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Thursday, March 14th, 2013, 19:35 UTC
[19:35:19] tgm4883: Has anyone heard of issues with the local backend address box in 0.27? I've got a user telling me it's imutable in KDE (Kubuntu)
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[19:47:22] sphery: tgm4883: someone was talking about a similar issue with some music settings screens on -users list
[19:47:47] tgm4883: sphery, is the local address in 0.27 suppose to be a drop down box?
[19:48:50] sphery: it's a combobox
[19:49:37] tgm4883: sphery, so no manual text entry now?
[19:49:47] sphery: seems not
[19:50:09] tgm4883: should it always be 127.0.0.1 then?
[19:50:21] sphery: unless I'm misreading the code, it has rw (editable) set to false
[19:50:33] sphery: it should always show any usable addresses
[19:50:51] sphery: meaning if it's not showing the addresses it should, networking isn't (or wasn't) properly configured
[19:51:20] sphery: though I'm not sure if wagnerrp has said something about a bug he's working on
[19:51:21] tgm4883: define properly configured. I've got one setup in a vm right now and it's not working
[19:51:28] tgm4883: it only shows 127.0.0.1
[19:51:33] tgm4883: master backend w/ mysql
[19:51:35] sphery: (there was one at one time, possibly related to that or something else)
[19:52:25] tgm4883: sphery, is it looking for static addresses only?
[19:53:10] sphery: best I can tell you is: http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . pool.cpp#n80
[19:53:53] tgm4883: sphery, that doesn't seem to be python ;)
[19:54:27] sphery: it's also 200 lines, which is too much for me to read, now (as I should be working, instead :)
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[19:57:14] sphery: but you should see some kind of log output about "Adding IPv4 loopback to address list." or "Adding link-local '%1' to address list." or "Skipping non-private address during IPv4 autoselection: %1"
[19:57:38] sphery: tgm4883: perhaps you've configured your network to use other-than-reserved network block?
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[19:58:00] sphery: the backend will refuse to listen on a routable/non-reserved network address
[19:58:07] tgm4883: 10.21.6.x
[19:58:12] sphery: i.e. so you don't connect it to the Internet
[19:58:32] sphery: in theory that would work
[19:59:03] sphery: check logs to see what it says
[19:59:06] sphery: default verbosity should show
[19:59:09] tgm4883: I see 3 serverpool entries in my mythtv-setup log
[19:59:20] tgm4883: all binding
[19:59:31] DarthFrog: Hi folks. Is anyone noticing a problem setting the IPv4 address in mythtv-setup in 0.27? It's immutable for me and only offers 127.0.0.1. I can't change it to my needed 192.168.1.100 as no other addresses other than 127.0.0.1 are offered in the combo box picklist.
[19:59:34] sphery: ah, you'll need to turn on debug
[20:00:00] tgm4883: sphery, mythtv-setup --debug?
[20:00:02] sphery: --loglevel debug
[20:00:38] sphery: DarthFrog: read the conversation tgm4883 and I just had
[20:00:59] DarthFrog: OK
[20:01:05] ** sphery suspects he was asking for you **
[20:01:10] sphery: ah, you stepped in midway through
[20:01:12] tgm4883: yep
[20:01:23] DarthFrog: Could you post a pastebin of the conversation, please? :-)
[20:01:40] tgm4883: sphery, yea, it's skipping 10.21.6.x
[20:01:44] sphery: DarthFrog: http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/1/2013-03-14:19:35
[20:01:56] sphery: tgm4883: exact message?
[20:02:06] sphery: "non-private"?
[20:02:16] tgm4883: Mar 14 13:00:52 ubuntu mythlogserver: mythtv-setup[3710]: D CoreContext serverpool.cpp:188 (SelectDefaultListen) Skipping address: 10.21.6.34
[20:02:29] DarthFrog: sphery: yes, tgm4883 was asking for me, from #ubuntu-mythtv.
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[20:04:28] lapion: gregL, I am getting the following error:
[20:04:32] lapion: Mar 14 21:04:02 myth-slave mythlogserver: mythbackend[3947]: E ProcessRequest mainserver.cpp:4179 (HandleRemoteEncoder) MainServer: HandleRemoteEncoder(cmd GET_MAX_BITRATE) Unknown encoder: 38
[20:04:57] sphery: lapion: Delete all capture cards
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[20:05:11] sphery: lapion: then re-create your capture card, using MPEG Encoder type
[20:05:27] sphery: all your trial and error has put garbage in your DB that you need to clean up as above
[20:06:23] tgm4883: sphery, it seems it's skipping because it matches none of the above
[20:06:39] lapion: sphery, if I remove all cards mythtv starts counting at fourty something ?
