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| [02:09:01] | frontrange: | Having trouble with a Nvidia GeForce 5300 I have installed in my Dell Server. The adapter isn't showing up in the display configuration app under settings. All I see is the cheesy onboard video. lspci shows both adapters. I have installed the latest drivers, and I've run nvidia-xconfig. Any ideas? |
| [02:09:45] | wagnerrp: | heh... the "latest" drivers havent supported that card for like four years |
| [02:10:07] | wagnerrp: | you need to get the ancient legacy drivers |
| [02:10:17] | wagnerrp: | like 73.x or 96.x |
| [02:10:56] | frontrange: | OK, thanks. I'll look for them. What would be a better card to go with? |
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| [02:11:32] | wagnerrp: | any better card would require a better motherboard |
| [02:11:43] | wagnerrp: | since everything is PCIe these days |
| [02:11:58] | wagnerrp: | you'll be hard pressed to find anything AGP |
| [02:12:04] | wagnerrp: | and even PCI cards are getting rare and expensive |
| [02:12:06] | frontrange: | This card is PCI-e, let me double check the card type |
| [02:12:25] | wagnerrp: | a FX 5300 is pre-PCIe |
| [02:13:18] | frontrange: | Sorry, that's what lspci reported, the card is a nVIDIA GeForce FX5200 128MB PCI-E |
| [02:13:54] | wagnerrp: | thats quite surprising, i was under the impression the 6000 series were the first that support PCIe |
| [02:14:04] | wagnerrp: | and even then, they werent actually PCIe cards |
| [02:14:17] | wagnerrp: | they were AGP cards with a PCIe->AGP bridge built in |
| [02:15:02] | frontrange: | It's a PCIe card, I went 5200 cause it seemed popular with Myth, and I just looked for a PCIe variant |
| [02:15:20] | wagnerrp: | in any case, the 8000 series should be a minimum |
| [02:15:33] | wagnerrp: | GT210s can generally be found fairly cheaply, and are adequate |
| [02:15:53] | wagnerrp: | if you need analog TV output, its going to be tough to find a card retail that will still do that |
| [02:16:03] | frontrange: | OK, back to fleabay. Thanks again! |
| [02:16:39] | wagnerrp: | on fleabay, your best bet is an old 8400/8600 or 9500/9600 |
| [02:16:52] | wagnerrp: | anything more powerful is just going to needlessly waste power |
| [02:17:05] | wagnerrp: | mythtv doesnt use all that much |
| [02:18:41] | frontrange: | OK, I'll search for one of those.. |
| [02:19:10] | wagnerrp: | if you can, get one with 512MB of memory |
| [02:19:26] | wagnerrp: | and generally anything GT200 or newer isnt going to have analog TV outputs |
| [02:19:32] | wagnerrp: | there were a few, but they were rare |
| [02:19:46] | wagnerrp: | just DVI, HDMI, and VGA |
| [02:19:57] | fafa88: | the root cause of my recording issue was a ARP timeout issue, the workaround is to ping the HDHR. So funny it makes me want to cry. |
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| [02:20:47] | wagnerrp: | i never did understand that about linux |
| [02:21:01] | wagnerrp: | freebsd sucks up any and every ARP packet it sees on the network |
| [02:21:05] | fafa88: | i opened a ticket with silicon dust, however, I think it came with a kernel update. |
| [02:21:12] | wagnerrp: | linux only seems to care about those machines it actually wants to talk to |
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| [02:21:56] | wagnerrp: | my bsd machines always have a much better populated table than my linux ones |
| [02:22:23] | fafa88: | i doubt silicon dust will respond though, someone else open up a ticket with silicon dust a month before me. |
| [02:23:17] | fafa88: | I think the fallout will be high once people start moving to a later linux distro (fedora 17 & ubuntu 12.04). |
| [02:23:55] | ** tgm4883 uses an HDHR prime with 12.04 ** | |
| [02:27:34] | fafa88: | The odd thing is every was working fine until 2 weeks back, I think I did a yum update and pulled down a new kernel, but unsure at this point. |
| [02:29:03] | fafa88: | wow, silicondust responded with they are aware of the issue... |
| [02:29:11] | fafa88: | they want more debugging info. |
| [02:36:11] | frontrange: | wagnerrp, All those cards seem to be dual slot. Can you pint me towards a single slot card? This is going in a 1U server (Dell 1950) |
| [02:36:33] | frontrange: | Uh, meant point me |
| [02:36:57] | wagnerrp: | all five of those cards i mentioned are available in single-slot format |
| [02:37:02] | wagnerrp: | this is a dedicated backend? |
| [02:37:48] | frontrange: | Mostly a backend, but it's in my shop and I'll run a front end on occasion, SD only. |
| [02:45:48] | frontrange: | Looks like the NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT (512P3N954TR) is a single slot, that one ok? |
| [02:46:16] | wagnerrp: | should be fine |
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| [04:13:37] | Twiggy2cents: | My HVR-850 is no longer getting a lock but both of my tv wonder sticks are. They are all the same input and I have tried a different cable. Any idea on fixing it? When it tries to lock it bounces around -2.4DB and different numbers in BE. |
| [04:15:45] | Twiggy2cents: | Hang on I have to restart |
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| [04:42:58] | Beirdo: | blargh |
| [04:43:16] | Beirdo: | whoever wrote these wishbone cores are on crack |
| [04:43:50] | Beirdo: | what part of "data must be stable before rising edge of clock" means... change data immediately after the clock rises? |
| [04:44:24] | wagnerrp: | sounds good to me |
| [04:44:34] | wagnerrp: | it was stable before, they changed it afte |
| [04:44:35] | wagnerrp: | r |
| [04:44:43] | Beirdo: | no wonder XST is messing with me |
| [04:45:09] | Beirdo: | no, as on the other end of the bus, the slave is supposed to latch in on rising clock |
| [04:45:30] | ** wagnerrp doesnt write hardware for a reason ** | |
| [04:45:49] | Beirdo: | so either I need to make the master change on falling edge and slave read on rising edge... or vice versa |
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| [04:47:19] | wagnerrp: | i just use 'em, i dont know what makes 'em work |
| [04:47:25] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:47:45] | Beirdo: | I have a feeling I'll be redoing this fun. |
| [04:47:48] | ** wagnerrp needs to go watch donald sutherland be a tank commander a bit more ** | |
| [04:49:32] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:49:41] | Beirdo: | good Canadian acting |
| [04:50:35] | Beirdo: | and I made that chili WAY too hot |
| [04:50:54] | wagnerrp: | lazy acting maybe |
| [04:51:01] | wagnerrp: | theyre out in the middle of battle |
| [04:51:05] | wagnerrp: | tank is damaged |
| [04:51:17] | wagnerrp: | so he gets a bottle of wine, finds a lawn chair, and works on his tan |
| [04:52:15] | Beirdo: | love those endorphins... Mmm, chili. |
| [04:52:29] | Beirdo: | hehe, that sounds like a good part for him. Which movie? |
| [04:52:45] | wagnerrp: | kelly's heroes |
| [04:52:49] | Beirdo: | ahhh, yeah |
| [04:52:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | fafa88: I use two HDHR's with FC17... no issues that I've noticed... |
