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| [07:47:28] | stuarta: | morning |
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| [14:10:40] | DevMythNotifyBot: | COMMIT: stuarta pushed 10 commit(s) to branch devel/http: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/compare/56d9 . . . 129fa26a6361 |
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| [15:49:09] | paul-h: | Remind me why the Dvr/GetRecordedList API includes LiveTV recordings? |
| [15:50:39] | paul-h: | It would be nice if there was an option to exclude those from the list returned |
| [15:51:44] | stuarta: | feature request without patch :-p |
| [15:51:48] | peterbennett: | paul-h: You can watch live tv that is being recorded by somebody else |
| [15:52:36] | peterbennett: | Also when watching live tv you can press the "Record" button on the remote that causes it to become a permanent recording |
| [15:53:29] | peterbennett: | You can exclude those by ignoring the LiveTV group ? |
| [15:55:14] | paul-h: | Don't you have to do that at the client end though? |
| [15:56:04] | paul-h: | 99% of the time you don't care about LiveTV recordings when you ask for a recording list to show to the user |
| [15:58:09] | paul-h: | It's more efficient to get the server to do the filtering and just send what the client asks for |
| [15:59:13] | stuarta: | is there no option to exclude certain groups? |
| [16:04:10] | paul-h: | Looks like you either get all groups or you can ask for one particular group – no way to exclude one though |
| [16:06:21] | peterbennett: | There is also the Deleted group you may want to exclude? |
| [16:06:40] | paul-h: | Yes I was wondering that |
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| [16:11:32] | paul-h: | The problem for any clients is even if this is fixed now it won't make it into mainstream until v32 so they either need to handle both old and new behavior or more likely add hacks to work with the older version and don't bother using the new one |
| [16:13:16] | paul-h: | That's what I was trying to explain on the developers list about getting the API right now because once clients start to use it it's hard to fix it later |
| [16:13:48] | peterbennett: | My client shows both Live TV and Deleted in their respective groups |
| [16:14:38] | peterbennett: | If you want to undelete you need to see the show you will be undeleting |
| [16:15:28] | paul-h: | So you do all the filtering on the client side? |
| [16:15:56] | paul-h: | What do you show for all recording? |
| [16:19:36] | peterbennett: | It excludes Deleted and LiveTV in All group |
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| [16:52:34] | paul-h: | The problem I have with doing it that way is it breaks the idea of the incremental downloads – OK if you just have a few hundred recordings it doesn't matter but if you scale that up to 20,000 music tracks things start to look a little different |
| [16:54:13] | paul-h: | You have to get the data for ALL the recordings and then sort and filter the list before you can show it to the user |
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| [16:56:14] | paul-h: | If you use incremental downloading the client says I need recordings 100 to 150 and the server does the sorting and filtering and only has to sent the data for 50 recordings much more efficient and the user has less time waiting to see something |
| [16:56:48] | peterbennett: | So you use the recording id for incremental downloads? |
| [16:57:25] | peterbennett: | I do not use incremental downloads. |
| [16:57:32] | paul-h: | The API supports paged downloads |
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| [16:58:09] | peterbennett: | oh ok I have not done that. |
| [17:00:19] | peterbennett: | I would rather speed up the download by excluding cast, which likely adds a lot of time to the download but I don't need it. |
| [17:02:45] | paul-h: | The way it should work is if you have a screen with a list or grid that displays 20 items you just ask the server for those 20 items you should not have to get the entire list just to show those few items which is what you have to do now |
| [17:03:39] | peterbennett: | I store the list on a local database and update it as needed. |
| [17:05:05] | paul-h: | Ah! OK that explains why you don't get what I'm saying |
| [17:05:50] | paul-h: | If you are doing that why not just use the Mysql database in the first place :) |
| [17:06:23] | peterbennett: | I want to only use the API for access. |
| [17:07:52] | paul-h: | I understand that that would be the ideal |
| [17:08:32] | peterbennett: | Also the sample app used a local database and I expanded from there. |
| [17:08:58] | peterbennett: | I only use the API, no access to mysql or the myth protocol |
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| [17:09:24] | paul-h: | How rude! |
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