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[08:55:14] stuarta: morning all
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[09:52:29] knowledgejunkie: stuarta: Thanks. I note in the phpBB user permissions admin that my account is unable to post URLs – is this something I can toggle myself or does a "super-admin" need to frob the switch?
[09:53:39] knowledgejunkie: stuarta: in terms of translations, there has been a sign of life from one language team (who wanted an indication of possible release date to gauge effort required)
[09:56:59] knowledgejunkie: stuarta: not sure if warpme_ is interested in completing more of the PL translations
[09:57:08] stuarta: knowledgejunkie: is there much new to translate?
[09:57:22] stuarta: knowledgejunkie: our main dates are constrained by https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule
[09:58:01] stuarta: so we really actually need to tag the release ASAP
[09:58:12] stuarta: that however doesn't stop us continuing to update the branch
[09:58:13] knowledgejunkie: stuarta: in terms of new strings, majority from new themes that were not previously translated, otherwise the usual changes from code churn and new features
[09:59:24] ** stuarta goes to look at forum permissions **
[09:59:26] knowledgejunkie: stuarta: I mentioned exactly that in the translations call-to-arms: that we will happily add updated translations in a .x point release, so that's not a problem
[09:59:36] stuarta: excellent
[09:59:58] knowledgejunkie: that updated stats do look a bit worse after the new themes were added...
[09:59:59] stuarta: so, realistically this means that translations are not blocking us doing a release
[10:00:23] knowledgejunkie: i might bcc the listed translation teams on the wiki page to gauge who is still active
[10:00:55] stuarta: that's an idea
[10:02:22] knowledgejunkie: nothing holding us up that I can see – translations can and will be made available when they are available. if you want to get on and cut 31.0 please do when you're happy
[10:11:13] stuarta: knowledgejunkie: what url are you trying to post that the forum dislikes?
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[10:11:39] knowledgejunkie: stuarta: a link to the translation wiki page, plus a direct link to the stats
[10:11:46] knowledgejunkie: stuarta: neither were allowed
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[10:12:06] stuarta: it's set to accept http & https urls within URL BBCode tags
[10:16:36] stuarta: so should just work
[10:31:23] markk_: warpme_: so tried again the tx6 again this morning. zeroed the drive. use the armbian image with second boot option. still nothing – although the monitor does at least seem to think there is something connected to the hdmi port.
[10:36:00] knowledgejunkie: stuarta: still refused ("You can't post..."). I just checked my user permissions for posting, and "Can post URL Links in posts" is set to never
[10:36:09] stuarta: how odd
[10:36:49] stuarta: ah. hmmm
[10:37:27] knowledgejunkie: stuarta: is it because the account is a new user?
[10:37:46] stuarta: probably, just dropped you from the new users group, and checking what it say
[10:37:48] stuarta: *says
[10:38:47] ** stuarta fiddles some more **
[10:41:35] knowledgejunkie: stuarta: that's numberwang!
[10:41:39] stuarta: knowledgejunkie: i think that's done it. after dropping you from the (restricted) new users group, i had to remove and re-add you to the developers group
[10:41:54] stuarta: and your permissions look like what I would now expect
[10:42:01] knowledgejunkie: stuarta: thank you :)
[10:42:04] stuarta: np
[10:47:22] warpme_: markk_: re tx6: " still nothing – although the monitor does at least seem to think there is something connected to the hdmi port" – is this change happens when You started using APPEND with "HDMI=...."?
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[10:52:24] markk_: warpme_: actually I don't think there's been any change.
[10:54:59] warpme_: markk_: well – i'm trying to understood Your statement: " still nothing – although the monitor does at least seem to think there is something connected to the hdmi port". I recall in past You mentioned that there is no ANY reactions on monitor. Do I recall correctly?
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[11:15:41] markk_: warpme_: I thought initially there was a difference – but I was mistaken.
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[12:02:07] warpme_: ah ok. so lets summarize a bit... 1\at this stage we don't know what is reason of not booting mm2 nor armbian on this box. Box was booting OK in past – but stopped – highly probably – because of changes android made in box bootloader when android developer mode was enabled. So effectively we don't know: 1\is this box and android-only brick (for now) or; 2\box is so specific that past was booting OK mm2 v10.0.0–1675
[12:02:07] warpme_: just because this single lucky SW was capable to boot on this box. Keeping in mind a\we tested 4 other mm2 ver. (including mm2 ver. very close to working mm2 ver.); b\armbian also fails; c\i'm routinely doing regression tests on 3 different h6 boxes (and all works ok): I would give 95% probability for case 1\ and 5% for case 2\. So lets go with case 1\. We don't know is box revertible from android-only brick current
[12:02:07] warpme_: state. We have imho 2 choices we may move forward: 1.1\ do FEL (restore firmware); 1.2\ attach uart->USB and see what is box bootloader telling to us. I would suggest: go with 1.1. If it will help – then we are in home. If not – then we have next 2 choices i think: 1.2.1\ still try reanimate box; 1.2.2\ sell box as second-hand and by new one. In case 1.2.1 – some context: in arm boxes conceptually hdmi is the same class
[12:02:07] warpme_: of peripheral like i.e. USB. So if there is problem with booting at stage before kernel inits HDMI – screen will be black. It is almost opposite to PC world where display is 2nd peripheral initialized by BIOS. In arm world – thing which is telling very early boot messages is uart (it tells even arm trusted firmware bl2 messages so gives v.early insights what is wrong/failing). So: if we want to try to reanimate this box
[12:02:07] warpme_: - uart->usb is starting point. Q is then: what is more more perspective: explore this box or replace this box.....
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[12:12:48] warpme_: markk_: for case uart path: https://linux-sunxi.org/File:Tanix-TX6XR-SerialConsole.jpg
[12:13:34] markk_: warpme_: yeah – found that earlier. I think I'm going to try the uart route first.
[12:14:30] warpme_: oh perfect. feel free to ask an Q as i'm using it on many boxes when I was adding support in mm2....
[13:38:30] stuarta: bah. mythweb throws lots of errors under ubuntu-19.10. I suspect it's no better on 20.04
[13:40:44] stuarta: \o/ yay, pull requests
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[13:47:22] stuarta: #13406
[13:47:22] ** MythLogBot https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/13406 **
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[14:50:10] stuarta: well that's mangled some mythweb fixes
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[15:53:20] stuarta: sheesh, this game of close old tickets could go on for ages
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[16:13:04] markk_: stuarta – if you want to close a new one, try #13597 :)
[16:13:04] ** MythLogBot https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/13597 **
[16:37:26] stuarta: hah
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[21:21:38] stuarta: arse, i have to get perl cgi wrapped before i can check out one of these tickets :(
[21:21:45] stuarta: i bloody hate perl
[21:22:42] stuarta: if i could be bothered, i'd rewrite the whole of mythweb in ruby on rails
[21:22:46] stuarta: but can't be arsed
[21:24:46] stuarta: it still wouldn't remove the need for the API to feature complete tho
[21:25:07] ** stuarta ponders bearer token auth for certain API functions **
[21:29:15] stuarta: yes that would actually work, and work well
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