| [04:53:08] | wagnerrp: | hes a WWII hippie, in charge of a group of shermans |
| [04:53:53] | wagnerrp: | what are you doing?... drinking some wine, eating some cheese, catching some rays |
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| [04:54:09] | wagnerrp: | well why arent you in the tank?... oh, the tanks broken, they're back there trying to fix it |
| [04:54:16] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:54:31] | wagnerrp: | why arent you helping them?... oh, i just drive them, i dont know what make 'em work |
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| [05:08:01] | Beirdo: | yay, finally in 2012 on my Simpsons |
| [05:08:37] | Beirdo: | HEY, this isn't Simpsons. It's The Cleveland Show |
| [05:08:39] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [05:12:53] | fafa88: | J-e-f-f-A: Yeah, I am just unlucky, sucks to be me. |
| [05:13:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | fafa88: d'oh!!!!!!!! ;-) |
| [05:14:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | Beirdo: HA! I replied with "D'oh" without even seeing your comment! ;-) Hehehehehehehehe... |
| [05:15:34] | J-e-f-f-A: | fafa88: if it makes a difference, on FC17, here's the kernel I'm running: 3.4.4–3.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP |
| [05:15:34] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1 ** | |
| [05:18:58] | fafa88: | J-e-f-f-A: Yup, I am thinking it was the kernel update I pulled 2 weeks back. 3.5.2–3.fc17.i686 |
| [05:20:58] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [05:23:05] | wagnerrp: | why do people insist on arguing that recordings should be stored with metadata in the filename? |
| [05:23:17] | [R]: | so they can use other programs |
| [05:23:28] | kormoc: | run ls and see the data is there! |
| [05:24:05] | Beirdo: | you can use other programs regardless of filename |
| [05:24:08] | wagnerrp: | but when there is mythlink.pl, to dynamically link to the recordings in any and every syntax they want... |
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| [05:24:17] | [R]: | too much effort! |
| [05:24:24] | J-e-f-f-A: | Hehe, I was gonna reply to fafa88, but maybe he's downgrading to the same kernel I'm running. ;-) |
| [05:25:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | ... or the prior one that was working. ;-) I guess I'll resist updating for now. ;-) "If it ain't broke..." ;-) |
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| [05:26:03] | wagnerrp: | horescomin@hotmail.com ... somehow i dont see that as being a valued wiki user |
| [05:26:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: I dunno... I was using 'jeffa.nospam@comcast.com ' when I was on cumcast... and it was 'legal'. ;-) |
| [05:27:43] | wagnerrp: | well the fact that the IP shows up in spam blacklists tends to agree with my assessment... :P |
| [05:27:48] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fooled most [if not all?] of the spam collection filters too... I feel bad for the guy that had 'jeffa@comcast.com ' though – if anyone. ;-) |
| [05:28:21] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: hehehe.... in that case, I agree. ;-) |
| [05:29:16] | ** J-e-f-f-A has <something>.maillists@gmail registered now... works well to weed out spam for now... ** | |
| [05:30:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | since most of the spam 'collection' bots are "smart enough" to parse out "purposely obfuscated" stuff... I take advantage of that to let it change my 'real' address into an address that's not mine. ;-) |
| [05:33:26] | Beirdo: | very very poorly written spec. bleh |
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| [05:33:46] | Beirdo: | the timing diagrams seriously need work |
| [05:38:09] | Beirdo: | we woulda failed if we turned in crap like that in university |
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| [06:38:19] | firl: | anyone know how to force user jobs to run in sequence per recorded show? ( if you allow multiple jobs running at once ) |
| [06:38:46] | wagnerrp: | add them to the queue in the order you want them to run |
| [06:39:04] | wagnerrp: | the jobqueue just takes the first one off the top of the list |
| [06:39:13] | dj_segfault: | Can someone pastebin their mythweb.conf for me? I seem to have mucked mine up. |
| [06:39:48] | wagnerrp: | http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythweb/tree/mythweb.conf.apache |
| [06:40:18] | dj_segfault: | wagnerrp: Thanks |
| [06:40:47] | firl: | wagnerrp, if i have multiple backend servers it will process user job 1 and 2 for show X at the same time instead of waiting for 1 to finish before executing 2 |
| [06:41:31] | wagnerrp: | ok? |
| [06:42:03] | wagnerrp: | oh, youre saying you want to run user job 1 for show X, and once that is finished, run user job 2 for show X? |
| [06:42:33] | wagnerrp: | no way to do that |
| [06:42:43] | wagnerrp: | other than to lump both actions into user job 1 |
| [06:42:53] | wagnerrp: | or have user job 1 queue user job 2 when it finishes |
| [06:43:04] | firl: | tried that ( queuing from command line ) |
| [06:43:21] | firl: | but every time I would specify job 2 or 3 it would always schedule job 1 no matter lol |
| [06:43:28] | wagnerrp: | there is no way to queue jobs from the command line |
| [06:43:38] | wagnerrp: | actually.. there is |
| [06:43:48] | firl: | lol |
| [06:43:51] | firl: | there is |
| [06:43:52] | wagnerrp: | i forgot there were options in one of the executables for that... |
| [06:44:02] | firl: | yeah, didn't work out for me ( freebsd at least ) |
| [06:44:08] | wagnerrp: | is that mythutil? |
| [06:44:17] | firl: | ya |
| [06:46:03] | wagnerrp: | heh... |
| [06:46:27] | wagnerrp: | http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . tils.cpp#n30 |
| [06:47:04] | firl: | lol |
| [06:47:06] | firl: | makes sense then |
| [06:47:32] | firl: | not going crazy |
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| [06:47:57] | firl: | probably a cut and paste programming error hah |
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| [06:54:10] | wagnerrp: | well the patch is in whenever you next update |
| [06:54:25] | ** wagnerrp 's work here is done, so he's going to bed ** | |
| [06:54:31] | firl: | don't know when freebsd updates it's ports, i might grab from source |
| [06:54:34] | firl: | thanks for the patch |
| [06:54:38] | firl: | i will try this weekend |
| [06:54:49] | wagnerrp: | well, its easy enough to do it yourself |
| [06:54:53] | firl: | ya |
| [06:55:14] | firl: | yeah I just never looked because i thought there might be an option to force synchronous for a show |
| [06:55:28] | wagnerrp: | cd /usr/ports/multimedia/mythtv; make configure |
| [06:55:43] | wagnerrp: | then just patch the fix in manually in the work directory, and continue the build/install/clean |
| [06:55:54] | firl: | ya |
| [06:56:17] | firl: | thanks again |
| [06:56:56] | wagnerrp: | nope... ive got plans to allow new user jobs to be built out of "chains" of other jobs, for specifically that reason |
| [06:57:02] | wagnerrp: | but there is no such capability at this time |
