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| [14:01:08] | sphery: | spoky99: I don't know much about the metadata stuff, but IIRC, there's a setting on each recording rule that says whether it should be run or not |
| [14:01:31] | sphery: | so you'd have to edit all your rules to remove that |
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| [14:14:58] | utente: | I would like to have more info on how to use and how to "test if it is working" mythfilldatabase. I use a mythtv latest 0.27.5 in a mythbuntu 140403 system. First question is about this two mythtv guides: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/EIT and https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/EPG . Is it always true that you have never to use both EIT and XMLTV grabber in the same channel ?? |
| [14:16:05] | tgm4883: | What would be the point in using them for the same channel? |
| [14:17:32] | utente: | In https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/EIT guide : “ 2. Disable EIT collection on only certain channels so that you can use EIT for some channels and XMLTV/SD for other channels on the same Video Source (though never use both on any channel) “ |
| [14:17:32] | utente: | I don't understand why it's possible to use both EIT and XMLTV-configure in the SOURCE INPUT / CHANNEL EDITOR configuration pages of mythtv-backend setup if it's not supported. Just my first question, thanks |
| [14:18:36] | tgm4883: | utente: that's a good question, and one I don't know |
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| [14:24:43] | utente: | Is transmitted guide only(EIT) in SOURCE INPUT mythtvbacked setup , is this the same thing that it's called "On air guide" in CHANNEL EDITOR for each channel? |
| [14:27:51] | spoky99: | utente: you could run mythfilldatabase from bash (I do soas a lot of time without using mythtv) but I use the xmltv not EIT that in Italy don't work well |
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| [14:30:05] | spoky99: | utente: you could recover data EIT, save it into a xml file, identify the source and inject it using mytfilldatabase |
| [14:30:49] | utente: | The point to use both of them is that I was of the idea that pressing "I" while I'm watchign LIVE TV give me the name of a the show going live. While XMLTV tv listing give me the listings of all the week, am I wrong? |
| [14:31:32] | spoky99: | The EIT data show only one day (in italy) |
| [14:32:03] | spoky99: | with xmltv you could save 5 day in the future |
| [14:32:15] | utente: | The point to use both of them is that I was of the idea that pressing "I" while I'm watchign LIVE TV give me the name of a the show going live(this is EIT or on air guise,that is same thinbg to me) While XMLTV tv listing give me the listings of all the week, am I wrong? |
| [14:32:40] | spoky99: | yess |
| [14:34:26] | spoky99: | I don't know how each channel save EIT in your contry, here often show only the data of the program on air |
| [14:34:52] | utente: | I'm in italy too |
| [14:35:50] | spoky99: | If you use EIT, they work for one day, you could start the computer early in the morning for to save EIT ando you don't see the upcoming program in the next day |
| [14:36:48] | spoky99: | I use xmltv from cvs and I rename more program with self-made scripting |
| [14:38:51] | spoky99: | In italy use analogic decoded streaming for pass analogic data the same data elsewhere pass directly in digital |
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| [14:40:59] | utente: | Ok, now on I'll disable EIT completely, that means to disable "on air guide" in each channel. I have 2 dvb-t usb sticks, do I have to create and configure two XMLTV sources, and then to give ise them as INPUT CONNECTION , after that to scan channels, then to return to configure my XMLTV sources cause now I have already scanned channels....is it so more or less ? |
| [14:41:41] | spoky99: | noooo! you could use EIT for the live, but for the program guide you could use xmltv |
| [14:42:06] | spoky99: | no |
| [14:45:06] | spoky99: | or yess... I use one source for more input |
| [14:46:25] | spoky99: | and the channel reording and adding the adress for xmltv in each channel is easy to do using mythweb |
| [14:46:49] | utente: | ok, so I will use the first /dev/dvb/adapter0 configured in SOURCE INPUT with transmitted guide only(EIT) , the second with xmltv grabber. Is this the right way to go? |
| [14:47:21] | spoky99: | no |
| [14:47:29] | spoky99: | use xmltv |
| [14:47:34] | spoky99: | not EIT |
| [14:47:58] | spoky99: | EIT work in live tv also if you don't set it in mythtv-setup |
| [14:49:03] | spoky99: | but you could use xmltv from csv, are more updated |
| [14:49:54] | utente: | ah ok, so as I said before. do I have to create a new SOURCE INPUT who use XMLTV grabber for each DVB-T usb stick?? OR can I share the same SOURCE INPUT configured grabber with all the INPUY CONNECTIONS available in the system? |
| [14:52:55] | utente: | my xmltv came from a PPA made for mythbuntu, now it's 0.5.63–2 , I don't know how to use a CVS, anyway xmltv is updated monthly more or less. |
| [14:54:19] | tgm4883: | the mythbuntu ppa is built daily. The last build on it is from 10/10 |
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| [15:03:33] | utente: | always about mythfilldatabase, I know mythbackend run mythfilldatabase automatically every 24 hours, to test that is difficult, can I change that as to run each hour so I know it's working well? |
| [15:04:39] | spoky99: | I disable it, and I run xmltv. processing the data and inject into the database every time that the computer start |
| [15:09:55] | utente: | what does it mean "I run xmltv" , would be ok to put "mythfilldatase" as something to do when the session start? automatically run "mythfilldatabase" at boot of the system?? |
| [15:11:30] | utente: | Anyway again, if mythfilldatabse doesn't work, or if it works, I was trying to find a way to test it for everybody. Another solution is ok too, but it's not what I was looking for. |