[20:07:03] tgm4883: seems like it should fall under
[20:07:04] tgm4883: else if (!config_v4.isNull() && (ip == config_v4))
[20:07:20] sphery: tgm4883: yeah, not sure what it's supposed to do, but I'd guess it's either a bug (likely the one he once mentioned in passing to someone in here that he's working on) or something in your configuration is telling it to ignore it
[20:07:31] sphery: you should ask wagne rrp
[20:07:52] lapion: sphery, does the db start at card 1 again if all cards are removed and reinstalled ?
[20:08:06] sphery: lapion: if it's counting at 40-something, you haven't followed instructions
[20:08:11] tgm4883: wagnerrp, do you know of a bug that would cause mythtv-setup to skip valid IP addresses (eg. 10.21.6.x) in 0.27?
[20:08:11] sphery: lapion: "Delete all capture cards"
[20:08:20] sphery: lapion: not "Delete all capture cards on <hostname>"
[20:08:39] sphery: lapion: not "highlight a capture card and press D and repeat for all cards"
[20:09:25] sphery: lapion: and no need to reinstall cards... just re-configure them in MythTV (I'm guessing you know that, but wanted to make sure you don't waste time pulling them out of the machine or anything)
[20:10:52] sphery: lapion: also note that analog channel scan may or may not work... if not, you'll need to either use a good listings source to populate them (Schedules Direct--where, actually, you should always choose this approach over scanning if you have a listings source that provides sufficient information) or manually create the channels in Channel Editor
[20:11:06] DarthFrog: sphery: It works for IPv6 addresses but is ignoring a valid IPv4 address on eth0.
[20:11:15] sphery: lapion: and analog channel scan will never work if you're using an external tuner (i.e. connecting a set-top box to the analog encoder)
[20:11:24] tgm4883: DarthFrog, yea that is what I'm seeing as well
[20:11:33] sphery: DarthFrog: yeah, I don't know what's going on
[20:11:56] sphery: but I do remember wagn errp saying something about a bug he's working on to a user in here not long ago
[20:12:02] sphery: just don't remember any details
[20:12:15] DarthFrog: Shall I report a bug?
[20:12:20] sphery: so it may be a known issue (meaning that--surprise--unstable/development code isn't stable :)
[20:12:24] sphery: no
[20:12:55] DarthFrog: I would imagine it's known as it prevents a remote frontend connection.  :-)
[20:12:57] sphery: I'm sure that he would be able to tell you exactly what's going on
[20:13:29] tgm4883: sphery, DarthFrog seems to be bug #11391
[20:13:29] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11391 **
[20:13:44] sphery: and if it is a bug, he already knows about it (and it's likely already lost in the 500+ bugs reported that are buried among the other 10K bugs in the database that make the bug database completely useless)
[20:14:00] ** sphery stands corrected **
[20:14:06] sphery: tgm4883 is still able to find bugs in there
[20:14:20] tgm4883: sphery, you mean google can find bugs in there
[20:15:26] sphery: I'm surprised of that
[20:16:25] sphery: since there's so much cr** in there, since everyone and their brother a) posted the output of configure in reports/comments rather than attaching them as, directed, b) posted log files in reports/comments rathe rthan attaching them, as directed, c) had conversations/discussion in there
[20:16:40] sphery: meaning that nearly every bug report has every useful keyword inside it somewhere
[20:16:59] sphery: kind of like if a company came out with a new product and called it "a"
[20:17:14] sphery: doing a search for "a" on the Internet wouldn't work well
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[20:17:53] sphery: as it would list basically every page (or at least every English page)
[20:18:42] tgm4883: sphery, but think of the SEO!
[20:19:01] sphery: hehe
[20:19:38] sphery: yeah, SEO... like those companies that just shove a copy of wikipedia on their site to drive you to their site
[20:19:54] sphery: amazing how anything--even things that have some usefulness--can be corrupted
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[20:36:46] DarthFrog: it's too bad that upgrading MythTV means an irreversable database schema change.