| [06:58:00] | firl: | it would be nice because I have other backends that can only do certain types of jobs |
| [06:58:20] | firl: | but I will just have mythutil queue after each job finishes |
| [06:58:50] | wagnerrp: | are these just bash scripts, or something more elaborate? |
| [06:59:03] | firl: | bash, python, and perl |
| [06:59:21] | firl: | one to remove commercials, one to x264, one to myth librarian into plex for my idevices |
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| [07:00:50] | wagnerrp: | i was thinking of something you could to more intelligently... but there's no way to get the timing down right for that to work |
| [07:01:00] | firl: | what was that? |
| [07:01:05] | firl: | I do backend development for a living |
| [07:01:28] | wagnerrp: | queue up both jobs, and have the first put the second job into standby immediately upon start |
| [07:01:37] | wagnerrp: | when it finishes, put it back in the queue |
| [07:01:52] | firl: | ah so it keeps sequence so they aren't out of sync in the job queue? |
| [07:02:06] | wagnerrp: | basically, change from job state 1 (QUEUED) to job state 0 (UNKNOWN) |
| [07:02:13] | firl: | i gotcha |
| [07:02:16] | wagnerrp: | so the jobqueue doesnt try to run the second job |
| [07:02:45] | wagnerrp: | but theres no way to guarantee the first job would be run first to pull that off |
| [07:03:11] | wagnerrp: | and no proper way to terminate the second job if it gets run first accidentally |
| [07:03:16] | firl: | yeah I hear ya |
| [07:03:27] | wagnerrp: | or added to the queue after the first has performed the check |
| [07:03:28] | firl: | race condition and all |
| [07:04:11] | firl: | I was considering just collapsing all of the jobs into 1 feature set, instead of 3 separate |
| [07:04:43] | wagnerrp: | you may want to look into the HLS server for your iOS devices |
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| [07:05:25] | wagnerrp: | built in just-in-time transcoder, and HLS streaming to mobile devices that support it |
| [07:05:32] | firl: | oh nice |
| [07:05:41] | wagnerrp: | added in 0.25, still a bit unrefined |
| [07:06:04] | wagnerrp: | the encoding options are hard coded, and pretty low for use over residential upload speeds |
| [07:06:11] | firl: | gotcha, I will have to check it out. The main reason is my mythbackend runs in a freebsd jail |
| [07:06:38] | firl: | so my plex points to the NAS and doesn't have to do just in time transcodin |
| [07:06:40] | wagnerrp: | you need to enable a couple special options when you compile, the port may not offer it |
| [07:06:52] | firl: | gotcha, I am all for enabling cool features |
| [07:07:12] | wagnerrp: | i know the HLS server does perform caching, but i dont know how long the lifetime is |
| [07:07:23] | wagnerrp: | and there is no mechanism to pre-encode for it |
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| [07:16:33] | firl: | http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . tils.cpp#n30 |
| [07:16:42] | firl: | btw line 36 is wrong still |
| [07:16:50] | firl: | just sayin |
| [07:20:07] | dj_segfault: | Hi. Long shot, but here it goes: I have mythtv-backend/mythweb running on an internal box 10.1.10.150. I want to be able to get to it from the outside by setting up a reverse proxy on www.geekwith.me. I think I have it set up right, but If I go to http://10.1.10.150 it correctly redirects to http://10.1.10.150/mythweb/ but if I go to http://www.geekwith.me it redirects to http://10.1.10.150/mythwebmythweb/ |
| [07:21:27] | firl: | 75.149.142.17 is what it resolves to for me |
| [07:22:05] | dj_segfault: | That's geekwith.me (one of mydomain names that points to that static ip. |
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| [07:23:07] | firl: | so how do you expect to reach it from the outside? |
| [07:24:38] | dj_segfault: | I have a reverse proxy on www.geekwith.me from / to http://10.1.10.150/ |
| [07:28:02] | firl: | in your config you probably have an extra mythweb somewhere |
| [07:28:29] | dj_segfault: | I've been working with the folks on #httpd on this problem with the following pastebin http://pastebin.com/NP2gQ2b0# |
| [07:29:52] | firl: | isn't the proper fix, but you could probably have your inside mythweb listen on mythwebmythweb |
| [07:29:58] | firl: | and then be done with it |
| [07:30:34] | lautriv: | dj_segfault, you know that 10.1.10.150 can't be reached via internet ? |
| [07:30:55] | dj_segfault: | lautriv: Yes, that's what the reverse proxy is for |
| [07:32:54] | dj_segfault: | I asked earlier for a clean copy of mythweb.conf. The differences I have (besides the db params) are '<Directory "/var/www/html/data">' is now '<Directory "/var/www/mythweb/data">' and '<Directory "/var/www/html" >' is now '<Directory "/var/www/mythweb" >'. That's because on Ubuntu the document root is /var/www, with a symlink 'mythweb -> /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb' |
| [07:34:11] | dj_segfault: | Unfortunately this problem isn't squarely in #http or #mythtv-users, but I feel the main problem now is the redirection, so I would try here. |
| [07:34:35] | dj_segfault: | I really mean rewriting when I say redirection. Sorry. |
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| [07:40:19] | lautriv: | dj_segfault, regardless of the root of your mythweb, you should use a hostname instead IP. |
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| [07:42:36] | dj_segfault: | lautriv: Why? Nobody outside can get to that machine. If I add the 10. address to /etc/hosts on the geekwith.me box I could then put in a domain name instead of IP address, but why do you think that will make a difference? |
| [07:43:23] | lautriv: | dj_segfault, you go to geekwith.me from the web, no ? |
| [07:44:01] | dj_segfault: | Yes |
| [07:45:14] | lautriv: | dj_segfault, pointing to http://10.1.10.150 will fail |
| [07:48:29] | dj_segfault: | lautriv: I think you're missing the reverse proxy I've mentioned a couple of times. geekwith.me does not have mythtv on it. 10.1.10.150 does. However, geekwith.me has a reverse proxy configuration that will, when I get it working, take requests for geekwith.me, forward the requests on to 10.1.10.150, and send the results it gets back to the user. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_proxy |
| [07:50:23] | lautriv: | dj_segfault, we are talking about different things .... what is the resulting external url ? |
| [07:52:54] | dj_segfault: | In a perfect world I will type in http://www.geekwith.me and the reverse proxy will forward it to http://10.1.10.150, which will get rewritten in mythweb.conf to http://10.1.10.150/mythweb. The results get sent back to the proxy, and then to the client. The end result is that http://www.geekwith.me is supposed to appear as http://10.1.10.150/mythweb, but is accessible outside my network. |
| [07:55:47] | lautriv: | dj_segfault, se that part i got wrong ( had just one coffee ). but i wonder why you don't use subdirs, maybe you will provider other content on geekwith.me. |
