[20:52:42] taylorr: danielk22: is 65525 a typo at http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . lchannel.cpp line 1016?
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[21:05:23] danielk22: yes.. I thought I already fixed that!
[21:05:59] danielk22: I actually tossed a commit fixing that the other day. I must have read the diff backward.
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[21:08:10] danielk22: taylorr: Can you fix it? I'm tight on time right now. Getting ready for NAB.
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[21:12:45] trapicki: hi. After filing a bug in trac, is there something more to do, like reporting here or somewhere else?
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[21:13:38] danielk22: trapicki: Nope, we all get an e-mail when a ticket is opened in trac. Do check up on the ticket periodically though, we may have some questions.
[21:13:43] taylorr: danielk22: sure, when I get some time
[21:14:05] trapicki: left my mail adresse there, do I get change updates?
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[21:40:39] taylorr: danielk22: I also made some local changes to round to the nearest integer when calculating picture control values – it was just doing an int cast and dropping the fraction... should I apply those changes?
[21:53:03] danielk22: *shrug* Up to you. It won't make any difference, we're only allowing 100 discrete values and the underlying controls allow 1024 to 65535 values.
[21:53:44] danielk22: I'd say go with what makes the code more readable.
[22:15:03] stuartm: the obvious solution to http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10573#comment:2 is to just stop trying to build with --disable-amd3dnow, of course being a Gentoo user he probably won't like that
[22:16:33] Beirdo: yeah, pretty much
[22:16:55] Beirdo: it's like telling the doctor it hurts when you poke yourself in the eye...
[22:17:11] Beirdo: the obvious response being... stop poking yourself in the eye!
[22:19:39] stuartm: you know, that's a great idea for a new ticket resolution – 'resolution: => Stop poking yourself in the eye'
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[22:32:58] gigem: sphery, Captain_Murdoch: i've been meaning to bring up that i don't see Steppes in the theme chooser either.
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[22:49:48] sphery: gigem: I know Captain_Murdoch uploaded the Steppes themes, yesterday ( http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/3/2012-04-12 ). Perhaps the 4:40UTC cron job didn't work so the index didn't get updated?
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[23:31:38] taylorr: danielk22: I leave the rounding alone then
[23:32:29] taylorr: does any one know if the higher backend cpu usage that some were reporting was ever fixed?
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[23:41:41] stichnot: taylorr: if you're referring to #10414 , then it was supposedly fixed.
[23:41:41] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10414 **

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