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| [02:12:13] | Sabotender: | Zoinks! This new omni-directional antenna! |
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| [02:15:24] | Sabotender: | Mack: I don't understand these filter options at all. I had been reading the Wiki, and it directed me to enter some filter data in Video -> Settings -> Playback , but there is no place to type any data. Theres a form with drop-down list boxes, and other things, which I simply cannot make any sense of. Lol. I wanted to apply some filtyers, would be nice if I could make these changes though the web portal. |
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| [06:53:33] | mack: | Sabotender: some of the settings there change depending on what hardware/drivers are installed in your system. A lot of the filter system was removed a few versions back. These days filters are mostly not necessary with digital recording and playback. Only deinterlacing usually matters. |
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| [07:02:27] | mack: | If you're trying to fix the fuzzy transcodes you were seeing, make sure you ahve desired video resolution, High Quality profile, mpeg4 codec, high quality settings in your transcoding Recording Profile(s) |
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| [07:05:35] | Sabotender: | mack: The dig interlacing portion works, mostly. This new antenna significantly improved the quality of the signal, and my recordings are more clear. The problem is, these images seem a bit pixelated. I was hoping that I could use a filter to clean that up I don't know. I might be just overthinking it… I just really want to tweak this to make it brilliant. Commercial skipping is a bit wonky, but, there are fewer false positives, with a |
| [07:05:36] | Sabotender: | cleaner signal, thats for true. |
| [07:08:35] | Sabotender: | oh lol dig = de-interlacing |
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| [07:09:32] | Sabotender: | ! wow nice, I will examine that now. |
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| [07:14:04] | mack: | I'm assuming watching live TV is pixel perfect (except if you have bad signal it will drop out or garble)? |
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| [07:21:01] | Sabotender: | which resolution should I record these streams? |
| [07:22:10] | Sabotender: | hmm. LiveTV has slight pixelation. I think I made a mistake with the resolution portion. I'm not certain. |
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| [07:29:49] | mack: | for live tv, I don't think tehre's a resolution setting. I think it just displays the broadcast source resolution. |
| [07:31:22] | Sabotender: | ah, it's inside trans coders. This is where I make all of these settings for resolution, correct? |
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| [07:36:03] | mack: | Only if you want to lossy transcode the recordings. |
| [07:37:18] | mack: | I only do lossless transcoding to cut the file down by removing the commercials. I'm a snob when it comes to picture quality :) |
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| [19:19:37] | Sabotender: | Mack: Good gracious! How do I set it up for a Lossless transcode? |
| [19:21:25] | Sabotender: | because the wiki says that digital tuners cannot be trans coded, because they are already encoded. But, that is weird, there might be some post processing going on? |
| [19:23:21] | Sabotender: | its true, prob Strongly unnecessary, if the encoding comes in as mpeg2. Homerun tuners cannot have their encoding changed directly. There are several settings that simply cannot be changed. |
| [19:26:25] | Sabotender: | Oops, The video compression cannot be changed, which is both understandable, and a little weird. 😛 |
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| [19:37:42] | Sabotender: | Under transcoders and the image with and height, would, for example, "720p", or, "720i", be valid entries? |
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| [21:43:48] | mack: | 720p video is 1280 wide and 720 high |
| [21:54:58] | Sabotender: | Lawl, well this is weird! I am so confused. First, it seems that I can modify settings for HD Homerun recorders, but then it suggests that I cannot change the stream, because it will record it as it is. It's a digital stream… |
| [21:57:24] | Sabotender: | mack: aye, and that is the default setting. I am uncertain if I am able to change it to a higher resolution, like, 4K The wiki says that these are the default settings for this device. Perhaps, it is referring to generic Homerun tuners? |
| [21:59:04] | ** Sabotender chuckles politely. ** | |
| [21:59:35] | Sabotender: | perhaps, mythtv is downsampling |
| [21:59:41] | mack: | You can't change the incoming stream, no, but only what it saves as a Recording. |
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| [22:02:39] | Sabotender: | right, but I thought, in order to produce an image, mythtv must first record it to disk, and then it is read from the disk, and played back |
| [22:03:04] | mack: | correct, it buffers so you can pause, rewind, etc. |
| [22:03:48] | Sabotender: | hmm. I may have an immediate result, if I make this change to a higher resolution now, and go to live TV. |
| [22:04:04] | mack: | if transcoding is enabled, it then converts and writes that new file |
| [22:04:53] | Sabotender: | lol wow, no I'm really confused. |
| [22:05:34] | mack: | I'm not sure mythtv will do upscaling of the stream. |
| [22:06:11] | Sabotender: | so tell me. All of this transcoding tweaking, and setting change is meaningless? It seems that the default stream is mpeg2, and cannot be changed. |
| [22:06:11] | mack: | Most TVs have a setting to do that when they display the input. |
| [22:06:47] | mack: | upscale to tv native resolution^ |
| [22:08:10] | Sabotender: | this homerun tuner boasts 4k resolution, but it may be a gimmick. i'm not certain why I am receiving this level of pixelation, because, I have received better reception with my old hauppauge tuner (which does not work with linux or mythtv) |
| [22:09:17] | mack: | the mythtv transcoder outputs mpeg4 unless lossless is checked and it will output the original mpeg2 |
| [22:09:26] | mack: | at least to my understanding |
| [22:09:30] | Sabotender: | right, I reckoned that this culprit may have been because of something when they display settings in xorg but I'm no Linux guru. 😅 |
| [22:10:09] | Sabotender: | ! |
| [22:11:06] | Sabotender: | well damn, I don't want lossless, because mpeg4 generally produces better result? |
| [22:11:40] | mack: | the HDHR will output 4k when the TV broadcaster sends 4K (requires ATSC3) |
| [22:14:55] | mack: | mpeg4 will generally produce a smaller file size when transcoding. Lossless transcoding requires not changing from mpeg2 by definition :) Any transcode that is not lossless will result in some video quality degradation to some extent. |
| [22:15:12] | Sabotender: | yes, that makes sense. I am really not certain how to fix this. You know, I had better picture, when I had mine storage group mismanaged, and I had been pointing to the same directory that the tuner had directly been writing the live TV broadcast. That's why I had those mysterious vanishing recordings. Now, the vanished recordings problem is resolved. |
| [22:17:17] | mack: | mythtv transcoding is typically for cutting commercials, saving disk space for recordings, or converting to something for viewing on something that is not a tv or monitor. |
| [22:19:01] | Sabotender: | I only wanted it for commercial marking. I didnt/don't really want any special changes. |
| [22:19:27] | mack: | marking (commercial flagging) requires no transcoding. |
| [22:20:08] | mack: | I worded that wrong. Commflagging doesn't require transcoding. |
| [22:22:18] | mack: | transcoding comes into play if you want to then remove the commercials from the file. |
| [22:22:30] | Sabotender: | The HD homerun tuners recording profiles, no Setting can really be changed. Nothing except automatic transcoding. This doesn't make sense, because, they have all the same choices. This is why I am led to believe that I am only able to make any changes, modification come if I transcode the stream |
| [22:24:30] | mack: | In your case, I think you want to disable all the transcoding :) I think you would only be interested in disk space saving, but in reality the saving isn't that much if you want to keep excellent quality. |
| [22:26:46] | Sabotender: | saving disk space is my least worry; yes, I wanted the absolute best quality that I could get. Hmm I will disable transcoding. |
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