Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Sunday, April 15th, 2012, 00:02 UTC

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kisak:

I found what was causing my half-speed playback problems

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kisak:

I have 2 playback groups, Default and Movies, the time stretch for Default is set to 100 and the time stretch for Movies is set to (Default), all recordings in the Movies category were getting the time stretch value of 50 somehow from the (default) option

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kisak:

I'm running 0.25rc-106

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kisak:

hmm ... time stretch is the problem, at least one of the recordings I was testing the problem is in Default

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kisak:

ah, but it is in the "Movies" Playback group

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** Beirdo grumbles at C++ templating... again **

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dekarl1:

fugg: yes, the channel scanner will figure out the tuning details for all transports once you guide it to any transport (well, that's the theory at least)

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Beirdo:

oh, yech!

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skd5aner:

Beirdo: yea, I think it'd be fun to play around with the AIS stuff, would be fun if there was similiar ATC stuff too, but that's a lot more guarded

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Beirdo:

not really

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Beirdo:

it's all public standards-based last I looked

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skd5aner:

well, I don't know how you'd get the radar data... and TCAS, ttbomk, isn't really the equivalent to AIS... but honestly, I only know of the concepts, not really what it would take to hook into the systems themselves

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skd5aner:

obviously, you can get any of the radio transmissions

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Beirdo:

I looked at it briefly... once I make an SDR, I'll consider playing with that too

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skd5aner:

cool – keep me posted if you go that route

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skd5aner:

kinda in to aviation myself

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Beirdo:

I like to tool around with radio stuff, it's interesting just how much crap is being transmitted

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skd5aner:

heh – yea – it's amazing that it works at all, honestly...

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skd5aner:

I mean, I understand why it works, but still a marvel that it actually does work

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skd5aner:

(that much going on across all the spectrums and within the same spectrums)

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Beirdo:

heh, yeah

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Beirdo:

Oh, this will be fun to test

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Beirdo:

just tore the recordedtypes to shreds and reassembled

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Beirdo:

oh look, more to fix :)

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Beirdo:

heh

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skd5aner:

huh? "Hotmail couldn't send your message because the server was busy. Please try again later."

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xris:

grumble. now to figure out how to make mythtv re-download artwork.

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skd5aner:

xris: heh – have fun, it's sorta worked for me

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skd5aner:

but when it doesn't, it can be a bit perplexing as to why

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skd5aner:

even when you try to manually override it

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xris:

there's a problem finding thomas & friends shows on tmdb. so I have to manually apply the inetref

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xris:

it then found the title/subtitle, but still won't download artwork

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wagnerrp:

it doesnt try to download the artwork

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wagnerrp:

it just gets the text metadata

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xris:

what triggers the artwork download?

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wagnerrp:

nightly run through the housekeeper

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wagnerrp:

there is a separate option in mythmetadatalookup that does the artwork in bulk

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jm|laptop:

0.25 is nice. :)

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: does the job download artwork for future recordings?

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skd5aner:

so that, by the time they record, the artwork is there and ready?

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xris:

wagnerrp: ah, gotcha

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xris:

seems a little odd that it doesn't download it like it does when a full autodetect works (W in mythvideo)

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skd5aner:

xris: was just doing that 5 mins ago and thinking the same thing

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xris:

I need to fix the lookup thing so it finds my kids shows, too.

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skd5aner:

and, for whatever reason, when I did a scan for changes it re-added about 50 videos that were already previously there, so I lost all the metadata and artwork associates for some TV seriers/seasons :(

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xris:

now that we're not in feature freeze, and robert isn't around to bitch me out for changing his work

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wagnerrp:

i dont know why it was split in that manner

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wagnerrp:

xris: how are the lookups failing?

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xris:

I forget the specifics. need to go look at the debug output again

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: well, one thing I noticed, I had setup a lot of my TV shows ripped from DVD to match the parsable filename format...

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xris:

I vaguely recall that in some cases it was keeping underscores from filenames in the search

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skd5aner:

but some episodes were actually 2 broadcast episodes as 1 on the disc...

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wagnerrp:

youre talking about videos then, not recordings

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skd5aner:

so, for example SEINFELD_s04e02-e03 are episodes 02 and 03, but in the same file... and I named the file that based on the recommendation of Robert, as the parser would at least be smart enough to know that it was Seinfeld Season 4, Episode (and ignore the e03 part)

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skd5aner:

But, now it parses it as SEINFELD S04 as the title, then season 02 episode 03

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wagnerrp:

the plan is that such things would likely be corrected after the schema revision

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wagnerrp:

once the schema allowed for multiple videos to point at a single file

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skd5aner:

well, I don't even care about that (yet, although that will be extermely nice)

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skd5aner:

all I are about is that it takes the basics, and doesn't totally screw it up... right now, it parses compeltely wrong, thinking title = "Seinfeld s04" season = 2 and episode = 3... whereas in 0.24, it would parse it at least in a way that was usable Ttle = "Seinfeld" Season = "4" and Episode = "2"

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skd5aner:

s/all I are/all I care

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wagnerrp:

yeah, it completely barfs on multi-part filenames currently

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xris:

wagnerrp: yeah. always talking about videos.

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: anyway to at least fix it in 0.25 so that it parses the same way it did in 0.24?

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wagnerrp:

it changed?

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skd5aner:

yes, that's what I said above

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** wagnerrp is a bit scatterbrained currently **

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wagnerrp:

well if anything changed, it would have been the regular expression

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skd5aner:

np :)

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wagnerrp:

its been so long since 0.24, hard to remember when that was last modified

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xris:

wagnerrp: yeah, robert changed something a few months ago

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xris:

at least I think it was robert

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skd5aner:

SIENFELD_s04e02-e03.iso... in 0.24 – Title = "Seinfeld", Season = "4", Episode = "2" ... in 0.25, Title = "Seinfeld 04", Season = "2", Episode = "3". 0.24 was correct, at least by the fact that it parsed what it saw from the start and ignored anything after the first season/episode was found in the string

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skd5aner:

er, remove .iso... and replace with .mkv

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skd5aner:

at least, in my case

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skd5aner:

and I have no idea why mythvideo re-added several videos to my library that were already addeded prior ot the ugprade

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wagnerrp:

the last change to the file parsing code i can find is dab53474 in march 2010

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xris:

skd5aner: yeah, that's what I'm seeing, too

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skd5aner:

oh well, I'll see if the metadata stuff works over night

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wagnerrp:

i made some changes to the selection behavior in the tmdb grabber

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wagnerrp:

but that wouldnt have affected television lookups

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xris:

I'll try to remember to look into it tonight

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xris:

need to go do something yardwork-like before it gets too dar.

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xris:

dark

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: I think the issue is the regex... because it is before any lookup of external sources

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wagnerrp:

however the current regex is exactly the same as in 0.24

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skd5aner:

ah, yea... that's true

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skd5aner:

weird

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skd5aner:

Don't know – because I added that videos sometime within the last 5 months using 0.24-fixes... and it parsed it ok then (used W in mythvideo)

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skd5aner:

that said, the whole season 4 of Seinfeld had already been added to mythvideo long ago, so no clue why it "re-added" it during a scan for changes – losing everything that was already there

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: you still around?

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wagnerrp:

aye

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skd5aner:

what determins when mythmetadatalookup runs?