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[20:38:42] DarthFrog: Hmm, I wonder. Can I package up my 0.27 shows as Mytharchives and import them into a 0.26 system?
[20:39:31] DarthFrog: i.e. blow away 0.27 and install 0.26, then restore recordings from archives?
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[21:12:20] lapion: thanks sphery finally got the card to work.
[21:13:48] lapion: old v4l configs cannot be changed to mpeg2-cards
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[21:19:22] bill6502: sphery: tgm4883: DarthFrog: It doesn't say it in 11391, but wagnerrp: opened #11393 to track the issue.
[21:19:22] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11393 **
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[21:31:50] sphery: lapion: yeah, they need very different configurations and if you don't clear things out properly, the old/broken config will prevent you from getting a good config
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[21:32:18] sphery: lapion: that's why "Delete all capture cards" is generally my first recommendation--it always cleans things out properly (because it's the only approach to clean things out completely)
[21:33:00] sphery: and starting from no configuration means you're starting from a known point, so all it takes to get a successful configuration is configuring properly (versus undoing/deleting/cleaning out old config, then configuring properly)
[21:33:08] sphery: glad you got it working, though
[21:33:15] sphery: bill6502: thanks for the follow-up
[21:34:14] sphery: DarthFrog: the recommended solution for a downgrade is to restore the most-recent pre-upgrade DB backup (i.e. the last 0.26 backup you did right before you upgraded), then put all new recordings from the 0.27 install into Video Library
[21:35:04] sphery: er, I mean the 0.27pre install, since there's actually no 0.27, yet
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[21:57:34] DarthFrog: sphery: I never ran 0.26 or 0.25 on this system. Fresh install of 0.27.
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[22:05:13] sphery: DarthFrog: ah, in that case, I'd recommend you just install 0.26, start a new DB, and put the shows you've recorded in Video Library
[22:06:07] sphery: Video Library is basically the place for user-provided and/or user-managed video and Watch Recordings is "temporary" holding for any new recordings from this system
[22:06:35] sphery: temporary for until you watch and delete or until you decide to archive, at which point you're probably best off moving them to Video Library
[22:07:11] sphery: so that you can change the file name to something that's meaningful (meaningful even without the MythTV database, in case you ever lose it), and organize them as you desire
[22:09:23] DarthFrog: I didn't know you could do that. I never knew that recordings could be renamed and moved.
[22:09:24] sphery: i.e. TV/Sci-Fi/Continuum/Season1/Continuum s01e01 A Stich in Time.mpg
[22:09:46] sphery: you'd be moving them out of Watch Recordings and into Video Library
[22:10:05] DarthFrog: That sounds excellent.
[22:10:08] sphery: so, unfortunately, you'd have to know where to find them
[22:10:20] sphery: eventually, we'll make it easier to find your content, regardless of where it is
[22:10:21] DarthFrog: Oh, MythTV doesn't do it?
[22:10:36] DarthFrog: I can't do it from a Menu option?
[22:10:51] sphery: you'd have to either enter Watch Recordings or Video Library
[22:10:55] DarthFrog: I know where my recordings are.
[22:11:00] sphery: and in there, you can see what's in each place
[22:11:16] sphery: so in Video Library, you'll only see those things that are in Video Library
[22:11:59] sphery: but its UI is much better for large video collections, so if you're archiving things, you'll want to move them into Video Library eventually
[22:12:06] wagnerrp: tgm4883: it would only ignore that address if you had oa different one specified
[22:12:14] DarthFrog: Right. But how do I move a recording from Watch Recordings to Video Library? "mv /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/ <long number>.mpg /var/lib/mythtv/Videos/"
[22:12:43] tgm4883: wagnerrp, but how do you specify a different one?
[22:13:05] tgm4883: wagnerrp, the only option I see is the localhost one
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[22:13:29] DarthFrog: wagnerrp: 127.0.0.1 is the only one offered in IPv4.
[22:14:13] wagnerrp: ohh, right... that one was stuartm
[22:14:25] NathanKell: Hi folks, I was advised to come here as various fora don't seem to have an answer for my issue. My recordings show up in mythweb but not in the frontend. Presumably DB problem of some sort, but...ideas?
