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| [09:34:46] | markk_: | hampton: ok – I'll have a look. Just one more reason imho to remove the networkcontrol code :) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/projects/4 |
| [09:39:26] | stuarta: | i'm pretty sure there are valid use cases for it |
| [09:39:46] | stuarta: | if you were thinking of doing that, i'd ask out on the -users list who uses it and how |
| [10:02:49] | markk_: | stuarta: I've no doubt there are valid use cases for it – but we should be using the services api – which already replicates much of the functionality. probably around 2–3k lines of code – much of which duplicates existing handling – and leads to errors, as hampton demonstrated:) |
| [10:06:25] | stuarta: | true true |
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| [12:41:29] | hampton: | The network control code is the keyboard for my frontends. They live in a rack in the basement, and the network connection is infinitely more stable than an IR transmitter and an IR-USB dongle. Mapping remote key presses to simple strings seems easier than mapping them to json blobs or whatever I would need to do to use the services api. Does that even support sending key presses? |
| [12:43:02] | stuarta: | we have a tester! |
| [12:43:21] | stuarta: | i suspect not, but i believe that is what markk_ is proposing to make work |
| [12:43:43] | stuarta: | within the services api |
| [12:45:54] | stuarta: | even if the current code has to be converted to a shim to the services api |
| [12:47:14] | hampton: | That makes a lot more sense than killing it. |
| [12:48:00] | stuarta: | i believe it's the code duplication and the spaghetti nature of the original implementation that is the problem |
| [12:48:09] | hampton: | I think I would be ok with losing everything in the network control api except the 'key' command. Instead of sending 'play speed pause' I could just send 'key space'. The remote key ends up being a toggle instead of always pausing, but I could live with that. |
| [12:48:25] | hampton: | One person's opinion. :-) |
| [12:51:18] | ** hampton needs to dig into the services api and see how it works ** | |
| [12:54:34] | stuarta: | i hope you like data contracts |
| [12:55:34] | stuarta: | tbh. i have no feelings about the network control api one way or the other, i never have used it, nor do i plan to |
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| [13:07:27] | stuarta: | finally found the docs https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frontend_control_socket |
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| [13:20:07] | markk_: | hampton: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . ontend.h#L34 |
| [13:20:46] | markk_: | that should in theory work:) would be even better if we can get that properly integrated into a the websocket code etc |
| [13:24:18] | markk_: | hampton: and for a demonstration of that in action have a look at <frontend_ip>:6547 and follow the remote control link |
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| [14:02:10] | stuarta: | markk_: the frontend control code is effectively websocket type code, where you define your own protocol |
| [14:09:25] | markk_: | stuarta: yes – but if it *is* a websocket, we *could* feedback/update on current state, hook into current 'SendAction' support, remove that duplication etc (which ties into some of the stuff I've been doing on the high level player code – where we track changes to the player state, rather than interrogating state). |
| [14:10:11] | stuarta: | makes sense |
| [14:11:26] | markk_: | stuarta: which reminds me – the current myth websocket code uses a seperate tcp server and port. any views on whether we should just use the existing server and port? (a websocket is after all just an 'upgraded' regular tcp socket) |
| [14:14:34] | stuarta: | markk_: i'm in two minds about that |
| [14:14:55] | stuarta: | on one hand, it would be nice and clean from a client side, to be able to just "change protocol" |
| [14:15:01] | markk_: | stuarta: as am I :) |
| [14:15:18] | stuarta: | on the other hand, implementing protocol change in the backend, is effectively writing yet more of a webserver |
| [14:15:42] | stuarta: | right now the webserver simply ships files and/or services api responses |
| [14:15:43] | markk_: | the main problem I have with using a different server is that you then have to potentially duplicate code between the 2 |
| [14:16:26] | peterbennett: | I use "frontend control" for (1) script to check if FE is in standbymode (2) script to shut down FE (3) on Android FE to turn on verbose logging |
| [14:16:28] | peterbennett: | There is an android app mythmote that is a remote control and uses "frontend control". |
| [14:16:30] | peterbennett: | There is a screen in mythweb that uses "frontend control" to send keystrokes to a frontend. |
| [14:16:51] | stuarta: | there is a whole list of "app" in the webpage i listed earlier |
| [14:25:52] | stuarta: | markk_: tbh, i think combining the two would be secondary to separating out upnp/ssdp from the actual webserver part |
| [14:26:02] | stuarta: | and way down the todo list |
| [14:28:37] | markk_: | stuarta: I will see how this http server stuff looks – if I think it will be cleaner to combine the 2 then I'll get back to you. just thinking ahead re services type end points that *might* be a bit more dynamic |
| [14:29:36] | stuarta: | can we try to get the webserver stuff in it's own dir, even if that means renaming libmythupnp to something more appropriate |
| [14:31:35] | markk_: | stuarta: stuff so far is in libmythbase/http |
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| [16:26:06] | hampton: | Connecting to <frontend_ip>:6547 just gives me a 404 error. |
| [16:27:26] | stuarta: | isn't it the network control socket on 6546? |
| [16:28:40] | hampton: | Yes. 6547 should be the web services interface. |
| [16:28:56] | hampton: | I think. Its speaks html. |
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| [16:33:03] | hampton: | Interesting. 6547 works on my laptop. The 404 error was on my prod system. |
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| [16:50:07] | ** hampton wonders if he can find an existing control4 driver that uses http post that he can use as a starting point. ** | |
| [16:50:51] | hampton: | The problem is that I have to relearn lua and c4 driver development. |
| [16:57:13] | stuarta: | sounds painful |
| [16:59:15] | stuarta: | if it's any consolation, i've been relearning javascript :) |
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