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wagnerrp:

the jobqueue and the housekeeper

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skd5aner:

ok... so how do those determine when to run it?

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skd5aner:

(and how often it runs)

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wagnerrp:

the job gets triggered as soon as the recording starts, runs as soon as it comes up in the queue, and pulls text metadata

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skd5aner:

I'm playing in the log viewer in the backend webserver... and I can only see one instance of mythmetadatalookup running

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wagnerrp:

the housekeeper task gets a time frame, and follows a statistical curve

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wagnerrp:

it has a 0% chance of running when the window starts, and a 100% chance of running when the window ends

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skd5aner:

any way to check what the window is?

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wagnerrp:

the code, i dont know off hand

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wagnerrp:

ill get a link...

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skd5aner:

well, I meant within the jobque?

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skd5aner:

as in, to see if it gets triggered and what the window for running within is set to

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wagnerrp:

http://code.mythtv.org/browser/mythtv/mythtv/ . . . per.cpp#L323

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wagnerrp:

looks like full 24 hour window

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wagnerrp:

runs once per day

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skd5aner:

hmm, that link doesn't opne for me?

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wagnerrp:

http://code.mythtv.org/trac/browser/mythtv/my . . . per.cpp#L323

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: well, it's been 47.5 hours since the last time it ran for me... and it is enabled in the job-queue screen on my mbe in mythtv-setup

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wagnerrp:

the job will run as soon as there is a slot in the jobqueue

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wagnerrp:

and requires that one of the hosts is allowed to run it

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skd5aner:

but, my mbe allows 5 simultaneous jobs, and the queue usually isn't at capacity

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wagnerrp:

and is set to run that task?

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skd5aner:

and, the job doesn't appear in my job queue (should it?)

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wagnerrp:

it should, yes

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wagnerrp:

the recording rules must be configured to run it

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skd5aner:

yea, it's not showing in the queue (using mythweb status screen to check)

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: ok, so this is where I had some confusion with stuartm yesterday, based on what is mentioned in the wiki and what existing recording rulesl ook like...

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skd5aner:

!url logs

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MythLogBot:

logs: http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/1

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/1/2012-04-13 &ndash ; 22:25:31...

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skd5aner:

through 22:51:14

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skd5aner:

I'm just not sure what stuartm was saying is correct

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wagnerrp:

i dont think it is

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skd5aner:

could you confirm/deny?

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wagnerrp:

since the recording rule stores the absolute setting

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wagnerrp:

AFAIK, those default settings are only applied during creation of the rule

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skd5aner:

yea... the "override" really isn't an override at all, it's a default setting for new rules

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skd5aner:

yea, you and I agree on the same interpretation then it sounds

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skd5aner:

So, basically... if I do a SQL update and set 1 on all rules for autometadata, do you think that'll help solve the issue?

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skd5aner:

Would be way faster than going through a ton of rules one by one via the UI

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wagnerrp:

should work

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skd5aner:

well, another thing... I did set Fringe up to "1" prior to recording yesterday, but I'm not sure it ever got the artwork, of course I deleted the recording :/

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skd5aner:

If I set up a test recording right now, and make sure that's set to 1, should I see a mythmetadata task pop up in the jobqueue?

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wagnerrp:

when you delete a recording, you delete all record of the jobqueue

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wagnerrp:

aside from the logs

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skd5aner:

(assuming I put an inetref in)

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wagnerrp:

fringe is sufficiently unique that it shouldnt need an inetref to operate

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skd5aner:

BTW – the log view in the backendweb server shows me nothing for mythbackend logs

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skd5aner:

it does show me logs for the other applications

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skd5aner:

K – I just kicked off a single recording of "Without a Trace" and click the "Look Up Metadata" option

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BobLfoot:

Are there any known bugs with Hauppage HVR1600 Analog Audio and myth-0.25 — I'm not finding much relevant on google, but can't get my audio to work, video is ok, BTW this card has worked in 0.21 thru 0.24 just fine.

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skd5aner:

"Look Up Metadata" is in the jobqueue, good sign

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skd5aner:

BobLfoot: as in, the recordings aren't recording with any audio, or you're not able to playback recordings via mythfrontend and hear audio?

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BobLfoot:

as in LiveTV from the analog tuner has no audio, same for recordings from that tuner. LiveTV and Playback of recordings from the digital tuner is no problems

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: metadata lookup complete, but the interesting thing, is it doesn't show any log information? Does it not log anything?

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wagnerrp:

it should log just as any other jobqueue task

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fugg:

hmmm, frontend will upgrade video-schema in db however, backend is the same version.......sane ?

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: I'm referring to the log viewer in the backend webserver :6544

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wagnerrp:

do note that the log viewer in the backend web page filters per application

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skd5aner:

yea, I'm looking at the mythmetadata application

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wagnerrp:

mythmetadatalookup would be a different application

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skd5aner:

right, but it ran... so shouldn't it log something?

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skd5aner:

ah... I see what's going on here...

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skd5aner:

(I think)

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wagnerrp:

looking at the wrong hostname?

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wagnerrp:

i see logs on my end

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skd5aner:

yup :S

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skd5aner:

I thought I told mythtv-setup to not enable that kind of job on that sbe

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: it was enabled, but I just went and disabled it – I don't really run jobs there since it's my primary frontend too

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: I, still however, see nothing for backend logs when I select mythbackend as the app

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skd5aner:

(on one backend)

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skd5aner:

on the other backend, I do see logsit appears

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skd5aner:

wagnerrp: btw, did you catch the teaser for next week's fringe?

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wagnerrp:

yes

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skd5aner:

was it just me, or did that storyline kind of come out of nowhere?

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skd5aner:

not just the observers, obviously, but their intentions

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wagnerrp:

i didnt find it all that surprising

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wagnerrp:

perhaps not their intentions

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wagnerrp:

but the fact that they would be key to the series ending arc

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skd5aner:

s/just/

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skd5aner:

yea... I knew they would eventually have to bring them to the forefront

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skd5aner:

btw, I really like the Dr. Jones storyline

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jheizer:

Missed the teaser, but was a good episode

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jheizer:

I wonder how long till Lincoln is hooking up with other Olivia

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Beirdo:

thou shalt not give spoilers

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wagnerrp:

dumbledore dies

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wagnerrp:

and bruce willis is a ghost

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jheizer:

not a spoiler or anything from the next episode preview

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jheizer:

just a guess

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fugg:

so i solved the half problem by reducing the ringbuffer, master works ok, but slave-tuners (change source) giving a black screen and stalling frontend...........nothing in the salves backend-log and femon showed the tune/function ok.

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wagnerrp:

Beirdo or xris: around?

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Beirdo:

yeah

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xris:

yup

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xris:

though I can't promise sobriety

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wagnerrp:

mediawiki is reporting a crashed database table

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Beirdo:

gack

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xris:

crap, that might have been me. I upgraded the db and something crapped out in the middle

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Beirdo:

uh, what?!

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xris:

yum issue

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xris:

thought I'd fixed it

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xris:

repair/optimize should fix things

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Beirdo:

I'd better check the bot's db then

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wagnerrp:

sobriety issues during system administration?

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Beirdo:

repair/optimize there takes 2h or so

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xris:

really?

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Beirdo:

yes

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xris:

wow

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xris:

wagnerrp: saturday night, kid finally asleep. was time for some Dogfish

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Beirdo:

rebuilding indexes on like 600MB of text...

