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| [01:16:59] | Sabotender: | I cannot fix these group permissions |
| [01:17:26] | Sabotender: | on the spindle drive |
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| [02:54:48] | Sabotender: | heh, well I ruined the permissions for mythtv, because it had been ignoring my external drive. erm. is everything supposed to be, including the system and all files, owned by mythtv? |
| [02:55:23] | Sabotender: | I am beginning to get this sense |
| [02:57:06] | Sabotender: | I will attempt a transfer of complete ownership to mythtv, recursively, giving it a root password, or just giving access. |
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| [04:33:14] | mack: | For *Ubuntu/Debian/mythbuntu ppa packaged versions of MythTV, each Storage Directory should be owned by the user running mythbackend, default is mythtv, and have permissions of 2775 |
| [05:42:45] | Sabotender: | huh. now, that is interesting, I was able to undo my modifications, but I may just need to give that hard drive owner of mythtv |
| [05:44:53] | Sabotender: | oh wait lol I wasn't reading what you were saying., my mind was going every which way. 😛 |
| [05:46:16] | Sabotender: | Ooh you just give me some juicy information. |
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| [13:14:23] | Sabotender: | does mythtv user need execute access |
| [13:18:25] | Sabotender: | I changed ownership of drive to mythtv user and group but I think I am gonna reinstall xubuntu with mythtv user to give root access for everything because this just isnt working |
| [13:19:06] | ** Sabotender frowns slightly ** | |
| [13:39:48] | Sabotender: | lol well that was a bust |
| [13:39:55] | Sabotender: | reserved name |
| [13:57:06] | mack: | Sabotender: yes, the mythtv user needs execute access, since it is the user mythbackend runs under. |
| [13:58:17] | Sabotender: | not sure why it does not. now my tuner is inaccessible. |
| [13:59:38] | mack: | even with vlc? also remember that any process that is actively using a tuner will effectively block access to that tuner by others. |
| [14:02:18] | Sabotender: | no tuners found on web interface |
| [14:03:50] | Sabotender: | also on gui app |
| [14:04:53] | Sabotender: | hmm |
| [14:06:34] | mack: | Things aren't really designed with link-local addressing in mind, so that might be causing you grief. |
| [14:11:15] | Sabotender: | it must not have access to my subnet. it would be odd to disallow direct connection to the computer using backend only setting but I will try giving mythtv execute access |
| [14:17:25] | mack: | the mythtv debs should have set permissions correctly. When you installed, did you use sudo? sudo apt install mythtv? |
| [14:18:54] | Sabotender: | yes, I tried to install using with just apt but it did not find the package iirc |
| [14:20:30] | Sabotender: | apt without sudo I mean |
| [14:20:37] | mack: | ah, good |
| [14:21:36] | Sabotender: | i'm confused. Did you want me to use sudo to install mythtv? |
| [14:21:40] | mack: | I should probably do a fresh mythtv install someday to see how the process is. |
| [14:22:35] | mack: | when you first added the mythbuntu ppa and then installed the mythtv package, that apt command should have been with sudo, yes. |
| [14:23:23] | Sabotender: | oh, phew. so pleased I did not make that blunder… |
| [14:27:01] | Sabotender: | I think part of the problem is that the network interface is set up for ethernet have my root account access, and every time I try to include the mythtv user, something breaks. |
| [14:28:20] | Sabotender: | the group access account has issues. Might be because the group account is also named mythtv |
| [14:29:55] | Sabotender: | but mythtv setup gave it that name the moment I tried to access the frontend app using my local user account |
| [14:30:41] | mack: | yes, user and group with mythtv is fine. |
| [14:31:05] | mack: | In fact, in ubuntu, your username also has a group named the same. |
| [14:32:59] | mack: | There's not much reason to enable the root user for this, btw. sudo from your user account is great for admin tasks. |
| [14:47:34] | mack: | I'm installing xubuntu LTS in a VM now to give a new install a go to see what's changed. |
| [14:49:06] | mack: | I should have given this VM more than one processor, lol. |