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| [07:56:16] | lautriv: | s/der/er |
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| [08:02:04] | dj_segfault: | lautriv: I would love to do that, but when I tried, the rewrite rules in mythweb.conf worked even _worse_ |
| [08:02:38] | dj_segfault: | And it just it 4:00am here, so I have the reverse problem and will have to sign off soon. |
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| [08:05:54] | lautriv: | dj_segfault, if you redirect / it would be easier and less resource-intensive to port-forward, this way you may use geekwith.me:99 -> 10.1.10.1.150:80 and leave the apache on the external side free/unused. |
| [08:07:23] | dj_segfault: | Port forwarding would be an acceptable solution. In truth I tried that fist by setting up my cablemodem to port forward another port to 80 on that box but the box never saw the traffic. Maybe I need to port forward on my main server somehow. |
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| [13:05:51] | sphery: | makoto: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Optimize_mythdb.pl + http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Period . . . the_Database (or you can use the MySQL utilities, with proper command-line options, to do the same, but optimize_mythdb.pl is by far the simplest approach since there are no options) |
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| [13:27:36] | fugg: | hello, i moved a card from a slave to a new master, there i have this in dmesg --> http://pastebin.com/WHP55Z4H and /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 exists. but setup reports "could not get cardinfo". what may i miss ? |
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| [13:28:47] | bergqvistjl: | I have a problem with Mythweb saying my video covers are missing. My covers are stored on an NFS folder, mounted as /mnt/coverart which is symlinked to /var/lib/mythtv/mythweb/data/video_covers |
| [13:29:00] | bergqvistjl: | and mythtv itself can write and view cover images fine |
| [13:29:05] | bergqvistjl: | but mythweb can't find them |
| [13:29:39] | bergqvistjl: | I have options to set the VideoArtworkDir in mythweb (2 of them) but i'm not sure which path to use, the symlinked video_covers one, or the raw /mnt/covers one |
| [13:30:01] | fugg: | bergqvistjl, had such thing before, check the XML for mythweb. |
| [13:30:02] | bergqvistjl: | I uploaded a cover through mythweb as a test, and that copied over correctly to the /mnt/coverart folder, but it's still not displaying the images in mythweb. |
| [13:30:11] | bergqvistjl: | how do you mean fugg? |
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| [13:31:18] | fugg: | bergqvistjl, when i had that issue, the config for mythweb did not match the links, found a difference in the xml.conf or what it was called. |
| [13:31:37] | bergqvistjl: | would that conf file be in /var/lib/mythtv/mythweb ? |
| [13:31:48] | fugg: | iirr yes |
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| [13:33:00] | bergqvistjl: | i have a mythweb.conf.apache, but that's only a sample one |
| [13:33:05] | bergqvistjl: | i can't see an xml conf anywhere |
| [13:34:11] | fugg: | bergqvistjl, lemme see if i can find mine again ... |
| [13:38:22] | bergqvistjl: | ok |
| [13:38:36] | fugg: | bergqvistjl, ah, that was config.xml and related to a frontend. |
| [13:39:05] | fugg: | it's about a year and my register is flaky ;) |
| [13:39:53] | bergqvistjl: | ok |
| [13:40:14] | bergqvistjl: | is there anything i can do? |
| [13:40:47] | fugg: | bergqvistjl, i'll see where you differ to my setup right now |
| [13:40:54] | bergqvistjl: | ok |
| [13:41:45] | fugg: | bergqvistjl, are you sure video_covers is correct ? i have coverart |
| [13:41:55] | bergqvistjl: | oh it could be coverart |
| [13:41:56] | bergqvistjl: | hang on |
| [13:43:22] | bergqvistjl: | no, that hasn't changed anything |
| [13:44:18] | fugg: | you actually changed the link ? |
| [13:44:56] | bergqvistjl: | yes |
| [13:45:23] | bergqvistjl: | whenever I upload a new cover image through mythweb, it uploads it to the correct place |
| [13:45:25] | bergqvistjl: | which is odd |
| [13:45:37] | bergqvistjl: | it's just not downloading it back so to speak |
| [13:46:00] | fugg: | ah, what distro ? |
| [13:46:37] | bergqvistjl: | Arch |
| [13:46:42] | bergqvistjl: | I've never had this problem before |
| [13:47:14] | fugg: | but mythweb runs not as mythtv user, ls -al that cover |
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| [13:48:11] | fugg: | anyone on my failing card-detection ? |
| [13:49:13] | bergqvistjl: | ok |
| [13:51:05] | bergqvistjl: | well the cover i uploaded through mythweb is owned by http |
| [13:51:14] | bergqvistjl: | but it's still saying missing cover |
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| [13:55:03] | bergqvistjl: | so odd. |
| [13:57:26] | fugg: | bergqvistjl, owned by http but at least +r for others on files ? ( and +x on all dirs in the path ) |
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| [13:58:34] | bergqvistjl: | that's the directory for video covers: lrwxrwxrwx 1 http http 14 Sep 3 22:01 video_covers -> /mnt/coverart/ |
| [13:59:09] | bergqvistjl: | and these are the 3 video artworks in question: |
| [13:59:20] | bergqvistjl: | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv users 335730 Sep 5 14:12 1685_coverart.jpg |
| [13:59:24] | bergqvistjl: | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv users 335730 Sep 5 14:12 1685_coverart.jpg -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv users 366547 Sep 5 14:11 17244_coverart.jpg |
| [13:59:25] | bergqvistjl: | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv users 615804 Sep 5 14:12 871_coverart.jpg |
| [13:59:33] | bergqvistjl: | 4 video artworks |
| [13:59:36] | bergqvistjl: | * 3 |
| [13:59:48] | fugg: | bergqvistjl, that's the link but what gives /mnt/coverart ? |
| [14:00:15] | bergqvistjl: | that's the nfs share where my coverart is stored |
| [14:00:35] | bergqvistjl: | that is set to: drwxrwxrwx 2 65534 65534 4096 Sep 5 14:58 coverart |
| [14:00:46] | fugg: | bergqvistjl, do you no_all_squash on the mount ? |
| [14:01:06] | bergqvistjl: | not sure, that's all set up by my NAS drive |
| [14:01:08] | bergqvistjl: | why? |
| [14:01:44] | fugg: | because NFS without that option will claim any user to nobody:nogroup |
| [14:01:52] | bergqvistjl: | ok |
| [14:01:53] | bergqvistjl: | hang on |
| [14:01:54] | bergqvistjl: | i'll try and change it |
| [14:03:09] | bergqvistjl: | this is how my coverart share is configured on my NAS in /etc/exports |
| [14:03:10] | bergqvistjl: | "/Coverart" *(insecure,insecure_locks,rw) |
| [14:03:37] | bergqvistjl: | or do I have to put the no_all_squash on the FSTAB on my client? |
| [14:04:24] | bergqvistjl: | I should add, mythweb finds and plays the videos itself fine, and they're NFS'd in the same way |
| [14:04:24] | fugg: | bergqvistjl, append it to your export-options and exportfs -rv |
| [14:05:53] | bergqvistjl: | ok done, what now? |
| [14:05:56] | bergqvistjl: | restart the client? |