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xris:

grumble, where's my auto-optimize script.

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Beirdo:

running check tables on the bot's tables now

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Beirdo:

Oh thank God.

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Beirdo:

| beirdobot.irclog | check | status | OK

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xris:

repaired/optimized everything in the wiki

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Beirdo:

ahhh

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xris:

css is still off

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Beirdo:

beirdobot is OK db-wise

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xris:

looks like some misconfiguration in the wiki now

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xris:

wtdf

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xris:

wtf

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xris:

ok, fixed

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xris:

wagnerrp: thx.

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xris:

very strange. "optimize" is supposed to repair first. but it doesn't seem to.

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wagnerrp:

xris: i could repair the db as well as any admin monkey, but i figured it would be better if someone who actually knew what was going on took a look at it

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wagnerrp:

in case it indicated something else

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xris:

nah. it's just myisam being stupid

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xris:

and probably me screwing something up with the upgrade

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Beirdo:

heh. these things do happen

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Beirdo:

which is why (at work) we still have MySQL 5.0 on some products

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Beirdo:

upgrades on production data is scary :)

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xris:

mysql is pretty easy

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Beirdo:

heh

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Beirdo:

I have a coworker who'd disagree wholeheartedly :)

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Beirdo:

but then again... those dbs are just gargantuan

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Beirdo:

GAH

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Beirdo:

hurting my brain again

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wagnerrp:

you should punish it

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wagnerrp:

with liquor

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Beirdo:

hehe

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Beirdo:

that would not be wise

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Beirdo:

I need to be sober tomorrow morning ;)

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sunkan:

Hi, I'm having trouble getting mythnetvision to work in 0.25. It crashes when I press 'm' to bring up the menu and add a subscription. Known issue, or something that I have missed?

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fugg:

wagnerrp, eh, solved 75% of my issues, strange thing was reducing the ringbuffer helped a low. but actually i have one tuner on the slave which still has issues, i know the backend-setup works only if i set it to a specific core, are there any recent changes to not support multiple cores in the backend ?

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fugg:

s/low/lot

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fugg:

BAH, THAT FREAKIN' KERNEL was the problem :( . ok, little warning to some users..........any kernel between 3.0 and 3.3 has it's issues, mostly related to timing/network/BlueTooth. actually i found 3.1.4 is more reliable than 3.3.0 for backends.

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EagleIJoe:

hey everyone

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EagleIJoe:

still stuck at the 0.25 backend not coming up ...

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EagleIJoe:

it looks like it has something to do cards

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EagleIJoe:

when running mythtv-setup and selecting add new card, it hangs … same if I want to edit an existing card

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sannes:

fugg: Hey, what kind of problem did you discover with the kernel? I have nagging feeling I might have a kernel issue at my end as well related to timing or interrupts or something..

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airikka:

Hi! When i'm running "mythfilldatabase" I get a "FillData, Error: xmltv returned error code 256". I have never got channel lists working and mythweb says "No TV Configured". Anyone?

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EagleIJoe:

airikka: you have run mythtv-setup and configured cards aswell as inputs right?

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airikka:

EagleIJoe: I have two cards configured and inputs. I can watch live TV in frontend, but I can't do scheduling and stuff

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EagleIJoe:

so there is no EPG data?

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airikka:

Yes, that's the problem

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airikka:

I believe

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airikka:

EagleIJoe: My /var/lib/mythtv/.xmltv/tv_grab_se_swedb.conf is empty... should it?

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EagleIJoe:

not really … read up on setting up xmltv

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azertyul:

hello anyone

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azertyul:

well, i just followed this tutorial, seems not working properly

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azertyul:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Dreambox-NetworkRecorder

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azertyul:

can anyone helP ?

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sulx:

are there ready 0.25 mythbackend packages for deb squeeze yet?

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azertyul:

anyone there ?

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azertyul:

lolo

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airikka:

I don't get it.. what's wrong? here's some output from mythfilldatabase -v all -> http://pastebin.com/98DDAJJP

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azertyul:

Hello

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EagleIJoe:

airikka: it seems the sql command to update the lastrunend time does not complete correctly … is you DB schema up-to-date?

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azertyul:

this wiki is obsolete http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Dreambox-NetworkRecorder

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dekarl1:

airikka: nickelodeon does not provide EPG data for the swedish station currently, its being looked into. See also http://xmltv.tvzon.se/xmltv/00index.html its missing over there, too.

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dekarl1:

And the other issue is likely that mythfilldatabase, when run from mythbackend, expects the xmltv config at ~<mythtvuser>/.mythtv/<name of video source>.xmltv while the grabber, when run manualy, defaults to ~/.xmltv/tv_grab_se_swedb.conf

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dekarl1:

If you run Mythbuntu you might end up with mythtv-setup storing the config at ~<frontenduser>/.mythtv/<name of the video source>.xmltv which is a third location. I have symlinked the configuration between ~<frontenduser> and ~mythtv

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dekarl:

Azelphur: How is the wiki obsolete? Can you update it or add some information to the talk page?

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dekarl:

Azelphur: sorry, stupid autocompleten, that was for azertyul who has apparently left

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anykey_:

In the video library, all my files show up two times... I had file browse mode enabled in 0.24, could this be a left-oer?

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anykey_:

*left-over

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airikka:

EagleIJoe: how do I check if my DB schema is up-to-date?

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EagleIJoe:

airikka: check backend logs

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EagleIJoe:

did you upgrade from 0.24?

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EagleIJoe:

if it is a fresh install then you are fine

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airikka:

EagleIJoe: "Current MythTV Schema Version (DBSchemaVer): 1264"

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airikka:

It's a fresh install from debian-multimedia repo

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airikka:

I use backend on one machine and frontend on other machines

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StevenR:

hrrm. mythfilldatabase has stopped updating (usually I have 14 days with the UK RT grabber, but it's now 11 days) ... running manually as my mythtv user doesn't make a difference :S

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EagleIJoe:

airikka: schema should 1299 if I am not mistaken

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EagleIJoe:

on a 0.25 install

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anykey_:

StevenR: my uk_rt grabber does not work anymore too... well, mythfilldatabase doesn't, running it manually collects all the data fine

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airikka:

EagleIJoe: "dpkg -l --> ii mythtv 0.24.2–0.1"

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EagleIJoe:

okay …

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EagleIJoe:

then the schema is correct

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sphery:

anykey_: perhaps? Or you have a "local" path specified in settings for mythvideo directory and a Videos storage group or something?

[12:04:13]

anykey_:

sphery: I did a 'delete from videometadata' now it's fine

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sphery:

anykey_: generally, the fix is to point your Videos SG at some empty directory, rescan, then point it to the right place and then rescan

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sphery:

you should do it ^^^ ... there's more than just videometadata that needs cleaning

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anykey_:

ok

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airikka:

dekarl: I have tried to link and copy back and forth without success

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airikka:

EagleIJoe: when it says "xmltv return error code 256", do you know which application is being executed? I would like to read the code and see what's happening.

