| Friday, January 24th, 2025, 00:08 UTC | ||
| [00:08:15] | gigem: | Sabotender: I haven't followed the status of most tuners in quite some time. Having to compile drivers yourself these days is usually not a good sign. Unless the vendor is actively working with the Linux A/V driver devs, they tend to suffer from bit rot unless they're very popular devices. Be sure to pay attention to anything John Poet says on the mailing lists. He wrote the "external |
| [00:08:18] | gigem: | black box" tuner for MythTV that sometimes allows devices to be accessed from user space drivers that are easier to maintain. |
| [00:14:06] | Sabotender: | Ah, thank you very much for this information. I did perform a bit of research on it suggested use in Linux; one user said I could install something else but may be defeating my cord-aversion purpose. |
| [00:15:45] | Sabotender: | I want to use this as a DVR, with 0 interest in streaming. if I remember correctly, I would need to set up some type of blue bag, so it would stream to itself. I just wish, and hope, that this step could be avoided. |
| [00:18:10] | Sabotender: | also, I know that standalone DVR boxes are available, but, I prefer to be in as much control over my hardware, as I can. Also, this is a personal project for fun. |
| [00:21:07] | Sabotender: | I seem to recall that Ubuntu is best, and because my goto in love distro is Debian, reckon Ill need to save face and go toward maximum compatibility as possible. |
| [00:22:36] | Sabotender: | unless Mythtv works just as well under Debian. if so, please highlight me if time permits. I I really do appreciate all of your responses. |
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| [00:58:09] | mack: | I've always had better luck with multimedia applications with Ubuntu over Debian. |
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| [01:04:43] | mack: | btw, this doesn't bode well for that device: https://hagensieker.com/2023/12/31/mygica-a681b-tv-tuner-review/ |
| [01:05:16] | mack: | according to them, no one has been able to get that driver to compile. |
| [01:07:56] | mack: | as a general rule, if you want something that really works with linux, it will be listed here: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.12/media/v . . . s/index.html |
| [01:54:04] | ** Sabotender gasps ** | |
| [01:55:54] | Sabotender: | mack: please, I hope it's permissible for me to highlight you, but thank you so very much for this information. If I may be sincere, what I wanted was a 4K HDTV tuner, with USB connectivity. I can't make much use of PCI tuna cards. |
| [01:56:38] | mack: | that indeed, does summon me :-) |
| [01:56:45] | Sabotender: | ooh, but I am crafty, I will get it to compile 😛 |
| [01:57:29] | ** Sabotender frowns slightly. ** | |
| [01:58:25] | mack: | There are USB devices on that list. |
| [01:59:06] | Sabotender: | I appreciate your attention, but it is never mind tension too disturb anyone like this. I chose that tuna USP, because someone in the reviews said that they were able to compile the driver successfully for Linux, so it piqued my interest |
| [01:59:54] | mack: | also, the ATSC tuners on the market (and current broadcasts) are not 4K. |
| [02:00:18] | Sabotender: | with all that have been said, I will peruse that link immediately, and if I can, find a replacement over Amazon, I will alter my order. |
| [02:00:49] | mack: | If someone did manage to get the driver to work, that's good news! |
| [02:00:51] | Sabotender: | lol yes i know, its a gimmick |
| [02:01:00] | Sabotender: | and I'm falling flat on my face for it |
| [02:01:39] | mack: | You do, however, get what you pay for. I and many other recommend the Hauppauge tuners – they will be less of a headache. |
| [02:02:18] | Sabotender: | I have one, and I hate it. It is buggy on Windows, and it crashes 100 times per day and loses signal, though it's never my fault. |
| [02:02:44] | Sabotender: | I have the dual tuner USB. |
| [02:03:38] | Sabotender: | A while back, I tried to get it to work with mythtv, but was not even detected. This is why I am doing something different. I wanted to choose something that is proven to work, so I can just set up my new small HTPC come and be done. |
| [03:16:18] | gigem: | Sabotender: FWIW, I've used Debian at home for 30+ years, 22 of that with MythTV and never had any problems. Of course, I compile it myself. |
| [03:20:07] | Sabotender: | ! |
| [03:22:35] | Sabotender: | mate, that information is invaluable. in that case, when my new mini HTPC that I ordered arrives, I'm going to install Debian on it immediately. |
| [03:26:12] | Sabotender: | I just hope that if I have any problems, I won't get chided and be told that Ubuntu, why not 😛 |
| [03:28:00] | Sabotender: | gigem: please, which Debian kernel did you use because if I remember correctly, support can be very finicky and require a certain type of kernel to be used. |
| [03:28:41] | Sabotender: | swapping kernels after-the-fact can be a pain, so, I would like to gather more information. |
| [03:30:14] | gigem: | Sabotender: I use the generic, linux-image-amd64 packages. I've never had a need to use any other variation since I switched to 64 bit however many years ago. |
| [03:33:22] | Sabotender: | oh wow nice, so I would really only need to get that Driver compiled, and then hope everything works. Thank you for this |
| [03:40:46] | gigem: | If you're familiar with dkms (or similar), I suggest you check |
| [03:41:33] | gigem: | that out. I install the zfs and nvidia dkms packages for the 2 "external" drivers I need. |
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