| [14:06:30] | fugg: | should work on the fly, otherwise restart client or umount/mount the nfs |
| [14:07:43] | bergqvistjl: | no, still says they're missing |
| [14:08:34] | bergqvistjl: | i'm sure it's just got the path wrong to display them. |
| [14:10:59] | fugg: | looks like. my myth-thingies are all owned by mythtv:mythtv |
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| [14:14:31] | bergqvistjl: | this is the error log i get from httpd when i view the videos page: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=p1FbbVUy |
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| [14:14:51] | bergqvistjl: | looks like an SQL permissions thing, but 192.168.0.2 is the server that the backend runs on anyway :S |
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| [14:19:49] | bergqvistjl: | fugg this is the error log i get from httpd when i view the videos page: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=p1FbbVUy |
| [14:21:34] | bergqvistjl: | seems odd cos mythweb can access everything else to do with my backend |
| [14:22:49] | fugg: | bergqvistjl, beside some warnings about code-problems, you have no access to the DB (mythconverg) |
| [14:23:07] | bergqvistjl: | so are those errors normal then? |
| [14:23:21] | bergqvistjl: | I don't understand it cos I can schedule recordings etc. etc. with mythweb perfectly fine |
| [14:24:16] | fugg: | bergqvistjl, there are mutiple locations where the pass is stored, i'll see if i find them ... |
| [14:24:31] | bergqvistjl: | ok |
| [14:25:11] | fugg: | the very first and obvious is /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [14:26:13] | wagnerrp: | note, that is going away in 0.26 |
| [14:27:21] | fugg: | hey wagnerrp ;) i have to go soon but maybe you have an idea about my card-setup above ? |
| [14:27:47] | bergqvistjl: | ah wait, i've solved it :D |
| [14:28:07] | bergqvistjl: | I just ran this in mysql: GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'mythtv' WITH GRANT OPTION FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| [14:28:22] | bergqvistjl: | but with localhost replaced by the 192.168.0.2 it was complaining about |
| [14:28:46] | wagnerrp: | no idea |
| [14:29:02] | wagnerrp: | bergqvistjl: consider the video library in mythweb broken |
| [14:29:06] | fugg: | bergqvistjl, i was on the way to talk about this, on your own network you may use 'mythtv'@'%' |
| [14:29:15] | wagnerrp: | dont bother much trying to fix your configuration |
| [14:29:35] | bergqvistjl: | ok |
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| [14:30:49] | bergqvistjl: | well i've fixed it now Wagnerrp :P |
| [14:31:46] | fugg: | ok, i have to go but maybe someone can give me a hint, will repeat my last question and be back in approx. 5h |
| [14:31:51] | fugg: | hello, i moved a card from a slave to a new master, there i have this in dmesg --> http://pastebin.com/WHP55Z4H and /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 exists. but setup reports "could not get cardinfo". what may i miss ? |
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| [14:32:26] | wagnerrp: | maybe the card is already open? |
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| [14:54:26] | dekarl: | fugg, sounds a bit like http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10830#comment:9 |
| [14:55:37] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: seen this? http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/1/2012-09-05:07:16:33 |
| [14:56:01] | wagnerrp: | yeah, he PM'd me the same thing |
| [14:56:08] | dekarl: | ok |
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| [14:59:45] | dekarl: | btw, can you change #10784 to patch – feature? |
| [14:59:45] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10784 ** | |
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| [16:08:05] | smoothifier: | I'm getting strange behavior when scanning for videos in mythfrontend. See http://pastebin.com/bB2JkxAC for details |
| [16:09:33] | smoothifier: | basically, the scan seems to be corrupted. all i can think is that an update to mysql or a supporting program must have done it as I haven't seen this before about a week ago. |
| [16:10:09] | smoothifier: | I can remove the videos and then re-add them with a scan and that fixes it until i get new content |
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| [16:26:31] | MitchCapper: | Across the bottom of the picture there is a small line of like noise or something similar that I see what would cause something like that? |
| [16:27:04] | MitchCapper: | i used to assume this was cc or other data but im guessing not any more |
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| [16:39:29] | wagnerrp: | smoothifier: what exactly is the strange behavior? |
| [16:40:20] | wagnerrp: | oh, that you have the 'storage' stuff mixed in... |
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| [16:48:34] | smoothifier: | wagnerrp: right. it's showing the newest nodes on the tree, and then adding the rest of the tree to the root |
| [16:49:32] | smoothifier: | i haven't scanned it yet to fix the problem if there's some way of dumping the nodes (if that would even help) |
| [16:50:34] | wagnerrp: | my guess... some kind of artifact from 'file browse mode' |
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| [16:51:05] | smoothifier: | i don't think i've run that... but, possibly i suppose |
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| [16:51:39] | smoothifier: | should i just chmod 000 /storage/videos/samba and rescan? |
| [16:52:14] | smoothifier: | then back to 755 and scan again? |
| [16:53:09] | wagnerrp: | would be a good option |
| [16:53:25] | wagnerrp: | flush everything and start fresh |
| [16:53:34] | smoothifier: | that's what i did last time. see if this happens again :/ |
| [16:53:36] | smoothifier: | heheh |
| [16:53:45] | wagnerrp: | would be better if it werent on CIFS to be honest |
| [16:53:51] | smoothifier: | it's not |
| [16:54:07] | smoothifier: | it's a local directory. ti's called samba because i share it to other comptuers |
| [16:54:40] | smoothifier: | /storage/videos/samba is its own partition |
| [16:55:09] | wagnerrp: | i dont know what affect crossing partitions like that has on the scanner |
| [16:55:14] | wagnerrp: | it *shouldnt* be a problem, but... |
| [16:55:40] | wagnerrp: | actually, now, ive got my stuff crossing partitions multiple times with no issue |
| [16:55:44] | wagnerrp: | so scratch that |
| [16:55:58] | smoothifier: | it's not quite clear the way i've done things |
| [16:56:16] | smoothifier: | really, /storage/videos/samba should be /storage/videos |
| [16:56:30] | smoothifier: | i guess |
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| [17:02:33] | smoothifier: | ok, thanks wagnerrp — I'm off to grab some lunch. Hopefully, this will fix it. :) |
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| [17:05:59] | loganrun: | is it possible to have both HDMI sound output and analog |
| [17:06:20] | loganrun: | I saw the options to choose either, but not sure about both |