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EagleIJoe:

airikka: nope

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StevenR:

anykey_: actually, looking at what the xmltv grabber dumped, there's no new data to add :S

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anykey_:

StevenR: yeah, mine was a problem with the video source name, had some weired characters in it

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EvilGuru:

Hmm, the RadioTimes only seems to have XMLTV data until the 26th (11 days)

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StevenR:

EvilGuru: yeah, that's what I'm seeing too

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EvilGuru:

I wonder if it is a technical problem or if they are finally ditching the service

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anykey_:

hm, is the 'Retrieve all details' job run on the frontend or the backend?

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anykey_:

because nothing happens here, and nothing is in the logs too

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anykey_:

manually running tmdb.py on the frontend works, though

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scar3crow:

about to setup mythtv... will need some help plz

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scar3crow:

help pls

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scar3crow:

cannot connect to backend, and all tuners are busy

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scar3crow:

seriously.... there's only 167 of you

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_abbenormal:

like we have nothing better then sit right here to service you

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BobLfoot:

Is anyone else having issues in 0.25 with getting sound on analog LiveTV an Recordings from an HVR1600 — My Digital Tuner works fine — can't seem to find that magic bullet to resore analog sound.

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StevenR:

EvilGuru: there actually doesn't appear to be any data beyond 26/04/2012 on radiotimes.com either.

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Twiggy2cents:

Is there a way to get the season/episode number to show on the all recordings screen?

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wagnerrp:

change to a theme that displays the season/episode number

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Twiggy2cents:

Darn... I was hoping you werent going to say that. I like arclight too much

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wagnerrp:

arclight displays season and episode numbers in the 'watch recordings' screen

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Twiggy2cents:

Hmm mine only does on the specific show filters

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Twiggy2cents:

The all programs filter is what I wish showed it

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wagnerrp:

then likely the programs at the top of your list when showing all programs do not have season and episode numbers to display

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wagnerrp:

because they have numbers here

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Twiggy2cents:

Doh

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Twiggy2cents:

I suppose I should update the rules to grab metadata like the wiki says

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mifritscher:

hi

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mifritscher:

is there a way to debug analog-TV issues? It seems that the scanning is broken in 0.24/0.25.Its a SAA7133 based pcmcia card using the pal-standard. scantv+xawtv runs fine

[14:01:55]

wagnerrp:

scanned directly? not recording through an external set top box?

[14:03:40]

mifritscher:

its a plain tv-card for the pcmcia slot – the antenna cable is directly connected to it

[14:04:37]

mifritscher:

(I'm using analog cable tv)

[14:04:52]

dekarl:

EvilGuru: ditching of the current XMLTV radio times service is not expected before the next DST switchover. By then Nick's new grabber for the atlas API of the radio times service should be released. If anybody is good at java and wants to implement a frontend compatible to swedb/nonametv that would be appreciated.

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wagnerrp:

why java?

[14:05:52]

trumee:

wagnerrp: do you have any plans of updating the 0.25 ebuilds?

[14:05:56]

adamu:

did they finally get the issues worked out with live t?

[14:05:57]

wagnerrp:

nick morrott?

[14:06:13]

wagnerrp:

trumee: yeah, i keep getting distracted with other things

[14:06:52]

trumee:

wagnerrp: thanks, i will continue keeping an eye on the repo then.

[14:06:59]

Twiggy2cents:

what number is the tvdb id? I am trying to manually set it for a show

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BobLfoot:

oh joy – time to rewrite all my job scripts from 0.24 to work with 0.25

[14:07:20]

dekarl:

airikka: did you ever add the xmltvids to your channels and disable EIT collection for them? Its easy to do via mythweb's channel editor with the channel list of swedb or the configuration in another window.

[14:07:35]

wagnerrp:

BobLfoot: eh? they should all continue to work just fine

[14:07:46]

dekarl:

wagnerrp: because the upstream site is written in java and yes, that's the nick

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BobLfoot:

nope wagnerrp 0.25 no longer supports -c and -s it requires --chanid and --starttime at least for mythtranscode and mythcommflag which should become mythutil if I read the errors I am getting correctly

[14:08:46]

wagnerrp:

why need it be written in java to interface with a java web server?

[14:09:01]

EvilGuru:

wagnerrp: Might be using something like RPC

[14:09:45]

wagnerrp:

dekarl: or do you mean its dynamic client-side javascript?

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dekarl:

wagnerrp: thats the code that produces the radiotimes feed for _uk_rt https://github.com/atlasapi/atlas-feeds/tree/ . . . /feeds/xmltv

[14:10:02]

dekarl:

and if you want to emit another format at the upstream site, then its easiest to not add another language into the mix without good reasons :)

[14:10:27]

wagnerrp:

oh, youre talking about the opposite direction

[14:10:31]

dekarl:

The idea was to switch to full xmltv instead of a tab delimited fixed format

[14:10:47]

wagnerrp:

having the website output XMLTV directly, rather than a script process the website into XMLTV

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EvilGuru:

I guess this new fancy API is what has broken the film ratings ;)

[14:11:15]

EvilGuru:

wagnerrp: It outputs something that is basically CSV

[14:11:22]

BobLfoot:

wagnerrp: it's minor stuff, just frustrating, similiar minor changes were needed when I went 0.23 to 0.24 cause ffmpeg had changed how it handled presets.

[14:11:25]

dekarl:

exactly, so we can harvest as rich information as possible from the site without unneccesary restrictions due to multiple conversions in the pipeline

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EvilGuru:

http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/32.dat for example

[14:12:02]

dekarl:

EvilGuru: nah, the film ratings are not in the upstream data the gets imported upstream. see the atlas mailing list ;)

[14:12:15]

dekarl:

s/the gets/that gets/

[14:12:39]

dekarl:

basically its completely different data in the same format

[14:13:10]

wagnerrp:

BobLfoot: mythcommflag for manipulating the skip/cut lists?

[14:13:43]

EvilGuru:

dekarl: Do you know why RT are still offering the data?

[14:14:11]

EvilGuru:

I mean I think a lot of people would be willing to pay a small subscription for it and it must be costing them something

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dekarl:

EvilGuru: I think its because they are nice and because they beliece in good data mashups. After all its basically originating from the BBC. (historically now) and they are mashing up their own data with shared metadata for BBC music, too. Now they are heading the same way with iPlayer & co.

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dekarl:

Of course they get free QA for their data, too.

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airikka:

dekarl: the problem is that mythweb just says "No TV Configured" since it does not find any channels. Therefore I can't access the channel editor via mythweb

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BobLfoot:

yes wagnerrp – sorry for the late response I am at $dayjob and also working remotely to home system

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dekarl:

airikka: google hints that this message means you have no channels configured at all. does LiveTV work?

[14:58:08]

dekarl:

hmm, ok. You already said LiveTV is working, strange

[14:58:09]

airikka:

dekarl: yes, livetv works

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justinh:

EvilGuru: I dumped uk_rt the other week & haven't looked back

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dekarl:

justinh: dumped in favor of eitonly?

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justinh:

yup

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justinh:

so I lose star ratings, but those were only ever from hacks anyway

[15:07:32]

dekarl:

how many days of EIT do you get? (ming to add it to the wiki?)

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justinh:

up to 8

[15:07:48]

dekarl:

do you still get actors?