[22:14:27] sphery: DarthFrog: basically--but you also have to leave a file in place for MythTV to delete when you delete the recording (so you could then touch /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/<long number>.mpg or something)
[22:14:36] wagnerrp: he tried to do something neat, but misunderstood a variable. it only affects 0.27
[22:14:47] sphery: DarthFrog: and you'd want to use a good name that conforms to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_File_Parsing so that you get metadata for the video
[22:15:30] tgm4883: wagnerrp, yea that is what we were seeing to. So it's a known issue? The bug reports we saw were marked minor and closed
[22:15:32] sphery: DarthFrog: but http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythvidexport.py is probably the easiest approach
[22:15:39] sphery: though it may need some updates
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[22:15:45] sphery: perhaps wagnerrp knows...  :)
[22:15:45] DarthFrog: sphery: OK, thanks.
[22:16:01] NathanKell: (the frontend log claims SortedList is Empty)
[22:16:35] wagnerrp: there is a bug open. i forget the number
[22:16:37] sphery: NathanKell: full log showing startup through display of Watch Recordings screen, please
[22:16:43] lapion: thanks again sphery ....
[22:16:47] NathanKell: sure
[22:16:53] sphery: wagnerrp: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11391
[22:16:54] DarthFrog: wagnerrp: It prevents a remote frontend from connecting. This definitely destroys the WAF.
[22:16:55] sphery: ?
[22:16:59] wagnerrp: i closed most offf the tickets because they describedd an isssue that was not a bug
[22:17:01] tgm4883: wagnerrp, #11393
[22:17:01] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11393 **
[22:17:10] sphery: and 393 is the one you opened to follow up
[22:17:18] wagnerrp: i'm gggoing to stop typing because this latency is painful....
[22:17:39] NathanKell: sphery: let me just reboot the system so everything's clean. Couple minutes.
[22:17:45] sphery: NathanKell: see http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Posting_Logs
[22:17:54] sphery: specifically, you might want to delete you rexisting files
[22:18:00] sphery: (see "Getting Useful Logs")
[22:18:30] wagnerrp: DarthFrog: 0.27 is a developmental build. it has no guaranteees of "WAF"
[22:18:54] DarthFrog: :-) yeah, I know.
[22:18:56] sphery: DarthFrog: agreed--and since you're just starting with MythTV, you should definitely be running the stable build
[22:19:22] sphery: I'm a dev and I /only/ run unstable on my dev box, and have stable on my production system
[22:19:39] sphery: because I learned the hard way that running unstable means you /will/ miss some recordings
[22:19:43] DarthFrog: Oh, I've been running MythTV for years. :-) I'm wanting the latest & greatest support for my HD-PVR. And this is a testing system.
[22:20:04] sphery: ah, ok
[22:20:17] sphery: I thought with the new DB, you were just starting
[22:20:48] sphery: that said, I still recommend actually running the stable -fixes version for any system that actually records for you
[22:20:50] DarthFrog: Nope. I think 0.14 was where I satarted.
[22:21:58] DarthFrog: back in the days when you actually had to know what you were doing. I've gone soft. :-)
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[22:27:04] NathanKell: sphery: Frontend is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5615008/ and backend is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5615009/
[22:29:57] sphery: NathanKell: btw, are you the guy from the -users list who had this issue?
[22:30:07] sphery: (the one I planned to get back to, but hadn't found time, yet)
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[22:30:37] NathanKell: sphery: Last I checked on the users list my message hadn't gone through. I'd be very happy if it did!
[22:31:29] DarthFrog: On the other hand, 0.27 and my HD-PVR work really well together. :-)
[22:32:06] DarthFrog: Using a CommandIR III to do the channel changes on my Motorola HD terminal.
[22:35:00] NathanKell: sphery: No apparently I'm not. Someone else, on Feb 3, (Andrey) has this problem too. My message to users never got through apparently.
[22:39:31] NathanKell: sphery: this was the email I sent to users. It has more details in case they're helpful. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5615048/
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[02:04:40] grimm26: can I specify the date range that mythfilldatabase grabs?
[02:04:58] wagnerrp: you can... but why?
[02:05:06] wagnerrp: use --dd-grab-all and grab everything
[02:05:29] grimm26: I did but log is saying that the start and end dates were invald and they were corrected
[02:05:39] grimm26: so it is pulling two weeks of data up until tomorrow
[02:05:51] grimm26: and so doesn't update anything
[02:06:05] wagnerrp: it should be pulling two days past, plus another fifteen in the future
[02:06:17] grimm26: that would make sense :)
[02:06:33] wagnerrp: could you pastebin the log?