| [15:20:09] | spoky99: | I run it not from mythtv for control exactly what do |
| [15:21:15] | spoky99: | tv_grab_it --quiet --config-file ...alfa.xmltv --verbose --output ...outp0.xml |
| [15:21:31] | spoky99: | config file you shoud puty the exact path |
| [15:21:44] | spoky99: | the same thing is for the output |
| [15:21:52] | spoky99: | home etc etc |
| [15:22:14] | spoky99: | mythfilldatabase --file --sourceid 3 --xmlfile out4.xml |
| [15:22:53] | spoky99: | sourceid you should understand what is (reading into mythweb help you) |
| [15:23:27] | spoky99: | out4.xml shoud have the correct path |
| [15:24:16] | spoky99: | launcing it from a terminal (bash) you could see if goes well or if there is someting that goes wrong |
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| [15:47:32] | Jay___: | hello |
| [15:47:52] | Jay___: | new to IRC, so please excuse my mistakes |
| [15:49:30] | Jay___: | anyone here able to help? |
| [15:49:45] | Jay___: | having issues adding channels to myth tv from hdhomerun |
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| [16:09:16] | Jay___: | anyone able to point me int correct direction? |
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| [16:13:47] | utente: | [ out4.xml shoud have the correct path ] which is the right path for out4.xml?? is it /home/.mythtv ?? |
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| [16:16:24] | Jay___: | i dont know out4.xml |
| [16:16:28] | Jay___: | what is that used for? |
| [16:19:06] | utente: | it's about an old discussion about Mythfilldatabase. about --sourceid , do I have to consider I have 4 different sourceid cause I own two dvb-t?? OR do I have only one sourceid ?? |
| [16:21:15] | utente: | I didn't understand how to test mythfilldatabase, it happens often it works if runned from a bash, and does not run alone. I use also mythwelcome, pressing M you can run mythfilldatabase and it works, but then you have to wait 24 hours before mythbackend run it automatically again(if enabled in mythtvbackend). |
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| [16:34:41] | utente: | about mythfilldatabase, I know mythbackend run mythfilldatabase automatically every 24 hours, I found that to test that is really difficult, can I change that as to run each hour so I can test that and be sure it's working well? I'm looking a way to test mythfilldatabase. |
| [16:35:03] | utente: | I setted in GENERAL in mythbackend-setup ,automatically update program listings enabled, guide data program "mythfilldatabase". execution start at 4 ,execution stop at 5. |
| [16:35:03] | utente: | If I on my pc during night at 4:00am should mythfilldatabse run automatically during startup?? should mythfilldatabase run also if it's not 24hours from the last time it has been run?? |
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| [17:10:33] | spoky99: | Someone could help me to disable metadata search? I disable it into mythttv-setup and in mythfrontend setting, but open new job and stop the shutdown of mytht |
| [17:10:49] | spoky99: | is there any other menu or setting that disable the metadata of new recorded program? |
| [17:13:29] | spoky99: | I disable it into frontend setup and mythtv-setup but mythtv still launch a job every recorded program, it don't work and block shutdown |
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| [19:50:03] | sphery: | spoky99: did you look at your recording rules, as I mentioned earlier? Pretty sure you have to disable it on all your existing rules and may need to set the default template to disable it. http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/1/2015-10-14:14:01:00 |
| [19:54:24] | spoky99: | recording rule? |
| [19:54:57] | spoky99: | uh... I have 200 or more recording rules! |
| [19:55:41] | spoky99: | Which default template? |
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| [20:11:21] | ctmjr: | under recording rules you have a default template that is what he is talking about |
| [20:14:27] | spoky99: | recording rules menù is in mythtv-setup or into mythfrontend? |
| [20:15:18] | ctmjr: | frontend under manage recordings |
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| [20:23:20] | spoky99: | cjmjr: settings -> tv setting -> recording? is disable, but if I create a new rules become with "lookup metadata" and "auto-flag commercial" that are disable into the setting menu |
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| [20:30:39] | ctmjr: | what your looking for is a menu in the frontend "Manage Recordings" -> "Recording Rules" |
| [20:36:55] | ctmjr: | I do not know what issues you are having just letting you know where the recording rules are that sphery mentioned. |
| [20:38:04] | spoky99: | I don't find it, tomorrow I set the language in english and I will search this menù, mybe changing also the template restoring the default theme |
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| [08:12:26] | spoky999: | hi all |
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| [08:25:29] | spoky999: | sphery & ctmjr: I edit all the recording rules, but if I add a new recording program there are look up metadata and auto-flag commercials selected, I open all the menù into settings and they are uncecked and not active and I don't found recording rules template, or where it is someting like recording rules there's not any checkable option for disable this two jobs! |
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| [08:28:20] | spoky999: | sphery & ctmjr: I reading also into the database, browsing it with phpmyadmin, without found any field for disable this two job. where I could find it? |
| [08:29:45] | spoky999: | sphery & ctmjr: Is not very handy disable it using the frontend menu, and is not very handy disable it using mythweb |
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