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| [12:39:49] | Sabotender: | Well, I have some good news, and some unfortunate news... |
| [12:40:53] | Sabotender: | The GOOD news, is that I believe I have successfully compiled,built, and installed mythtv for Debian,and it seems ready to go...but |
| [12:42:34] | Sabotender: | Those configuration instructions are insanely confusing. Directions ar mixed which seem to apply to those who are funning versions prior the most recent version, and there are most recent version instructions emmbedded in a tab that had been collapsed. |
| [12:43:47] | Sabotender: | I created the mythtv user, but I am not sure if I should run that script to create the database, because it seems that I could get it done from the backend setup |
| [12:44:24] | Sabotender: | but one section is telling me that I can never run the backend because it would close immediately because no adapters have been configured |
| [12:45:10] | Sabotender: | but another section is telling me that I could run the backend with newer verions, and get the databases setup there, and associate adapteras and whatnot. |
| [12:45:51] | Sabotender: | and UGH. Mythweb. Those instructions are mixed with portions that are telling me that I don't need them with newer versions of Mythtbv |
| [12:46:14] | Sabotender: | so I am avoiding setting up Mythweb |
| [12:50:57] | Sabotender: | and then I am trying to make it so the backend starts up with automation....theres an entire separate section doing it with systemd, so I carefully created the system file with default settigs, but then it mentions some very useful settings that I would have had liked to make aadditions to it, like making sure the backend is always running, even if it core dumps during a recording, and waiting for the adapters to become initialised, and |
| [12:50:57] | Sabotender: | making sure the network had been activated correctly, to ensure it all works well with the backend.... I am using this homerun 4K tuner, which is connnected directly to the htpc via local, direct ethernet connection, so I reconed that this would be important |
| [12:56:57] | Sabotender: | mack: I promise ya mate, I am almost there...I just wish those instructions were a little better organised |
| [12:57:49] | Sabotender: | I have been looking but not sure how to start the backend. |
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| [18:39:26] | mack: | Sabotender, https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Build_from_Source has the steps in order. And yeah, mythweb is not completely necessary. The intention was to replace it with the internal web UI. |
| [18:44:01] | mack: | I'm guessing you've been reading that wiki page, since you've been talking about all the stuff there. At the end in Post Install Tasks after create the mythtv user, it discusses creating the database. Assuming you're installing the latest version, you can skip the section for versions prior to v34. Basically, have your database installed and running, go to the myth web ui, and it will give you the commands to set up the database. |
| [18:46:16] | Sabotender: | gracious my apologies for the delayed response. I was reading through some debug stuff from mythtv that I got from a web search |
| [18:46:51] | mack: | Then as the last sentence instructs, move on to configuring. Go through them one by one and set what you can. You can always go back to pages you aren't sure about. |
| [18:47:32] | mack: | no need to apologize .. IRC = delayed responses. |
| [18:48:12] | Sabotender: | mack: I cannot reach the backend web ui thing at port 6544 |
| [18:50:03] | Sabotender: | oh give me a mo and I will show you what I had been working on with pastebin |
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| [18:59:37] | Sabotender: | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/730e6feb/ |
| [19:01:49] | Sabotender: | mack: I hope I didn't do anything insane 😅 |
| [19:08:03] | Sabotender: | I ran that debug thing and it asked if I wanted to create that database… I was not certain if I should do so in that environment. |
| [19:08:58] | Sabotender: | I have not known if I should create it, because I thought I could do it if I can access the backend web address |
| [19:09:53] | Sabotender: | lol I am so scaryface |
| [19:13:40] | Sabotender: | Hmm So I think I should skip those debug things regarding skipping the data base creation |
| [19:13:48] | mack: | oh, you've installed v33 |
| [19:15:27] | Sabotender: | I used the best guide to compile from source and install under Debian as best as I could because I could not understand the instructions within the wiki |
| [19:15:29] | mack: | so you will not be skipping the Prior to v34 section of the wiki :) |
| [19:16:34] | Sabotender: | I thought I had installed the most recent version |
| [19:17:27] | mack: | you will need to make sure your mariadb (mysql) is working. Then create the empty database like this: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Build_from_Source . . . tabase_Setup |
| [19:19:31] | Sabotender: | wait a moment, that information may show from a demand. How can I report the version that has been installed? |
| [19:23:17] | mack: | the version is in the startup you pastebinned. |
| [19:24:25] | Sabotender: | ! |
| [19:25:10] | Sabotender: | I am truly astonished, that guide that I used was quite misleading, lol. Nevertheless, I will create that database now |
| [19:35:48] | mack: | Since the wiki has been an evolving document for years and has some branches to follow for distro-specific and version-specific instructions. It's like that grade school pop quiz where at the top it says, "Read through the entire quiz first!" then at the bottom is says to only print your name and then sit quietly for the rest of the allotted time. |
| [19:38:23] | Sabotender: | erm mysql does not seem to be running. And/or installed. |
| [19:38:35] | Sabotender: | hmm |
| [19:46:17] | Sabotender: | I think I must install mythweb |
| [19:46:37] | mack: | You shouldn't need to |
| [19:48:23] | mack: | mysql is one of the dependencies for mythtv. You need to have it installed, running as a service, and able do things as the mysql root user before you can create the database and then do mythtv things |
| [20:02:19] | Sabotender: | Failed to start mysql service, service not found |
| [20:02:57] | Sabotender: | phew. |
| [20:10:41] | Sabotender: | so now I think I will need to add a mysql script service so I can get it started |
| [21:00:18] | Sabotender: | i need to install mysql separately |
| [21:55:07] | mack: | if your deb package creation didn't install it already, yep |
| [21:56:03] | mack: | apt install mariadb should be fine for debian. It will do the start scripts and such |
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| [23:03:20] | Sabotender: | that is something new to me, I thank you for this info. I will try to install it now 😠|
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