| [17:06:29] | wagnerrp: | only if you route sound through a custom ALSA device that duplicates audio to both |
| [17:06:44] | loganrun: | do you have one of those handy |
| [17:06:58] | wagnerrp: | it is possible, but i dont know nearly enough about also configuration (or really anything) to tell you how |
| [17:07:05] | wagnerrp: | s/also/alsa/ |
| [17:07:43] | wagnerrp: | you're better off having your HDMI device bounce audio to whatever your analog device is |
| [17:08:38] | loganrun: | audio is going into a receiver, but the audio on HDMI is pass through only, but for my second zone I need analog |
| [17:09:03] | wagnerrp: | use the second zone on your receiver |
| [17:09:10] | loganrun: | I use both |
| [17:09:20] | wagnerrp: | so this would be a third zone |
| [17:09:38] | loganrun: | for the primary zone the HDMI audio is decoded, but not for zone 2 |
| [17:09:55] | loganrun: | yes, but it is pass through also |
| [17:10:54] | loganrun: | well not a big deal, I guess I can always toggle it if need be, it is in one of the menus |
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| [17:24:51] | loganrun: | is there an easy way to remote control mythtv with Iphone |
| [17:25:06] | loganrun: | isn't always convenient to have the IR remote around |
| [17:26:11] | wagnerrp: | there are applications for iOS that can interface with the control socket, and the services API controls |
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| [17:32:57] | loganrun: | the app say I need to enable the network interface on mythtv frontend, any idea where that is |
| [17:33:30] | wagnerrp: | not off hand, likely in the frontend settings |
| [17:33:37] | wagnerrp: | someplace general |
| [17:33:40] | loganrun: | ok looking |
| [17:36:38] | loganrun: | o.k. found it, under settings general, wonder if I have to restart or something after that |
| [17:36:44] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [17:36:57] | wagnerrp: | is this a dedicated frontend? or a combo machine? |
| [17:37:21] | loganrun: | combo machine |
| [17:37:38] | wagnerrp: | what IP address did you configure for that profile in mythtv-setup? |
| [17:37:56] | loganrun: | not sure |
| [17:38:13] | loganrun: | could be the local IP |
| [17:38:13] | wagnerrp: | is it possible you left it as the default, 127.0.0.1? |
| [17:38:33] | loganrun: | hmm let me shut things down and rerun setup to check |
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| [17:38:48] | wagnerrp: | just open setup, no need to shut things down |
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| [17:44:03] | loganrun: | seems like a restart may have done it |
| [17:44:39] | loganrun: | well the app at least things it is connected, though it doesn't seem to do anything so far |
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| [17:45:41] | wagnerrp: | could i see the first couple dozen lines of logs from mythfrontend? |
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| [17:48:25] | loganrun: | o.k. my mistake, looks like it is o.k., pretty cool, no lag like with IR |
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| [17:52:49] | loganrun: | definately worth a look if you have an iphone |
| [17:54:49] | wagnerrp: | theres a more advanced one for pay on the app store, with streaming capabilities |
| [17:54:58] | wagnerrp: | but i dont know if that will continue to be maintained in the future |
| [17:55:46] | caelor: | do we know if there's an intention for it to support both torc and mythtv, or only torc as the codebases (presumably) diverge? |
| [17:56:10] | wagnerrp: | that would be a question for iamlindoro |
| [17:56:20] | wagnerrp: | torc is restarting completely from fresh |
| [17:56:39] | caelor: | indeed. I've not checked in on progress with it lately |
| [17:57:13] | caelor: | last I checked they seemed to be trying to evolve by rewriting huge chunks of code, effectively using the original code to bootstrap them into a working system while they developed fresh |
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| [18:07:52] | EvilGuru: | Hmm, upgrading to 0.26 on the DB side of things looks like a real PITA |
| [18:09:32] | wagnerrp: | primarily just the shift from local timezone to UTC |
| [18:10:11] | EvilGuru: | It make sense, just MySQL enjoys being timezone inept in most installs |
| [18:10:36] | wagnerrp: | merely because most distros dont bother making it not-inept in their packages |
| [18:11:00] | wagnerrp: | its basically a one-liner to load the relevant data out of the timezone files |
| [18:11:27] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: For a user, but for a distro they need to start running it every time tzinfo changes |
| [18:11:50] | EvilGuru: | I am guessing they are currently not prepared for that |
| [18:11:53] | wagnerrp: | how often does that actually happen though? |
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| [18:12:00] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: 8–9 times a year |
| [18:12:23] | wagnerrp: | areas are changing their timezones that often? |
| [18:13:11] | EvilGuru: | [ebuild R ] sys-libs/timezone-data-2012e |
| [18:13:17] | wagnerrp: | i mean the EST/EDT zone im using has data for all ~80 years of UNIX time, forward and backward |
| [18:14:09] | EvilGuru: | I think it got to k last year, and so if the MySQL tz stuff is to stay in sync hooks are required |
| [18:14:10] | sphery: | EvilGuru: but no sane application stores local time--we were told this by users--so we had to switch to UTC |
| [18:14:30] | EvilGuru: | sphery: Sure, I am just more used to doing it at the application level |
| [18:14:48] | wagnerrp: | i have the python bindings operating at the local level |
| [18:15:02] | sphery: | and because MythTV is an application that needs to work with primarily-local-time data--program listings--we need MySQL to be able to do conversion from our new storage format (UTC) to the listings/scheduling time format (local time) |
| [18:15:14] | wagnerrp: | i figured it was easier to parse the timezones and do my own conversions |
| [18:15:29] | wagnerrp: | rather than rewriting a whole bunch of SQL to properly convert the timezones |
| [18:15:41] | sphery: | i.e. when you create a timeslot rule to record from 8–9pm, you probably don't want to delete it and recreate it every time DST changes occur |
| [18:15:46] | wagnerrp: | not to mention i needed to do so anyway for the responses from the backend and services api |
| [18:15:55] | EvilGuru: | sphery: I do a lot of stuff in finance and have similar issues (want UTC in the DB), but have always prefered app-level conversions |
| [18:16:09] | sphery: | EvilGuru: all that needs to happen is updating the tzinfo data when your particular time zone is changed |
| [18:16:25] | sphery: | (which, for the US, has happened once in the last 7 years or so) |
| [18:16:38] | EvilGuru: | sphery: I know, it is just getting distributions to do that on behalf of users |
| [18:16:40] | sphery: | it's irrelevant whether the other time zone info is current or not if you don't use it |
| [18:16:59] | wagnerrp: | what hes saying is that at the distribution level, they need to update things any time _any_ timezone changes |