[02:06:48] grimm26: sure, relevant message shows up in mythtv_ddp_data
[02:06:51] grimm26: hang on a sec
[02:07:17] wagnerrp: whole log, not just an excerpt
[02:08:38] grimm26: mythtv_ddp_data?
[02:08:43] grimm26: http://pastebin.com/9zYaeZzW has the top of it
[02:08:57] grimm26: I'll put up the whole mythfilldatabase log too
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[02:13:19] grimm26: http://pastebin.com/mW4b7gNR mythfilldatabasde log
[02:15:11] wagnerrp: that's just odd...
[02:15:21] wagnerrp: sphery: you've got more experience with that stuff than i do... ^^^
[02:15:23] grimm26: that would be why I ended up here :)
[02:15:51] grimm26: I went to check for shows coming on this weekend and noticed my channel guide ended tomorrow :)
[02:16:03] wagnerrp: and you ran with debug logging... so presumably this has happened at least twice
[02:16:20] grimm26: mythfilldatabase --nodblog --loglevel debug --verbose file,network --logpath /tmp --dd-grab-all
[02:16:23] grimm26: is the command I used
[02:20:03] wagnerrp: ever notice peewee herman always plays the creepy bad guy?
[02:20:19] grimm26: that's no accident :)
[02:23:00] grimm26: so the mythtv_ddp_data is the SOAP response from schedulesdirect?
[02:23:31] wagnerrp: don't know, to be honest
[02:23:59] grimm26: seems like it. so either mythfilldatabase is formatting the timestamp goofy or schdulesdirect is being goofy
[02:24:00] wagnerrp: i pinged sphery. he often helps with these kinds of issues
[02:24:09] wagnerrp: i'd just idle around here for a couple hours
[02:24:19] wagnerrp: or if you can't do that for whatever reason, start a thread on the mailing list
[02:26:02] grimm26: I can sit for a bit and keep an eye open
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[02:52:29] sphery: grimm26: rm -rf /tmp/mythtv_ddp_data
[02:52:36] sphery: and any other /tmp/myth*
[02:53:13] sphery: then re-run mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all
[02:53:39] grimm26: ok. hmm, just realized that myth_ddp_data file was from feb 28
[02:53:44] grimm26: grr
[02:53:58] sphery: the fact that you actually see a /tmp/mythtv_ddp_data is the problem
[02:54:11] sphery: as it's a temp dir that should be deleted automatically :)
[02:54:50] grimm26: aha
[02:54:50] sphery: in the future (current 0.26-fixes? if not, 0.27+), it will use unique temp dir names so the problem won't ever happen again
[02:55:07] sphery: it's already been fixed, but not sure which versions the fix made it to
[02:55:20] grimm26: perhaps I ran it as root accidentally once and then mythtv user could never emove it
[02:55:23] sphery: I /think/ it was backported to current 0.26-fixes, so if you're not running the most current
[02:55:30] sphery: yep, that's typically how it happens
[02:55:52] sphery: so I suppose I should say: sudo rm -rf /tmp/mythtv_ddp_data
[02:56:05] grimm26: Grab complete. Actual data from 2013-03–14T00:00:00Z to 2013-03–30T23:59:59Z (UTC)
[02:56:10] grimm26: that looks much more promising
[02:56:15] sphery: hehe, yeah
[02:56:27] sphery: nice work for catching it /before/ you ran out of data
[02:56:30] sphery: (if only just :)
[02:57:00] grimm26: just luck :)
[02:57:09] sphery: and lucky timing--I was supposed to be in bed 2 hrs ago, but I sat down and started working on work and lost track of time
[02:57:24] sphery: otherwise, I couldn't have replied until tomorrow
[02:57:34] grimm26: new mythtv_ddp_data is still hanging around, though
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[02:58:31] grimm26: but the myth_ddp_whatever dir comes and goes
[02:58:40] grimm26: i assume that is what matters
[02:59:55] grimm26: my recordings for toninght did manage to get hosed as well, though, somehow. Error on the frontend said it couldn't find the files taht should have been there
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[03:08:14] grimm26: crap, live TV not working either now
[03:08:19] grimm26: what a night :)
[03:08:37] grimm26: VRecEvent dtvmultiplex.cpp:327 (ParseTuningParams) – DTVMux: ParseTuningParams — Unknown tuner type = 0xffffffff80000000
[03:08:51] sphery: yeah, file doesn't exist typically means your capture cards are borked
[03:09:05] sphery: when mine get that way, the easiest fix is a reboot
[03:09:18] grimm26: i use an hdhomerun