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justinh:

don't care

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justinh:

*know or care

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justinh:

wouldn't think so

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dekarl:

just asking as EIT has some key:value function, but I never saw it used (small DVB-C providers exempt)

[15:08:49]

justinh:

mythtv can't exactly use all of that kind of information to the full anyway

[15:09:26]

** justinh has stopped fuming at the whole digital audio output thing & admitted default. 0.25 is just far better than 0.24 in other ways **

[15:09:36]

justinh:

s/default/defeat

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justinh:

as for opengl video on i945.. HAHAHA why did I ever seriously expect that to work? I must've been smoking something

[15:12:16]

EvilGuru:

I really did try to switch to EIT only when I reformatted my MythTV box a few weeks back but just could not stand it

[15:12:47]

justinh:

there's just too much data, and that makes the scheduler slower

[15:12:58]

justinh:

stupid A4 page descriptions

[15:13:24]

justinh:

sometimes generic, sometimes not.. make their mind up. At least EIT seems consistent

[15:14:54]

EvilGuru:

EIT for me marks "Songs of Praise" as news

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** lis0r wishes she could make it just report blocks like that as being "Closed" **

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EvilGuru:

Although it is possible that Freesat has very different EIT from Freeview

[15:15:54]

justinh:

the categories suck. you're right about that

[15:16:15]

dekarl:

and there is no movie/series indication (besides the seriesid)

[15:16:25]

justinh:

no matter to me

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justinh:

uk_rt will go away soon. we all have to assume that

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lis0r:

?

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dekarl:

justinh: it will?

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justinh:

I reckon. market forces & all that

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justinh:

I know what the new outfit said, but companies are always doing stuff like that

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dekarl:

justinh: i don't think so

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dekarl:

they have more to win from collaboration than they have to lose

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justinh:

win? by giving away free data? LOL

[15:19:05]

dekarl:

they are not giving anything away that can't be gotten another way

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airikka:

dekarl: mythweb machine information says "Last mythfilldatabase run started on 2012-04–15 17:12:01 and ended on 2012-04–15 17:12:05. FAILED: xmltv returned error code 256.

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airikka:

There's guide data until 2012-04–30 03:30 (15 days)."

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lis0r:

isn't radiotimes published by the beeb?

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EvilGuru:

lis0r: Was

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justinh:

dekarl: in the case of Radio Times, they are

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dekarl:

airikka: 15 days sounds about right, the error is likely due to some data not being present, e.g. (quoting your log) Failed to download data for kunskapskanalen.svt.se on 2012-04–20.

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lis0r:

poor :(

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airikka:

dekarl: exactly

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justinh:

lis0r: blame Murdoch

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justinh:

& all the other 'The BBC do too much that our companies don't do as well' moaning buggers

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dekarl:

lis0r: its been put into its own data mashup company

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lis0r:

pff, I blame the establishment

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lis0r:

it's as much the governments fault as it is private industries

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lis0r:

(as if they're not the same thing anyway – ohohoho)

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justinh:

same difference when you're talking about this government

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lis0r:

this government?

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justinh:

Tory bastards & their cronies

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lis0r:

been the same for donkeys years

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justinh:

this government, that government...

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justinh:

the other government. In the UK, same difference

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lis0r:

current democracy is nothing but a theatrical show to distract the populace from their golden chains of slavery

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EvilGuru:

justinh: The other one raised taxes; at least these guys are cutting them

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airikka:

dekarl: but my frontend does not agree on that there are 15 days of guide data. When I go into "schedule recordings"->"Program guides" I get "You don't have any channels defined in the database"

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lis0r:

doesn't matter if the puppet's on the left hand or the right hand, it's still just a puppet

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dekarl:

airikka: "there is guide data until xxx (15 days)" and the "no guide" don't fit together...

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justinh:

funny how all the new bills that never got through last time come back. Kinda makes you think it's civil servants pushing the buttons

[15:23:23]

airikka:

dekarl: Note that I'm using the frontend on another computer. Maybe I'm doing something wrong

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justinh:

airikka: you using a digital tuner and xmltv? Ho ho ho.

[15:24:00]

airikka:

justinh: yes...

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lis0r:

airikka: you told it which channel from the guide data equals which channel from the tuner?

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justinh:

airikka: a common mistake is to do *exactly* as mythtv-setup says & run mythfilldatabase after scanning & getting all yer channels. As if by magic, mythfilldatabase will then run uk_rt & populate your channel table with a bunch of channels from uk_rt, all of which have good guide data. Which would be great, except you can't *tune* to those channels or record from them

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dekarl:

airikka: you don't have a second master backend running on the forntend by accident, right?

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EvilGuru:

airikka: Setting up XMLTV is something of a nightmare

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airikka:

lis0r: I was going to do that in mythweb, but I don't see those options since mythweb thinks I don't have any channels

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EvilGuru:

First write yourself an xmltv channels file and stick it in /home/mythtv/.mythtv/<Input Name>

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airikka:

dekarl: nope, since I can watch livetv and have the DVB-T-cards on the backend machine, I think it should be correct

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dekarl:

strange

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EvilGuru:

Then use something like phpmyadmin or mythweb to set the xmltv id's

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airikka:

EvilGuru: I have a xmltv-channels file in .mythtv/Sweden.xmltv and mythweb does not allow me to see my channels as told before

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EvilGuru:

airikka: Rescan?

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dekarl:

airikka: your DVB-T video source is named "Sweden"?

[15:27:47]

airikka:

EvilGuru: I don't know how many times :)

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airikka:

dekarl: yes. Don't ask me why... lack of imagination or something

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dekarl:

airikka: try running this and post the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/931197/

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dekarl:

it will output lines like this one: 5597: 121000000 dvb 9999 111 19113 BLUE MOVIE 2 (UnityDigital TV) ()

[15:30:23]

dekarl:

hmm, picked a bad example, but you get what I mean ;)

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airikka:

justinh: Yes, but shouldn't I then get something on my program guide... even if it was not correct for my location?

[15:31:10]

justinh:

airikka: no

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justinh:

airikka: because xmltv & mythtv are about as well integrated as oil & water at the mo

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airikka:

:)

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justinh:

it's all a hangover from the US users having their EPG data grabber provide tuning data for them too

[15:32:36]

justinh:

xmltv has never provided tuning info in Europe

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airikka:

justinh: so, what's the correct rutine then?

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justinh:

see the wiki

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justinh:

I ain't walking anybody though that

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justinh:

oh no, not the wiki. that's confusing as hell. what EvilGuru said :-)

[15:34:17]

dekarl:

oh, can you point out a page that is good?

[15:34:48]

airikka:

justinh: :-) I will jump into the wiki. I'll be back any day

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dekarl:

airikka: basically its "start with a fresh video source, connect it to you dvb input and run a channel scan, starting at a known good frequency and letting the scanner find the other transports"

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justinh:

dekarl: the wiki entry for UK'ers was fraught with running godknows what scripts & all sorts of hell

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justinh:

it likely still is.

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justinh:

anyhoo.. time to take my daft dog for a walk

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dekarl:

then add the xmltv configuration file you have (you only enabled the channels that you care about, correct?) and connect both by adding the xmltvid (either in setup or mythweb, which is not working for you atm :(, disable "use on air guide" while there

[15:37:19]

dekarl:

thats about it

[15:38:18]

dekarl:

so the hard part is figuring where the connectiong between guide / channels / frontend is broken

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hpeter:

hi, i'm having problems switching channels with my hauppage analog tv card since i did an update from the 0.24 updates repo some weeks ago. switching if successful at all takes 5 to 10 sec but most of the time doesn't work at all. another side effect ist that the sound often just plays noise.

