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[11:22:56] stuarta: i found this the other night -> https://github.com/vime-js/vime
[11:43:08] markk_: stuarta: looks good
[11:48:38] stuarta: markk_: yep, could definitely be dropped into the work we are planning on backend webserver, and into mythweb if i could be bothered
[11:49:53] stuarta: been looking a *lot* into Svelte after stuartm mentioned it, and i'm really beginning to like it
[11:50:20] stuarta: i can see how we could use it to generate the css/js that the backend serves without requiring it as a hard build dep
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[11:52:05] stuarta: ie. build locally and checkin build artifacts
[11:53:26] warpme_: stuarta: re: vime – sadly not works in current safari....
[11:53:34] ** stuarta facepalms **
[11:54:00] stuarta: oh well, video playing directly out of the backend isn't really a primary goal of the work
[11:54:26] stuarta: hopefully by the time we do get to such "enhancements" it'll work
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[12:15:04] stuarta: warpme_: there is also an open issue saying it doesn't work with svelte, which is my current favourite implementation method
[12:17:40] warpme_: stuarta: just curious: what use case are you foreseeing for vime in mythtv?
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[12:23:24] stuarta: from earlier -> yep, could definitely be dropped into the work we are planning on backend webserver, and into mythweb if i could be bothered
[12:24:12] markk_: stuarta: I had a look at angular/svelte/react(?) etc and I much preferred angular to be honest. though I have no real idea yet how anything other than jquery/jquery ui works in real life.
[12:24:44] markk_: stuarta: does angular need to be built as well?
[12:24:59] stuarta: only svelte, the rest are client side rendered
[12:25:26] ** stuarta grabs some lunch **
[12:29:36] markk_: stuarta: imho that's a big positive for angular then. makes development/testing/customisation much easier
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[12:44:57] stuarta: markk_: i think there are ways to do this that mean it's not a concern
[12:47:06] stuarta: the development server for svelte rebuilds the css/js artifacts on change, so a symlink here and there to the install location would make it work
[12:49:07] stuarta: i dunno, still a lot of decisions to be made even about the design
[12:50:41] stuarta: let alone the framework
[12:55:59] stuarta: markk_: when you opened the issue to remove QtScript, did you mean the QtScriptEngine class as well? that doesn't appear to be deprecated
[12:59:39] markk_: stuarta: isn't QtScriptEngine part of QtScript?
[13:01:08] markk_: stuarta: it's also worth noting that we could use QJSEngine – but that means a dependency on qml – which seems unnecessary
[13:01:31] stuarta: https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qscriptengine.html
[13:03:46] markk_: QT += script
[13:13:54] stuarta: probably is then
[13:14:09] stuarta: tbh, i'd like to see everything go through the services API
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[13:32:18] stuarta: markk_: i saw QJSEngine, tbh, it makes more sense just to have the internal webserver be a simple thing which ships JS/CSS etc, and provides the API endpoint, and its the JS/CSS which glues it all together
[13:33:09] stuarta: "shutting the stable door after the horse had bolted" came to mind when i read QJSEngine
[13:33:19] stuarta: (the webpage about it)
[13:33:28] markk_: stuarta: exactly my thinking – move the scripting to the client
[13:33:54] markk_: stuarta: I think QJSEngine is part of the base for QML
[13:33:59] stuarta: probably
[13:34:29] stuarta: "For new code, use QJSEngine and related classes in the Qt QML module instead."
[13:35:10] stuarta: QJSEngine myEngine;
[13:35:10] stuarta: QJSValue three = myEngine.evaluate("1 + 2");
[13:35:18] stuarta: why, seriously qt, why???
[13:35:31] stuarta: just pointless
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[13:40:38] markk_: stuarta: heh – it's just the hello world of QJSEngine
[13:42:44] stuarta: :-p
[13:43:04] ** stuarta finds the big fat black marker and crosses out QJSEngine **
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[14:09:59] stuarta: bah, the media server needs surgically separating from the web server component
[14:22:04] stuarta: and Qt, you suck for never providing a webserver component, leaving people to roll there own for over 10 years
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[16:39:14] hampton: stuarta: I just tweaked the rules for the tidy builder and restarted the build server.
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[18:19:25] stuarta: hampton: ack np
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