[03:09:28] grimm26: reboot taht or my linux server? :)
[03:10:09] bill6502: grimm26: I think it's the *ability* of the /tmp files to "come and go". If you run mfdb as yourself and the file(s) remain, then when housekeeping runs it as user mythtv, failures occur. Or worse, running mfdb as the root user. ( http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11195#comment:4 )
[03:10:45] wagnerrp: rebooting your linux server shouldn't do anything
[03:11:02] wagnerrp: although older HDHR units have been known to occasionally get borked after months of uptime
[03:11:13] grimm26: only been up a couple weeks i think
[03:11:34] grimm26: I'll stop mythbackend, power cycle the hdhomerun, and start up mythbackend again and see where that leaves
[03:11:37] grimm26: leaves me
[03:16:45] grimm26: same crap
[03:16:58] grimm26: maybe I have to delete and re-add the tuner
[03:17:03] grimm26: argh
[03:17:11] wagnerrp: shouldn't make a difference
[03:19:32] grimm26: shouldn't
[03:24:32] sphery: can you test it from a non-mythtv app?
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[03:28:00] sphery: wagnerrp: I find it strange that I haven't received any -users list email in 4 1/2 hrs... feel like checking the server?
[03:31:05] wagnerrp: postfix is running, mailman is running... all seems green
[03:36:21] sphery: wow, guess it's just all quiet on the western front
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[03:39:24] grimm26: hdhomerun is not picking up an IP for some reason
[03:40:53] sphery: I heard they ran out of IPv4 addresses, so maybe...
[03:40:55] sphery: (joke)
[03:41:08] sphery: actually I have no idea what might cause that
[03:44:19] wagnerrp: faulty power supply?
[03:44:31] wagnerrp: dead DHCP server?
[03:44:59] wagnerrp: apparently newer versions of the firmware are supposed to drop back to an autoconfigured (169.xxx) address in the event of no DHCP server
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[04:26:02] Korny: Evening all
[04:27:00] ** Korny is really annoyed with NFS shares right now :( **
[04:27:17] Korny: Is there any way to update all my video's to watched from unwatched
[04:27:38] sheppard: not sure
[04:31:00] ** Korny is loading up phpmyadmin **
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[04:59:02] Korny: simple as that
[04:59:13] Korny: UPDATE videometadata SET watched='1' WHERE watched='0'
[05:06:46] Korny: UPDATE videometadata SET watched='4' WHERE rating='R'
[05:06:51] Korny: that should work ideally
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[12:15:49] sphery: yay, Korny, above, posts SQL that corrupts data in the database
[12:16:55] sphery: If only there were some user interface that users could use to affect data in the database so that they didn't have to use direct SQL manipulation--which also requires learning all that data constraints and requirements that are encoded in the large number of lines of code in the MythTV applications.
[12:17:18] sphery: Perhaps we could call the user interface for affecting Video Library data the "Video Library"?
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[12:28:33] rajendrau: Python binding MythBE.getRecording returns a Program Object. But for its returning wrong card id value i.e 0 for all recordings
[12:33:12] sphery: rajendrau: we don't store information about which card a recording was recorded with
[12:33:37] sphery: I'm guessing (pure guess) the field is meant to be used when looking at upcoming recordings and is always 0 for anything else
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[12:34:20] sphery: I'm also assuming getRecording is giving you a Program object that represents a recorded program, versus a Program object that represents an upcoming recording.
[12:34:33] sphery: (I don't know my Python bindings, but I do know the data)
[12:35:35] rajendrau: sphery: so isn't there a way to know on which card the video is getting recorded.
[12:35:54] sphery: "is getting recorded" for currently recording shows?
[12:36:02] rajendrau: yes
[12:36:04] sphery: if so, I'm guessing that's available in the upcoming recordings information
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[12:36:41] sphery: getPendingRecordings or getScheduledRecordings or getUpcomingRecordings?