[15:41:37]

hpeter:

i updated to 0.25 but still having problems

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hpeter:

any idea what i could check on?

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dekarl:

hpeter: is that with LiveTV or recordings?

[15:42:27]

hpeter:

with livetv

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hpeter:

manual channel switching with v4l2-ctl work without problem

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dekarl:

that might be a known issue, been seeing something about analog livetv chnnale switching iirc

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wagnerrp:

most of that should have been resolved by 0.25 though

[15:46:44]

wagnerrp:

there may be one or two open tickets remaining on trac

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hpeter:

do you remember which ticket that was?

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hpeter:

can't find any open tickets on that issue

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dekarl:

airikka: http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/1/2011-0 . . . -01-23:22:24 suggests that it might simple be an issue of mythweb finding the database

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airikka:

dekarl: thanks! I will look more into that later

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floh`:

hi

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floh`:

i have no DVB card. instead, i have different URIs on the network which provide the TV programme as streams. how can i use mythtv with that setup?

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tank-man:

floh`, this might help http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/IPTV

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dekarl:

floh`: currently udp and rtp receiption of transport streams is supported, works with rtsp signalling, too.

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floh`:

uhm. how do i set this stuff up?

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floh`:

i'm currently stuck with mythbackend not starting

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floh`:

it keeps telling me that there are no channel sources defined

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floh`:

i have created a "network recorder" device in thr config...

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floh`:

is that correct?

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wagnerrp:

floh`: youre likely going to have to resort to trial and error on that one

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wagnerrp:

there are only a handful of people who actually use the IPTV recorder

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floh`:

hrm

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wagnerrp:

so there's not a whole lot of people knowledgeable in its use

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floh`:

another thing: is mythtv commercial detection available outside of mythtv as well ;)?

[16:33:38]

floh`:

or are there any open libraries it uses or so?

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wagnerrp:

one of the devs intends to rewrite it for 0.26 or 0.27, to make it more reliable and easier to use

[16:34:02]

wagnerrp:

mythtv's commercial detection is run through the 'mythcommflag' binary, executed by the jobqueue

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wagnerrp:

if youre looking to reuse or revise the algorithms, theyre all contained within that program, not in any shared libraries

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floh`:

that's cool. can i feed raw stream dumps generated with mplayer -dumpstream into it?

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floh`:

or do they need conversion (i hope, only container- and not video conversion ;) )

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wagnerrp:

you can give it files, but not streams

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floh`:

it's a stream which has been recorded to a file

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wagnerrp:

and you have to give it some special command line arguments to get it to operate detached from the database on arbitrary files

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floh`:

it's in mpeg-transport-stream format i think. but it is a plain old file

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wagnerrp:

its really designed to work with recordings

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floh`:

well, that IS a recording.

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wagnerrp:

i mean it has to be a mythtv recording

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wagnerrp:

defined in the database as something mythtv recorded

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floh`:

hrm...

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airikka:

floh`: you said that you don't get backend working due to "no channel sources defined". I'm just curious; can you explain in more detail what you did do in "mythtv-setup" on the backend?

[16:42:05]

floh`:

i created a "tv-card": that network stream thingy. nothing more i think

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wagnerrp:

you need to go through steps 2, 3, 4, and 6

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wagnerrp:

create the "card" in 2

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dekarl:

floh`: what format are your streams in and how do you access them?

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wagnerrp:

create a source to hold your channels and guide data in 3

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wagnerrp:

map that source to the input on the card in 4

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wagnerrp:

define your storage in 6

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wagnerrp:

i dont know if the channels will be automatically created from the m3u

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wagnerrp:

you may need to add them manually in step 5

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dekarl:

wagnerrp: the channels are automatically created from the m3u

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dekarl:

and if the xmltvid is specified in the m3u the mapping is setup automatically, too

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BobLfoot:

yes wagnerrp – sorry for the late response I am at $dayjob and also working remotely to home system

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wagnerrp:

you already said that

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dekarl:

floh`: for non-mpeg-transport stream sources I used to do it like this: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User:Dekarl/How_to . . . ke_a_Freebox

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BobLfoot:

yeah sorry about that I am in too many windows and triggered that response accidentally

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floh`:

now i'm getting another error

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floh`:

when exiting, it says "tv card 1 (type mpeg2ts) should start at the sender request send, which does not exist" (sorry for the rough translation ;) )

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floh`:

how to fix that`

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dekarl:

floh`: add channels to your video source and pick one as starting channel for each card

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BobLfoot:

wagnerrp: you don't have any insights on Hauppage HVR1600 Analog Tuner sound issues do you? I can't seem to get sound in LiveTV or Recordings from the Analog Tuner since upgrading to 0.25 ??

[16:52:15]

wagnerrp:

do you get any sound manually capturing off /dev/video0?

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wagnerrp:

you can manually capture with `cat`

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BobLfoot:

I'll try and see BTW in my case its /dev/video3

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wagnerrp:

are you sure about that?

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wagnerrp:

they can shift around on reboots

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BobLfoot:

i've got video0, video1, video2 and video3 not to mention video27 and video35 any easy way to chase /dev/videox back to a card?

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wagnerrp:

check the kernel logs (dmesg)

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wagnerrp:

you may be able to do so though sysfs as well

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wagnerrp:

or lspci

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wagnerrp:

27 and 35 mean youve got an older PVR-150 or such, with framegrabber capture support

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wagnerrp:

i dont believe the -1600 will produce those

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floh`:

meh... now i'm doing a sender-search and it tells me: IPTVChanFetch, Error: Invalid header in channel list linIPTVChanFetch, Error: Invalid header in channel list line: "EXTINT:0,TV 1-2–3.tv"

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floh`:

what's wrong now?

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wagnerrp:

looks like the m3u playlist is invalid

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BobLfoot:

wagnerrp: could be the machine came with an 1850 and I added the 1600 that I bought at best buy, but Hauppage was rumored to have boxed 150 as 1600 iirc

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wagnerrp:

what are the two other cards?

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wagnerrp:

and it was the opposite

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wagnerrp:

they boxed 1600s as 150s

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wagnerrp:

but that was back in like 2007

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BobLfoot:

Allegedly I have an 1850 and 1600 in this unit

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BobLfoot:

lspci

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wagnerrp:

shortly after the ban went in place to stop the sale of analog tuners without digital capability

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BobLfoot:

lspci reports for 1st card 01:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23418 Single-Chip MPEG-2 Encoder with Integrated Analog Video/Broadcast Audio Decoder

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BobLfoot:

and for the second card 02:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23887/8 PCIe Broadcast Audio and Video Decoder with 3D Comb (rev 0f)

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BobLfoot:

strange wagnerrp iirc from dmesg video2 and video3 are both from the HVR-1600 guess I should try video2 and see if I get sound.

[17:04:59]

wagnerrp:

that shouldnt be, unless youve got some udev rule producing a duplicate

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BobLfoot:

like I said iirc and I think now it's jsut video3 thats 1600.

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BobLfoot:

dmesg | grep cx18–0 output is pastebined to http://fpaste.org/ZqR1/

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wagnerrp:

you'd be better off hanging around for one of the linuxtv guys

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BobLfoot:

wagnerrp: do I read corrctly that video3 is the video but video27 is PCM audio??