| [14:56:24] | Sabotender: | oh, haha i'm sorry for causing all this trouble. |
| [15:05:41] | mack: | no trouble for me at all. I'm happy to attempt to help. |
| [15:06:17] | mack: | xubuntu is installing at a reasonable clip now — I threw more CPU and RAM both at it. |
| [15:20:29] | Sabotender: | are you using that docker method for the install? |
| [15:25:02] | mack: | the same as you, but on a virtual machine running xubuntu LTS |
| [15:26:13] | mack: | steps I've done so far: Boot from xubutnu desktop CD iso, install xubutnu, chose desktop minimal install. Reboot. |
| [15:26:49] | mack: | sudo apt update. sudo apt ugrade. sudo apt install mythtv. That's going through now. |
| [15:29:14] | mack: | that finished. I verified that mythbackend is running with `ps aux | grep myth` |
| [15:35:42] | mack: | oops, I skipped typing a step here. I did sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mythbuntu/34 after the reboot. |
| [15:44:55] | mack: | (having to deal with calls for Mom's appointments, so will be pauses_ |
| [15:45:27] | mack: | my VM got an IP address from DHCP, so from my desktop, I went to http://192.168.17.178:6544/setupwizard/ |
| [15:45:55] | mack: | (if you do this from the machine itself, you could use localhost:6544 I think |
| [15:46:24] | Sabotender: | You are accessing the setup wizard to the backend? |
| [15:47:21] | Sabotender: | I accessed mine using ip and port since it is set as static |
| [15:47:22] | mack: | yes. So far, I've clicked Next> twice :) |
| [15:47:55] | mack: | I'm on General Backend Settings now. |
| [15:48:25] | mack: | From here, it should follow https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Setup_General |
| [15:50:47] | mack: | I accessed from my desktop instead of locally since my desktop is faster, plus the minimal xubuntu doesn't ship with a browser and I didn't feel like installing one :) |
| [15:54:52] | mack: | I chose the IP address from the dropdown, and left the hostname as default (I wouldn't do this for a real install). I clicked Next for all the other things, since I have no hardware, etc, etc then clicked Restart at the top. |
| [16:02:16] | mack: | ok, I clicked Enable Updates and clicked restart again. Logged back in and ran MythTV frontend on the xubuntu VM. I chose Yes to add the user to mythtv group (then sudo password) and then another Yes. Now it asked me to logout manually and back in., |
| [16:02:48] | mack: | I gave it a restart for good measure :) |
| [16:04:37] | mack: | I started myth frontend again and am greeted with that horrible blue UI :-) At this point navigate to Setup, then https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Configuring_Frontend |
| [16:10:34] | mack: | At this point, I have a fully working myth backend+frontend box. It's just not configured with tuners, video sources, storage groups, etc. I have to go to an appointment at the top of the hour, so I need to start getting ready. It takes quite a while to get Mom ready, lol. I'll be out for several hours, since I have another appointment taking a friend to his oncologist. May the patron saint of PVRs watch over you. |
| [16:30:53] | Sabotender: | Oh damn, sorry mack , got a call from a client |
| [16:30:58] | Sabotender: | heh |
| [16:38:14] | Sabotender: | Ah, read your message. I understand completely, and I thank you fall your help in all this. Its One of those, "challenge accepted" projects of mine, that will get daily use now that I discovered that I can receive these over the air signals despite living on a mountain. 😊 |
| [16:48:09] | mack: | woo, I got Mom ready with a little time to spare. Hopefully you have an irc client you can scroll up. |
| [16:49:34] | mack: | For TV broadcast reception it's better to live on a mountain that in a valley between two, at least. |
| [16:52:33] | Sabotender: | Oh yes, especially with those HD channels |
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| [18:34:39] | Sabotender: | I hope to fix groups and permissions . I will add execute privileges to the mythtv user |
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| [22:27:15] | mack: | if you would like to know the permissions of a certain directory or something, I can do an ls here. |
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