[12:37:51] sphery: of those, getUpcomingRecordings is "filtered for only those that will be recorded", and I'm not sure the difference between getScheduledRecordings and getPendingRecordings
[12:38:59] rajendrau: ok i will try these methods and see
[12:39:15] sphery: you may also be able to do it "backwards" with getCurrentRecording, which "Returns the program currently being recorded by the specified recorder."
[12:39:26] sphery: i.e. ask what each recorder is recording
[12:39:45] sphery: check whether active with isRecording, and if so, do a getCurrentRecording
[12:40:07] sphery: I don't know what would be the best approach, but that should give you several approaches to test out
[12:40:24] sphery: and if you see wagne rrp in here, he might have some recommendations
[12:41:17] sphery: mind if I ask what you're doing with the bindings?
[12:41:45] sphery: and if you think it might be generally useful, feel free to post the script to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Python_Scripts
[12:42:37] sphery: (this just being curiosity--I'm not trying to imply you're doing anything wrong or shouldn't be doing what you're asking about)
[12:44:22] sphery: and, FWIW, on a data perspective, the reason we don't store which card a show was recorded with is because the card ID in MythTV is basically meaningless after the recording happens, as many users have systems where physical cards change IDs on every boot due to races in initialization or change card IDs as a part of reconfiguring systems, etc., so the data would be meaningless in any long term situation
[12:44:45] rajendrau: sphery: Trying to interact completely using python scripts from console
[12:45:05] sphery: like replacement for mythfrontend?
[12:45:19] sphery: or just some particular task or tasks?
[12:46:04] sphery: if the first, then http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Python_Scripts wouldn't be a good place to put it (you'd want a real repository, like on github or sourceforge or google code) :)
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[12:51:46] SteveGoodey: !url tuners
[12:51:46] MythLogBot: tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information
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[17:27:15] quantum1: Trying to make MythMote work on my Android tablet. From what I can tell, the frontend is listening on 6547 and I have MythMote set to that, but hitting keys I get "sendto failed: EPIPE (Broken pipe)
[17:28:24] quantum1: Firewall for the server is complaining that the tablet tried to access port 7 ?!
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[17:29:45] quantum1: Never heard of it. Why a privileged port?
[17:30:36] tgm4883: quantum1, you should probably find the developer of MythMote and ask them
[17:34:20] quantum1: tgm4883: OK. I've opened 7 and same error. Looks like it's tom8oe AT gmail.
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[17:37:02] sphery: anyone have any contacts at Gossamer-Threads? If so, might want to tell them their DB is borked (and has been for days). Any search returns "
[17:37:06] sphery: Error: Non-existent table specified"
[17:37:19] sphery: we've had a couple users wondering why they can't keep up
[17:39:03] Steve-Goodey: Is it still possible to setup the default recording profile to have before and after time extensions to recordings?
[17:40:17] sphery: Anyway, I sent them a contact us email
[17:40:50] sphery: Steve-Goodey: no, you can't do like you used to
[17:41:02] Steve-Goodey: I've done, Setup, Video, General Time to Record Before/After but I don't think that works if recording are one after the other.
[17:41:20] sphery: Steve-Goodey: you have to do it right, now... You create a Default recording rule template, and specify /any/ options you want to use for any new recording rule you create
[17:41:48] sphery: i.e. start early/end late, recording group, storage group, commercial detection, transcode, ...
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[17:42:16] sphery: and you should put Time to Record Before/After back to a reasonable value (i.e. < 60s)
[17:43:25] sphery: Steve-Goodey: then you can create another recording rule template for Movies and specify the recording group Movies and low priority... and so on
[17:43:38] sphery: then when creating new rules, you can apply whichever template you like
[17:43:43] Steve-Goodey: sphery: rule template is that in mythtv-setup?
[17:43:50] sphery: no, frontend
[17:43:57] sphery: Manage Recordings
[17:44:01] sphery: Recording Rules, IIRC
[17:44:15] sphery: should see buttons allowing you to create the template
[17:44:36] sphery: note, also, that IIRC, mythweb still doesn't support it, so you don't get the defaults if you use mythweb to create rules
[17:45:21] Steve-Goodey: sphery: Got it. Just needed a kick up the bum to find it, thanks very much.
[17:45:42] sphery: Default is the template that's used for all new rules
[17:45:53] sphery: and when creating a rule, you can choose to apply another template
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[18:05:56] sphery: wow, quick response from Gossamer... they've fixed the DB already
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