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wagnerrp:

the higher nodes are for manual raw capture

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wagnerrp:

but AFAIK, the -1600 doesnt actually support those modes

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wagnerrp:

!seen devinheitmueller

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MythLogBot:

devinheitmueller was last seen 1 day 19 hours 4 minutes 47 seconds ago

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** BobLfoot wonders if the firmware is up to date and should be checked ?? **

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BobLfoot:

2007/03/12 ?? wagnerrp is that suspect

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BobLfoot:

well wagnerrp — lunch is over gotta get back to $dayjob. Thanks for the help

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dekarl:

floh`: your m3u should look like the sample at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User:Dekarl/How_to . . . ke_a_Freebox with the last three lines repeated for each channel

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tgm4883:

I just noticed there is a tmdb3.py and a tmdb.py. Assuming that the tmdb3.py written by wagnerrp is the new one and probably the one I should be using, where is that located in the frontend?

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tgm4883:

or perhaps, the metadata lookup is supposed to be built in and I'm not suppose to set these scripts anywhere

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dekarl:

tgm4883: I can select something in the frontend -> configuration -> artwork and datasources -> tv: (retranslated back to english)

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tgm4883:

dekarl, I've looked in there and it doesn't seem that I can change the paths to that

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tgm4883:

just select different options

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tgm4883:

I'm guessing the setting was removed in 0.25 as it's done with mythmetadatalookup now

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tgm4883:

I actually just found http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Enhancing_Recordin . . . adata_Lookup

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tgm4883:

so I'm going to take a look in mythtv-setup

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wagnerrp:

tgm4883: use which ever one shows up in the scan for supported grabbers

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tgm4883:

wagnerrp, there is a scan for supported grabbers?

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wagnerrp:

in the UI, where you select the grabber

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allesmueller:

Hi, I face severe futex waits on mythtranscode using with fifodir (being on 0.25) strace shows about 83.33 % time lost there

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tgm4883:

in the frontend?

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wagnerrp:

yes

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tgm4883:

I didn't see any way to scan

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wagnerrp:

its done automatically

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tgm4883:

ah

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wagnerrp:

it searches for anything executable in that directory

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tgm4883:

hmm

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wagnerrp:

and runs '... -v' against it

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tgm4883:

I see

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wagnerrp:

supported grabbers must return a brief string giving version information and naming

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wagnerrp:

the necessary bits to do so in tmdb3.py are commented out

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wagnerrp:

so mythfrontend ignores it

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airikka:

Now I'm getting really pi$"#^";! Both mythfrontend and mythweb is saying that I don't have any channels installed. But LiveTV works. xmltvid is inserted in database (http://pastebin.com/5hqA29er)... I'm really out of ideas now. I have tried several hours.... and if I some day will get this working, it will be due to something simple that I have overlooked and then I will rip my hair off ;-)

[20:37:02]

** wagnerrp heads back out **

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tgm4883:

wagnerrp, good to know, now just to figure out why yours is crashing on this system

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tgm4883:

which is why it didn't show up in the interface I suppose

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wagnerrp:

likely because ive only been testing the underlying library, rather than that script

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wagnerrp:

and at some point, theyve diverged

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tgm4883:

ImportError: cannot import name CacheEngine

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wagnerrp:

https://github.com/wagnerrp/pytmdb3/

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tgm4883:

looks like we may have some dependency issues

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wagnerrp:

no, there are no dependency issues

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wagnerrp:

that is an internal utility

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wagnerrp:

there is a copy of that external repo in mythtv/bindings/python/tmdb3/

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tgm4883:

then it should be able to find it right?

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wagnerrp:

should be, yes

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tgm4883:

hmm, I don't have any mythtv/bindings dir

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wagnerrp:

but as mentioned, i probably made some changes in the library, and forgot to correct the script in response

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** wagnerrp really heads back out **

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tgm4883:

I'll hunt around, thanks wagnerrp

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justinh:

airikka: try a £SELECT name, xmltvid, mplexid FROM channel;" instead

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justinh:

airikka: that will tell us if the channels with names & xmltvids were actually scanned

[20:51:58]

justinh:

oh you should also check they're set to visible so maybe add the word visible to that query too. If any are '0' that'll be invisible which might be why myth thinks there are non

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airikka:

justinh: http://pastebin.com/wMETp8vK

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airikka:

sorry, did not read your following comment. I will also check if they are visible

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justinh:

all have mplexids. seems happy

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airikka:

justinh: http://pastebin.com/UaeGwLap

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justinh:

ruh? visible is 127? I thought the schema for that was a boolean

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airikka:

justinh: could you verify that yours are 1?

[21:01:26]

justinh:

ah it's a tinyint

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justinh:

select visible from channel where visible>1; Empty set

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airikka:

ok ok.

[21:02:40]

justinh:

as far as I know visible is '1' by default & wouldn't get set to 127 by anything

[21:02:43]

airikka:

maybe I will try to update to 1 instead of 127 then

[21:03:02]

airikka:

I haven't done it manually either ;-)

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justinh:

although most db checks would just have gone from a non-zero value.. but you never know

[21:05:12]

airikka:

justinh: YAY!

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airikka:

That was the problem... now It's solved! :)

[21:05:51]

justinh:

no it isn't

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justinh:

how the HELL did it ever get set to 127?

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airikka:

well... that's another problem ;-)

[21:06:14]

justinh:

did you use any fancy scripts to help populate channels?

[21:07:03]

airikka:

no, not to populate channels

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justinh:

for anything?

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airikka:

justinh: in my hunt for a solution, I did try two shell-scripts from this site: http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /207831.html

[21:08:16]

justinh:

see this is why the regulars in this channel generally frown upon people messing with the database themselves – on the commandline, via phpmyadmin, scripts from some John's blog.. it's mad mojo

[21:08:51]

justinh:

and also why the developers are looking at moving the database inside mythtv in future ;-)

[21:08:57]

justinh:

one of the reasons anyway

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lautriv:

can anyone provide some good modelines for Samsung LED-TV ? (mine is UE37B6000 but that should not matter that much)

[21:10:39]

justinh:

so I guess somewhere in the code, nothing is sanity checking the values for that column – which is fair because it should only ever be 0 or 1

[21:12:13]

justinh:

airikka: nothing in those scripts messes with the 'visible' column so it's still a mystery what happened

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airikka:

sorry, my connection went down

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airikka:

justinh: in my hunt for a solution, I did try two shell-scripts from this site: http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /207831.html

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airikka:

but those two scripts does not update any visible afaik

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airikka:

justinh: I'm really not any mysql expert... but this tinyint.. is it signed or unsigned? If signed... 127 should be the same as -1

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justinh:

airikka: I saw that. I dunno if a tinyint is signed or not. either way it should only be 0 or 1.

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justinh:

the default – i.e. for a new channel insertion.. is 1. the user would have to set that to 0 through either the UI or mythweb. There should be no other way to do it

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gratuit:

I just upgraded to 0.25 and liveTV is not working. I see the error message "Client speaks protocol version 63 but we speak 72!"

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justinh:

whoops. you've got old stuff lying around

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justinh:

when you say 'upgraded' what do you mean?

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justinh:

did you install new packages, compile from source... ?