| [18:17:40] | sphery: | yeah, for maximum safety, that's best |
| [18:17:55] | wagnerrp: | its not a one-time load for mysql |
| [18:18:06] | wagnerrp: | there would need to be some tie in that would update it any time things changed |
| [18:18:32] | sphery: | but since distros haven't traditionally accepted responsibility for installing/updating MySQL time zone info, one could argue that it's the user's problem keeping it up to date |
| [18:19:12] | EvilGuru: | sphery: It is a fair argument, but with MythTV being the first app to make strong use of MySQL timezones it is going to be an issue in waiting |
| [18:19:13] | sphery: | ideally, though, the tzdata packages would handle updating mysql tz info if mysql is installed (and/or if mysql tz info is installed) |
| [18:20:05] | sphery: | EvilGuru: yeah, I completely agree with you--and my argument is really just a complaint about the change in general |
| [18:20:19] | EvilGuru: | I am kind of annoyed that distros do not do it currently |
| [18:20:51] | EvilGuru: | And knowing MySQL it may well matter what DB user runs the insert/parser script |
| [18:21:06] | sphery: | I've been against the idea of storing UTC since I wrote the time zone check code and realized that what's important in MythTV is not what time it is now, but what time it has been since the first recording/program listing and into the future for as long as the MythTV system will be used |
| [18:21:22] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the standard user does not even have read access to the timezone tables, much less write |
| [18:21:23] | sphery: | but since users just think time zone is about what time it is now, they argued loudly to change it |
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| [18:21:40] | wagnerrp: | unless the distro set up some custom user for that specific purpose, it would have to be root |
| [18:21:49] | sphery: | so now, instead of having an issue 2 times a year when DST changes occur, we have issues throughout the entire year |
| [18:22:02] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: I think Debian create an admin user for this kind of stuff, but it is distro specific |
| [18:22:09] | sphery: | including the issue of having to use MySQL to do conversions (and, therefore, having to keep MySQL tz data updated) |
| [18:22:28] | EvilGuru: | Then to make things even more fun users will start of doing it themselves, complain about it, distros will start doing it and something will clash |
| [18:22:35] | sphery: | not to mention having to store more-complex sql to handle "record it at 7pm" type stuff |
| [18:22:36] | wagnerrp: | why do all these users always complain about problems where VNC conflicts with their local X server? |
| [18:22:37] | EvilGuru: | *start off |
| [18:23:08] | wagnerrp: | does no one realize that the NORMAL behavior of VNC is to run its own independent X server? |
| [18:23:27] | EvilGuru: | sphery: What are the current issues with non-UTC in the DB? |
| [18:23:31] | wagnerrp: | and that tying it into the local X server is both some non-standard behavior and completely unnecessary? |
| [18:23:42] | sphery: | you're thinking like a *nix guy, wagnerrp ... Obviously you've never used the /real/ VNC, WinVNC |
| [18:23:56] | wagnerrp: | EvilGuru: twice a year, a handful of users have issues recording content that falls across the DST change |
| [18:24:20] | sphery: | after all, there's only one gui on a computer--next thing you'll be telling me is that computers can somehow run multiple programs at the same time, too |
| [18:24:43] | wagnerrp: | of course they can, thats why people invented virtual machines, to pull off that feat |
| [18:24:56] | wagnerrp: | the wonders of the multitasking hypervisor |
| [18:25:11] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: That I annoying I guess, but am not entirely convinced given how much work UTC in the DB appears to require |
| [18:25:22] | sphery: | EvilGuru: yes, 2 times a year (in areas that use DST), there's an ambiguity in time specification when using local times, so users have to think before creating rules for recordings that start/end on the DST switch boundary or that span that boundary |
| [18:25:27] | wagnerrp: | that is annoying to a very small number of users |
| [18:25:37] | wagnerrp: | since honestly, who is recording crap at 2AM anyway... |
| [18:25:43] | fafa88: | someone also complained about leap secs. |
| [18:25:48] | EvilGuru: | I was about to say that the change is normally in the morning |
| [18:26:04] | wagnerrp: | but every time there is a switch over, one or two people have problems and complain on the mailing list |
| [18:26:08] | EvilGuru: | fafa88: Don't get me started on leap seconds, the last one cost me a nights sleep |
| [18:26:37] | sphery: | i.e. for spring forward, you need to add a 1-hr end late or whatever |
| [18:26:49] | devinheitmueller: | EvilGuru: a whole night? But it's only *one second*! |
| [18:27:07] | sphery: | and you should have gotten 1s extra sleep that night! |
| [18:27:11] | wagnerrp: | and when that happens, all the denizens come out of the woodwork to expouse their real ultimate knowledge about how mythtv _should_ work |
| [18:27:19] | ** sphery was abnormally well rested that day ** | |
| [18:27:27] | ** devinheitmueller breaks out his pitchfork.... ** | |
| [18:27:35] | sphery: | (of course, not a single one of my GNU/Linux boxes hit the leap second bug) |
| [18:27:41] | EvilGuru: | I agree that in most situations dates in the DB should be UTC, but MythTV DBs operate in one timezone only |
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| [18:27:50] | wagnerrp: | fafa88: the issue with that last leap second was not that times were wrong |
| [18:28:01] | wagnerrp: | but that it caused a glitch in all sorts of software |
| [18:28:09] | sphery: | EvilGuru: yeah, the biggest problem is that TV broadcasts operate in local time |
| [18:28:14] | wagnerrp: | and idle waits became busy loops |
| [18:28:28] | sphery: | so when you're creating rules for recording TV broadcasts, they should be in local time |
| [18:28:37] | devinheitmueller: | We should just use stardates for everything. |
| [18:28:39] | wagnerrp: | it was not a "proper" leap second, it really had nothing to do with proper time keeping |
| [18:28:44] | wagnerrp: | it was a bug |
| [18:28:48] | sphery: | which means that when you have listings stored in UTC, you have to do conversions--which means you can't specify actual times in the rules |
| [18:29:01] | EvilGuru: | This may sound silly, but can the UTC stuff be reverted? Or reconsidered? |
| [18:29:05] | sphery: | devinheitmueller: +1 on stardates |
| [18:29:15] | ** sphery would love to get rid of time zones, completely ** | |
| [18:29:20] | sphery: | one standard time for all of earth |
| [18:29:29] | wagnerrp: | im all for going to UTC everywhere |
| [18:29:35] | sphery: | (and we'll conquer the rest of the solar system/galaxy/universe later) |
| [18:30:14] | sphery: | people just can't handle the idea of, "I'll set my alarm for 4pm and have breakfast at 5pm so I can get an early start at work at 6pm." |
