| Thursday, April 2nd, 2020, 00:55 UTC | ||
| [00:55:26] | mkbloke: | Zombie: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Find_orphans.py ? |
| [01:52:39] | jpabq: | Is anyone working on HEVC recording support? |
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| [07:46:31] | stuarta: | jpabq: HEVC should record just fine from any digital source. What support are you referring to on the recording side? |
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| [12:17:37] | paul-h: | I'm trying to figure out why the packages in my PPA have started to fail to build the culprit is Davids exiv2 changes it appears. Which version of exiv2 should we be using our version or the system provided version? |
| [12:22:13] | hampton: | Master should be using the embedded exiv2. 30 should use the system version. |
| [12:26:46] | paul-h: | This is master and configure does say it's using internal so that part is good |
| [12:26:57] | paul-h: | This is the error https://pastebin.com/aXUxMBa1 |
| [12:33:18] | paul-h: | Wonder if I'm just missing linking to libmythexiv2 in mytharchivehelper |
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| [12:45:59] | hampton: | Sure looks like it. |
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| [15:03:48] | paul-h: | Still waiting for LaunchPad to do the rebuild, painfully slow at the moment 2 hours and counting ... |
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| [15:31:44] | stuarta: | :( |
| [15:40:59] | paul-h: | Has stuartm abandoned the WebFrontend totally? Wonder if we should try to recruit someone to take it over? |
| [15:43:35] | stuarta: | officially no, but effectively yes, since he has no time to work on it |
| [15:45:12] | paul-h: | It was this on the users list that prompted me to ask https://lists.gt.net/mythtv/users/630811 |
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| [15:46:15] | paul-h: | Hard to believe it's been six years since he was working on that |
| [15:46:50] | stuarta: | also hard to believe we've had the VM to replace alcor, for a similar length of time, and i still haven't managed to migrate themes off it! |
| [15:47:12] | stuarta: | and now that platform is obsolete, and we need to move to osuosl's openstack cluster |
| [15:47:15] | stuarta: | :) |
| [15:47:56] | paul-h: | Yeah we all know you are a bit of a slacker :) |
| [15:47:58] | stuarta: | paul-h: anyway, the longer answer is mythweb is still around, and I suspect most people just use it whilst out on the road, that's exactly what i do |
| [15:48:05] | stuarta: | :-p |
| [15:48:28] | stuarta: | the webfrontend, never reached feature complete, but is workable for some tasks |
| [15:48:50] | stuarta: | where i'd like to see us get to, is that the webserver in the backend is purely an API |
| [15:49:04] | stuarta: | and then we wrap that in whatever we see fit to control the backend |
| [15:49:30] | stuarta: | now whether that is a cut down mythweb that talks to the API rather than the database |
| [15:49:48] | stuarta: | or the various other frontend like apps that are floating around |
| [15:49:54] | stuarta: | is something to think about |
| [15:52:47] | stuarta: | tbh. it *should* be a web app, in whatever language we prefer |
| [15:52:53] | stuarta: | separate from the backend |
| [15:53:31] | stuarta: | *but* the backend webserver should have sufficient functionality, that all setup can be done using that. ie. so we can remove the need for X on a backend |
| [15:54:55] | paul-h: | I here what you say but if the task gets to complicated then all we do is talk about it. Somehow we need to break it down to smaller chunks to make it more manageable. If that means reusing either MythWeb or WebFrontend then so be it |
| [15:56:15] | stuarta: | yup |
| [15:56:34] | stuarta: | so one simple (hah!) part of that is setup via the backend webserver |
| [15:57:52] | paul-h: | Personally I'd prefer WebFrontend since it doesn't require any setup. Most users aren't sysadmins we tend to forget that sometimes |
| [15:58:13] | stuarta: | yes, i would be nice for that to be feature complete |
| [15:58:37] | paul-h: | Whether it can be made secure over the internet I dont know |
| [15:58:48] | stuarta: | that was my next discussion |
| [15:59:16] | stuarta: | perhaps if the connection was non local (ie not the same subnet) then only allow scheduling functionality |
| [16:09:52] | paul-h: | Maybe stuartm could let us know what his plan was for that if he had one |
| [16:10:51] | stuarta: | i'm curious to know how hard Qt makes writing web pages... |
| [16:11:43] | stuarta: | been playing around with React and that is nice |
| [16:14:51] | stuarta: | regardless of the frontend web tech however, you still need a feature complete API |
| [16:21:02] | paul-h: | 3 hours and counting on the LaunchPad build doesn't usually take this long :( |
| [16:22:01] | hampton: | There's no way to check on the progress? |
| [16:23:41] | paul-h: | Yeah I can see the log messages it's still progressing but very slowly must be a bad time of day to fire of a build |
| [16:26:02] | stuarta: | 2:30pm GMT+1 is start time for the east coast |
| [16:26:21] | stuarta: | well 2pm |
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| [18:20:37] | peterbennett: | lseen |
| [18:21:05] | peterbennett: | I assume Chris Pinkham is an inactive developer? |
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| [18:37:38] | jpabq: | stuarta: I am assuming the markup table is not indexed correctly for HEVC. I took a quick look, and the marking of "key frames" is quite different between H.264 and H.265. |
| [18:37:57] | paul-h: | peterbennett: I think so not heard anything from him in a long while |
| [18:38:16] | paul-h: | !seen cpinkham |
| [18:38:16] | MythLogBot: | cpinkham has not been seen here |
| [18:39:25] | peterbennett: | paul-h: We should probably take him off ticket auto-assignment – I just closed a bug that had been assigned to him |
| [18:39:59] | paul-h: | !seen captain_murdoch |
| [18:39:59] | MythLogBot: | captain_murdoch was last seen 1218 days 2 hours 12 minutes 26 seconds ago |
| [19:01:08] | gigem: | jpabq: Markup table or seek table? FWIW, I have a lot of recordings transcoded to HEVC. Whatever is done is functional but isn't perfect. |
| [19:29:07] | stuarta: | !seen xris |
| [19:29:07] | MythLogBot: | xris was last seen 9 days 14 hours 52 minutes 26 seconds ago |
| [19:29:11] | stuarta: | paul-h: ^^ |
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| [20:07:49] | xris: | stuarta: yes? |
| [20:08:04] | xris: | wait, how was I last seen 9 days ago? I'm always here. |
| [20:09:43] | xris: | but yes, feel free to remove me and cpinkham from autoassignment. I still chat with him occasionally (schedules direct board meetings) but I think both he and I have moved on from mythtv development years ago. |
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