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gratuit:

Archlinux, upgraded the packages

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gratuit:

though both mythfrontend and mythbackend appropriately report 0.25pre as the version and Network Protocol 72

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jams:

gratuit- did you restart mythbacked/mythfrontend?

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gratuit:

multiple times

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jams:

k.

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justinh:

did you run mythtv-setup after installing the newer packages?

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gratuit:

I have not, is that necessary?

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justinh:

I always make sure to :-)

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justinh:

makes sure any I'm aware of any schema updates on the backend

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oobe:

I am thinking about getting a new mobo with radeon amd APU one thing that turned me off was no vdpau but I just read there is vdpau support now using something called gallium3d is this true? does mythtv 0.25 support it?

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justinh:

heh. One word for ya. Nvidia

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justinh:

it's still the only mature & stable video acceleration platform for linux let alone mythtv

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EvilGuru:

oobe: What he said

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oobe:

yea that is what has always been the case but its looking like things are changing

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EvilGuru:

It is possible that in a year or so VAAPI w/Intel cards will be almost as mature as VDPAU w/nvidia

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oobe:

amd released a new open source radeon driver

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EvilGuru:

I do not believe they are developing the video decoding stuff, however

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oobe:

plus I really like the idea of having this new mobo/cpu combo

[22:04:47]

EvilGuru:

Indeeed I do not think that any docs for the UVD have been released

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oobe:

ok so there is no current support that is probably all I need to consider

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oobe:

I think I will still get one :P

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EvilGuru:

The nvidia drivers also do a very good job at deinterlacing video

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justinh:

I really like the idea of driving to work in a powerful sportscar tomorrow

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justinh:

oobe: well, you can't say nobody told you

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justinh:

when you get to 9 months down the road & there's still no accelerated video decoding for it :P

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EvilGuru:

I believe the deinterlacing also has to come as part of the package, too

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EvilGuru:

little point getting the hardware on the GPU to decode some video if you're going to have to push it back to the CPU for deinterlacing

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justinh:

not sure there's an easy way to get decoded video back anyway

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** justinh wonders what acceleration Intel HD GPUs offer (allegedly) **

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EvilGuru:

I'll have to find out how deinterlacing works on some of the Intel chips with hardware decoding

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oobe:

if worst comes to worst I just wont use the apu video and just use one of my nvidia cards

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oobe:

but I would prefer to not block existing expansion slots

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justinh:

EvilGuru: all I know is, I get smooth flash playback now. No tearing on my laptop YAY!

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EvilGuru:

I installed flash on my Linux desktop for the first time last week — was 100% awesome

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EvilGuru:

Turns out that Adobe added an avatar mode to video playback XD

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justinh:

dunno about in linux, but I couldn't care much less about anything non-win7 on my laptop

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EvilGuru:

Windows 7 is the only OS that does a decent job with compositing — as in you can have a 100% tear free experience

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justinh:

I needn't have bought that new desktop machine. turns out core i3 just eats files from my camcorder. I can play 2x 1080i AVHCD streams at the same time, and colour correct etc

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EvilGuru:

oobe: Are you planning on playing back HD material at all?

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justinh:

for linux, in my experience Nvidia is the only way to be

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EvilGuru:

And by HD I mean /real/ HD, so 10mbit/s+, possibly interlaced

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justinh:

ATI hardware historically has had better quality VGA outputs, more control in (Windows) drivers & sometimes even linux binary drivers.. but that's when you get lucky

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justinh:

since we went DVI/HDMI... analogue signal quality isn't an issue.. and nvidia are really good (compared to ATI) at supporting their own hardware on linux

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EvilGuru:

I remember when VGA-out quality was actually something to care out

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EvilGuru:

*about

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justinh:

yeah I bought a AIW card & VGA crispness blew away my old 3dfx card

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justinh:

pity the tv tuner never really worked. stupid vfw drivers

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EvilGuru:

I'll never forget my friend trying to do a VGA => SCART mod on an old ATI card

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justinh:

I remember wrestling with trying to get a nvidia svideo output to fill the screen properly. took me whole *days* before I twigged you were bound by things other than modelines if using TV out

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justinh:

fun times. not

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oobe:

EvilGuru, yea but I use vdpau now and if I was using a radeon hd APU card I would probably just switch to one of the other playback profiles its not a big deal on a multicore box

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EvilGuru:

There is multi core and there is multi core

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EvilGuru:

Pre VDPAU there was talk of needing on the order of a 2.4Ghz Core 2 to decode HD

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EvilGuru:

Not much nowadays by desktop standards but for some low power devices it is still a fair amount

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justinh:

APU. they should call it the kwik-e-mart method

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justinh:

hmmm I shouldn't have deleted my HD test files

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oobe:

opengl high quality seems to play back fine

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oobe:

and if I upgraded my board it would have a higher speced system anyway to power it

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oobe:

ah there is some tearing with fast motion

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EvilGuru:

That will be vsync

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EvilGuru:

Usually not too hard to fix but is complicated by having compositing enabled

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justinh:

opengl on my rubbish i945GM board looks very smurfy

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justinh:

hey I built from source... maybe I could hack it

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justinh:

definitely a colorspace issue. I think GL should be RGB but it's being given YUV. Or something

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EvilGuru:

justinh: I think shaders are used to perform the colourspace conversion in hardware

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justinh:

oh. Shaders? I don't think i945 has those :P

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EvilGuru:

I'll have to find out what Intel thing is in my thinkpad

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EvilGuru:

GMA X4500HD, apparently

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oobe:

I switched deinterlacers to greedy high motion on the opengl high quality profile and it works well no tearing still hardly any cpu usage

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EvilGuru:

I think I used to use 2x YADIF when I was using CPU based decoding

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oobe:

http://almostworkingcode.wordpress.com/2010/0 . . . nd-amd-xvba/

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oobe:

I put yadif as my backup deinterlacer

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EvilGuru:

Right, I best be off, want to be up nice and early so I can short EUR/USD in the morning

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kisak:

could someone running trunk or 0.25-fixes check something for me?

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kisak:

please go into a recording rule -> schedule info -> Previously scheduled. does it show results or is there a "E DB Error (LoadFromOldRecorded):" on stdout?

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justinh:

wife says the t9 text entry needs to come back

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kisak:

http://pastebin.com/pnvdrD3H this is what I'm seeing on my end with 0.25-rc-106

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justinh:

kisak: nope

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justinh:

your db may be hosed

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justinh:

though if the t9 text entry were to re-emerge it'd have to be conventional. i.e. not do silly things like the old one did

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Beirdo:

taxation blows

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Beirdo:

I had a feeling I'd owe this year, and I wasn't wrong

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kisak:

justinh: okay, thanks for checking

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justinh:

kisak: the db may not be hosed but you could have run into a max number of connections on the db or something. I dunno

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justinh:

kisak: you can check. select title, starttime from oldrecorded;

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kisak:

well first thing first, mysql has not hit the max allowed connections

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kisak:

^^ 10776 rows in set

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kisak:

oh, there's two WHERE clauses back to back in the query it's trying to run

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kisak:

but if it works for you I wonder if it's already fixed

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kisak:

yup, there it is https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/71a02 . . . 8de34e05c399

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fa2k:

hi, i have to stop the background a lot and put the computer to sleep, even when recording, is there a way to automatically discard incomplete recordings?

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fa2k:

the backend not background *

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