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| [02:03:17] | cybrNaut: | how can i find out the filename for a video in the media library? I see the date and time of the recording, but there is no filename with that timestamp. |
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| [10:56:54] | stuarta: | jpabq: you can push your change btw |
| [10:57:08] | stuarta: | rsync has now been cutover |
| [10:58:10] | stuarta: | wtf do some clients still use the old ip address for themes? clearly some ISP's cache the info for far too long |
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| [14:11:55] | cybrNaut: | woah, looks like mythTV has been dropped from Debian |
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| [14:12:33] | kwizart: | any reason why ? |
| [14:12:48] | stuarta: | erm, it never was in debian due to ffmpeg licensing |
| [14:12:53] | cybrNaut: | not sure.. maybe i'll look into it |
| [14:13:11] | stuarta: | or more correctly, patent exposure |
| [14:13:48] | cybrNaut: | ffmpeg is in official debian repos, it seems. Or perhaps i've added a repo i forgot about |
| [14:22:59] | kwizart: | is this a disabled version that is in the repo ? IIRC debian have removed most encoders like if encoder would be more exposed than decoders ... |
| [14:28:44] | cybrNaut: | "judd> Package: mythtv on amd64 — stretch-multimedia: 0.28.2-dmo1+deb9u1;" |
| [14:28:55] | cybrNaut: | that's what the bot in #debian shows |
| [14:29:15] | stuarta: | that's well old |
| [14:30:03] | cybrNaut: | it's confusing, because the #debian channel does not generally support anything unofficial. But there is both an official Debian Multimedia team (https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia) and a separate unofficial "deb-multimedia.org" |
| [14:30:30] | stuarta: | one of those used to carry mythtv, pretty sure it was the unofficial one |
| [14:31:14] | cybrNaut: | what's stable? is that Buster now? there is also: "buster-multimedia: 30.0+fixes20200514.gitc6b20b072e-dmo1+deb10u2;" |
| [14:35:50] | cybrNaut: | my notes show that I installed mythTV as far back as Debian wheezy, but i didn't note how (if I took an unofficial path). I just know that the package was lost in one of my dist upgrades on or before Lenny. |
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| [14:41:34] | cybrNaut: | i really just need the mythTV front-end, and i'd prefer not to get it unofficially. Alternatively, Kodi has a mythTV plugin and kodi is in the official Debian repos, but the Kodi project has jailed all their docs in CloudFlare's walled-garden, so I'd rather not use Kodi |
| [14:43:04] | cybrNaut: | I'm a little surprised the mythTV front-end would depend on ffmpeg. Or is the front-end and back-end all one pkg? |
| [14:52:10] | jpabq: | stuarta: pushed. |
| [14:55:26] | stuarta: | jpabq: cool |
| [14:55:47] | stuarta: | fingers crossed there will be a new package in about 2hrs |
| [14:56:27] | stuarta: | builds at 4am/pm UTC, it's rsync'd at 4:30am/pm UTC, and the theme.zip is moved into place around 4:40am/pm |
| [14:58:24] | mkbloke: | FYI, I'm using 0.28.2-dmo1+deb9u1 and it's defintely from deb-multimedia.org. |
| [14:59:28] | cybrNaut: | mkbloke: thanks. My choice is apparently that, or CloudFlared Kodi. Guess I'll go with deb-multimedia.org |
| [14:59:34] | mkbloke: | That's on Debian 9, whatever the name is, I can never remember! |
| [15:01:02] | mkbloke: | cybrNaut: it's that or build your own, I guess. |
| [15:02:12] | cybrNaut: | official debian has mythtvfs, mythtv-status, and kodi-pvr-mythtv. I also see that mythtv-frontend is a separate package on deb-multimedia.org. So it's bizarre that mythtv-frontend is not official debian. |
| [15:03:04] | cybrNaut: | i wonder what mythtv-frontend does that kodi-pvr-mythtv does not do, which would trigger patent issues |
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| [15:05:51] | mkbloke: | I really don't know, I'm afraid. |
| [15:09:11] | mkbloke: | cybrNaut: at least as you note above, you can get 30.0+fixes in the current debMM.org stable pool. That's not too bad. |
| [15:10:52] | stuarta: | cybrNaut: they are different things. one is the official mythtv frontend, the other is a plugin for kodi |
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| [15:32:05] | cybrNaut: | stuarta: indeed, but the plugin for kodi is theoretically doing what the mythTV frontend does. So if mythtv-frontend meets the quality and legal standards of official debian, in principle it would make sense to move it into the official debian repos (to make it easier on users and also demonstrate that quality achievment) |
| [15:32:27] | stuarta: | 99% sure patents are the issue |
| [15:34:29] | cybrNaut: | so mythtv-frontend would be using a patent that kodi-pvr-mythtv doesn't (which implies kodi-pvr-mythtv is missing some functionality), or kodi-pvr-mythtv more permissions |
| [15:34:44] | stuarta: | not idea of the specifics |
| [15:38:25] | eth01: | hi |
| [15:40:08] | stuarta: | or something was missed |
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| [18:30:52] | cybrNaut: | does the mythtv backend support DLNA? |
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| [19:48:53] | cybrNaut: | my mythtv frontend cannot connect to the backend, which I have running on a different machine |
| [19:49:29] | cybrNaut: | the frontend that's installed on the same machine as the backend has no problem connecting |
| [19:50:24] | cybrNaut: | I've configured the remote frontend to have all the same settings as the local frontend, except I replaced "localhost" with the actual hostname |
| [19:50:42] | cybrNaut: | is the frontend supposed to be able to connect to remote backends? |
| [19:51:20] | cybrNaut: | error is: "MythTV could not connect to the database. Please verify your database settings below." |
| [20:15:26] | jpabq: | cybrNaut: have you configured your DB server to allow remote connections? Have you configured your Firewall to allow remote connectiong to the DB and mythbackend? |
| [20:17:47] | cybrNaut: | i think the firewall is irrelevent because they're both on the same LAN (inside the firewall), but I did nothing special on the server. |
| [20:18:08] | cybrNaut: | do it need to somehow tell mysql to allow external connections? |
| [20:24:32] | cybrNaut: | well, i found a post saying that "you will also need to run the Mythbuntu Control Centre and activate the mythtv service (allowing remote machines to connect to this backend)." (https://askubuntu.com/questions/97335/how-do- . . . buntu-11-10) |
| [20:25:43] | cybrNaut: | backend does not have a "mythbuntu control centre" AFAIK |
| [20:29:49] | cybrNaut: | ok, so i don't have any of the "mythbuntu" pkgs installed.. only the standard mythtv. Do I really need to install mythbuntu to enable remote access to the server? doesn't seem right |
| [21:02:47] | Steve-Goodey: | cybrNaut: There are quite a few posts on https://forum.mythtv.org/index.php dealing with that exact problem. |
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| [21:19:54] | cybrNaut: | got some answers. for future reference, this is the test to see if the remote DB even accepts remote connections: mysql --user=mythtv --password="$pw" --host="$host" mythconverg |
| [21:20:17] | cybrNaut: | in my case, that failed. "Can't connect to MySQL server on...." |
| [21:20:33] | cybrNaut: | i think this is the answer https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questi . . . ddress-10061 |
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| [22:47:50] | cybrNaut: | if I do "service mysql restart" while recording, will that interfere with the recording? |
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