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| [11:22:04] | KdW: | gigem:ok, thx, so I should use a new version for each update and update schema version as well. n.b. because I had not changed the schema version yet the database update code is not executed so I thought that this was harmless. |
| [11:28:41] | KdW: | gigem: I should then also change the version number in bindings/perl/MythTV.pm and bindings/python/MythTV/satic.py and bindings/php/MythBackend.php as indicated in the comments in mythversion.h, correct? |
| [12:02:03] | KdW: | there is no schema version in MythBackend.php, am updating perl and python schema version to 1352. |
| [12:09:19] | KdW: | done |
| [12:17:20] | stuarta: | that nicely triggers the ubuntu 19.10 builder i just put together |
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| [14:37:18] | gigem: | KdW: I believe the preferred way to handle pending, schema updates in published (aka committed and pusdhed) code is leave them commented out in dbhceck.ccpp. Thanks for cleaning that up. FYI, I noticed this because I have my own schema update in the works and had to merge the changes when I rebased. |
| [14:45:46] | stuarta: | there's that ticket about storing the channel type in the DB that i've managed to miss the update window for, on about the last 3 releases |
| [14:46:39] | KdW: | gigem: while we are at schema updates, there is the bug that a new capture card has a default reclimit of 1, i.e. only one tuner. This used to be 2 in the past. There is code that sets it to 2 but that does not work because the database default is 1. This can be fixed with "ALTER TABLE capturecard ALTER reclimit SET DEFAULT 2; |
| [14:46:56] | KdW: | stuarta: the field is there and the code is now being tested.... |
| [14:53:40] | stuarta: | \o/ |
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| [15:07:24] | gigem: | KdW: As I recall, the way the card setup works now, it makes it impossible or prohibitively difficult to set the default to 2. It should be a moot point, though. Schedule as Group now defaults to on. That means additional, virtual inputs are automatically added as needed. The only time a user really needs to set the number of maximum recordings is when they can't use Schedule as Group. |
| [15:15:37] | KdW: | gigem: Option "Schedule as group" in mythtv-setup page "Interactions between inputs" is by default off/unselected on my system. |
| [15:15:51] | KdW: | maybe also a database default |
| [15:27:25] | KdW: | can be fixed with: alter table capturecard alter schedgroup set default 1; |
| [15:28:12] | KdW: | fixing it in the database and removing the code that tries to set it (but fails) looks to me the best way forward |
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| [15:38:28] | KdW: | gigem: i can do that if you want, i am rather deep into mythtv-setup at the moment... |
| [15:41:22] | gigem: | KdW: What type of card? And was it a card that was already configured or one you just added? Schedule as Group was never turned on automatically for existing cards because it could be unsafe in some, albeit rare, cases. |
| [15:41:51] | KdW: | Today's master, new capture card created. |
| [15:43:14] | KdW: | N.B. I had always turned it off because until I fixed it automaticallly creating new tuners went wrong with tuners with common interface cards. |
| [15:44:28] | KdW: | It can still go wrong with CI-card tuners because you cannot run an unlimited number of tuners on one smartcard. |
| [15:45:21] | KdW: | Maybe scheduling-as-group and automatic tuner creation should have been separate options. |
| [15:47:17] | KdW: | type of card: MyGica T230 DVB-T/T2/C USB stick. Called "DVB-T/S/C, ATSC or ISDB-T tuner card" in mythtv-setup. |
| [15:48:33] | KdW: | I have only DVB cards but the "Schedule as group" "off" is the default for all cards that I have. |
| [15:57:30] | KdW: | I think it is the same as with reclimit, the database is more powerful than the code since the new GUI framework. |
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| [19:28:14] | gigem: | KdW: Any new card that can support reclimit > 1 should default to Schedule as Group enabled. I'll see if I can reproduce your problem. I still have one DVB/ATSC card but don't have anything hooked up to it. Network tuners are soooooooooo much more convenient. |
| [19:30:26] | gigem: | Schedule as Group and automatic addition of tuners can't really be separated. Schedule as Group central assumption is that an unlimited number of recordings can be run on the card. There was a time when it was up to the user make sure they didn't oversubscribe but that was always a temporary situation until the automatic creattion part could be done. |
| [19:31:40] | gigem: | If the hardware can't support unlimited recordings, like due to bandwidth limitations or CI restrictions, Schedule as Group off is the only way to ensure the configured reclimit is never exceeded. |
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| [20:15:53] | KdW: | gigem: OK, clear! Interesting to see if you can reproduce the problem. As said, fixing this in database default values is the simplest solution. |
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