| [18:30:47] | sphery: | so I'll just settle for getting rid of DST |
| [18:30:54] | Sharky-AFK is now known as Sharky112065 | |
| [18:31:21] | devinheitmueller: | It amazes me that somebody decided it was better to *redefine* 9am rather than just have a date at which point everybody starts working at 8am. |
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| [18:31:59] | EvilGuru: | I know Qt does not have great tz support, but it can go from local to UTC and back again IIRC |
| [18:32:15] | fafa88: | devinheitmueller: humans work better following the sun. |
| [18:32:33] | devinheitmueller: | fafa88: tell that to everybody who works the overnight shift. |
| [18:33:33] | sphery: | devinheitmueller: hehe, yeah... There's a certain browser that runs on only one OS, and I happen to know of a particular bug in that browser that causes some data in HTTP responses marked to disallow caching to be cached, anyway. Rather than fix the browser, the vendor--who also makes an operating system--"fixed" the operating system to make it so that you can't see the leaked files unless you really know what you're doing and look at ... |
| [18:33:39] | sphery: | ... the filesystem structures without using the OS's normal file system tools |
| [18:34:23] | sphery: | I see that as basically the same--rather than fixing the problem, just redefine the environment |
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| [18:41:02] | wagnerrp: | i dont know why anyone would want to start work at 9am anyway |
| [18:41:08] | wagnerrp: | thats a terrible time of the day |
| [18:41:54] | wizbit: | wagnerrp: what is your preferred time? |
| [18:42:27] | wagnerrp: | id rather go in early, and not have to deal with rush hour from all the sheep going to work at 9am... or sleep in and stay late |
| [18:42:44] | wizbit: | ok |
| [18:43:01] | wagnerrp: | everyone going to work at the same time, having coordinated shifts like that... its just a bad idea |
| [18:43:03] | ** EvilGuru comes in late and stays late and saves a fortune on train tickets ** | |
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| [18:43:49] | wagnerrp: | any "professional" is going to come in whatever hours they need to in order to get their allotted work done, so scheduled hours are meaningless |
| [18:44:41] | wagnerrp: | anyone who works a specific shift, its much better to have individual workers cycle through at differing times of the day, so you dont have any one single low point in operation |
| [18:46:16] | wagnerrp: | train tickets are cheaper at off hours? |
| [18:46:28] | EvilGuru: | 40% where I am |
| [18:46:58] | wagnerrp: | wooo! "ubisoft has announced that it will no longer use always-online drm for its pc games" |
| [18:48:00] | wagnerrp: | "the truth of it, they're more inconvenient to our paying customers, so in listening to our players, we removed them" |
| [18:48:17] | wagnerrp: | can it be? a glimmer of sense? |
| [18:53:47] | kormoc: | just wait till after the first one is released |
| [18:58:17] | wagnerrp: | In other news, Ubisoft announces its games are now free for download online. Its games will now require a purchasable USB dongle to play. The dongle has a radio clock, and requires pickup from a time beacon to allow the game to operate, and includes a pyrotechnic charge and self destructs one year after first use. |
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| [20:14:03] | fugg: | hi again ;) any hints why mythbackend-setup may spit a "could not get cardinfo" while modules,dmesg and /dev are fine ? i thought about 2 things a.) firmware b.) other code but that would be "unable to open", |
| [20:14:26] | wagnerrp: | what user are you running `mythtv-setup` as? |
| [20:14:58] | fugg: | root via ssh |
| [20:15:50] | wagnerrp: | meaning you `ssh` into the machine, `su` to root, and then redirect mythtv-setup's DISPLAY to your local X server? |
| [20:16:56] | fugg: | nah, i am root and ssh -fCX thathost taskset -c 0 mythtv-setup |
| [20:17:34] | wagnerrp: | nonsense, surely no sensible default configuration would let you SSH into root |
| [20:17:49] | wagnerrp: | also, taskset was only necessary due to some bug in 0.22, you havent had to do that in some time |
| [20:18:23] | wagnerrp: | and you shouldnt be running mythtv-setup as root anyway, you should be running it as whatever user is going to be running mythbackend |
| [20:18:39] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, a whole bunch of permissions and access checks dont function properly |
| [20:19:19] | wagnerrp: | when you say "/dev" are fine, is that /dev/video0? or /dev/dvb/adapter0? |
| [20:19:28] | fugg: | wagnerrp, worked always, even on the same version and the old master. |
| [20:20:07] | wagnerrp: | it will work, im saying there are a number of sanity checks that mythtv-setup performs to ensure mythbackend will function properly |
| [20:20:33] | wagnerrp: | when you run mythtv-setup as root, who has permission to everything, a number of those sanity checks performed are now meaningless |
| [20:20:59] | fugg: | wagnerrp, the card in question asking for /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 which was vreated, i have also /dev/video0 which is not nused. |
| [20:21:31] | wagnerrp: | you set it up as a DVB type? and mythtv autodetected the device? |
| [20:21:56] | fugg: | yes, i selected dvb and it was showing up, just with this cardid-error |
| [20:22:19] | wagnerrp: | could you pastebin your mythtv-setup logs? |
| [20:22:34] | fugg: | if there are some ... |
| [20:23:12] | wagnerrp: | it logs to the terminal you ran it from by default |
| [20:25:33] | fugg: | ok, found something else in mythvackend.log, there is "Device or resource busy" but nothing else up o.O |
| [20:26:18] | wagnerrp: | you just ran mythtv-setup directly, so there should be no mythbackend.log, you didnt tell it to log to any file |
| [20:26:26] | wagnerrp: | the only logs should be those in the terminal |
| [20:27:13] | fugg: | will invoke it again to get all messages. |
| [20:28:46] | fugg: | FE_GET_INFO ioctl failed (/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 is obv. the related part. |
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| [20:58:43] | fugg: | will check it tomorrow, night all. |
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| [22:01:19] | dekarl: | fugg, did you check the link I posted when you first asked? It has references to the linux bug and bugfix... |
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| [22:52:37] | makoto: | the fonts on my mythfrontend are absolutely huge. i understand mythtv was made for large screens, but i'm runnign it on a small 14" monitor at my desk, and I'd like to turn the fonts down a bit. has anyone acomplished this? is it easy? |
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| [23:04:08] | makoto: | another one thats bugging me too, is there a script out there that finds SIDs that match up to freesat channel numbers and then renumbers them all? |
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