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| [00:08:25] | gigem: | peterbennett: atsc and vbi subtitles (aks cc708 and cc608) work. a/v subtitles (aka the kind from muxing in an srt) file also work. There are also dvd and bd (I think) subtitles. I don't know their status. |
| [00:09:48] | gigem: | peterbennett: fontconfig currently must be built but isn't really used. I think it's required because some stuff is in the manifest or something like that. The app crashes without it. markspieth probably knows more about that. I thing he still intends to get fontconfig working. |
| [00:10:01] | ** gigem heads home but will check back in later. ** | |
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| [09:28:16] | jya: | Got a LG oled, that TV shares similar IR code to the mac mini I set up to run mythtv. |
| [09:28:36] | stuarta: | bet that caused some head scratching |
| [09:28:41] | jya: | So pressing menu on my myth remove, switch the TV to hdmi 2 |
| [09:28:59] | jya: | Remote |
| [09:29:21] | jya: | I've spent days on getting that remote exactly how I liked it. What a pain. |
| [09:29:43] | jya: | The quality of that TV is mind blowing. The colours are amazing. |
| [09:31:15] | jya: | Mythtv is really the best thing to watch free to air TV. Ability to rewind anytime is so awesome. |
| [09:32:04] | stuarta: | most of the tv providers in the uk provide this feature by default in their STB these days |
| [09:32:51] | jya: | In France, either Orange or free, you must have paused playback at least once. |
| [09:33:00] | jya: | Same wjth the foxtel STB here. |
| [09:33:18] | stuarta: | becoming common these days |
| [09:33:19] | jya: | And you can rewind only if you're in delayed playback |
| [09:33:59] | jya: | They have switched to H264 (from mpeg2) while I was away. Quality is pretty good. |
| [09:34:31] | stuarta: | jya: you back in Aus now? |
| [09:35:23] | jya: | Yes |
| [09:35:41] | jya: | I'm having a few livetv start-up failure. |
| [09:35:47] | jya: | About 1 in 3 |
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| [10:16:28] | markk_: | stuarta: so given that QtOpenGL is gone and opengl support is baked into QtGui – is there a reason to retain all of the USING_OPENGL and USING_OPENGL_VIDEO type defines? |
| [10:17:31] | stuarta: | very good question |
| [10:17:48] | markk_: | they're everywhere! |
| [10:18:15] | stuarta: | are they used to split the legacy X display code off from the opengl code? |
| [10:19:28] | markk_: | I don't think so – all comes from the dreaded configure script checking for opengl support. which presumably it still needs to do to link to the correct lib etc |
| [10:22:46] | stuarta: | i suspect it can be significantly simplified to if(QtGui.available()) |
| [10:22:48] | markk_: | hrm – have been forgetting to ref the tracking ticket:( |
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| [10:23:18] | stuarta: | doh! |
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| [10:36:47] | markk_: | does debian support the closed source nvidia drivers? I seem to remember they were funny about it years ago |
| [10:37:17] | stuarta: | probably in their non-free repo's |
| [10:37:43] | stuarta: | however 99% of our user base uses ubuntu which do include them (somewhere) |
| [10:38:07] | markk_: | is ubuntu really that dominant? |
| [10:38:22] | stuarta: | http://smolt.mythtv.org/ <- see stats page |
| [10:38:37] | stuarta: | okay, so 90% |
| [10:39:25] | stuarta: | with 16.04 (LTS) taking top spot, and 18.04 (LTS) taking second |
| [10:42:40] | markk_: | how are people still using qt4?? |
| [10:42:59] | stuarta: | never upgraded from the really old version where we did use Qt |
| [10:43:00] | stuarta: | qt4 |
| [10:45:05] | stuarta: | there's lots of 0.28.x still in use, which iirc was qt4 based |
| [10:46:59] | stuarta: | markk_: fyi, i'm contemplating adding capturing of `glxinfo -B` in the smolt data, so we start to get an idea of the opengl profiles available |
| [11:05:57] | markk_: | stuarta: sounds good. can you remind me – is smolt data captured from backend or frontend or both? |
| [11:06:54] | stuarta: | erm.... both i think |
| [11:07:12] | stuarta: | smolt is however another of those things that requires a rewrite |
| [11:07:53] | stuarta: | the data model is horrendous, and every 10mins it spends a good 3–4mins regenerating the static web pages |
| [11:09:52] | markspieth: | jya: I have 1 too. 4yo and panel just failed. LG have said they will fix it under ACL so Im happy. otherwise A$2750 for panel/tcon pair inc labour. |
| [11:10:11] | stuarta: | ouch |
| [11:12:11] | markspieth: | indeed |
| [11:12:24] | Steve-Goodey: | Thought one year guarentee was the max unless you paid extra. |
| [11:12:28] | markspieth: | only cost me A$3k in the first place |
| [11:12:48] | markspieth: | Asutralian cionsumer law has provision for "reasonable durability" |
| [11:13:36] | Steve-Goodey: | What do they consider reasonable? |
| [11:14:34] | markspieth: | How long is a TV suppsoed to last? Apparently LG here are pretty good about this as long as it is not damaged. e.g. kids throwing controllers at the screen. |
| [11:14:40] | markk_: | having worked for a company involved in HDMI-CEC – I wouldn't touch LG with a barge pole (no offence to LG owners!) – they're not fond of standards |
| [11:15:28] | markspieth: | OLED is brilliant though. But I do expect it to last for say 10 years. |
| [11:15:35] | markspieth: | especially at that price. |
| [11:19:18] | Steve-Goodey: | My Pioneer Plasma has lasted almost 10 years, no 4K for me. |
| [11:20:55] | markspieth: | no 4k either. Have a cheap TCL for that. Pretty good for the price. |
| [11:21:57] | stuarta: | markk_: on your rpi with the QEGLNativeContext stuff commented out, does the build work fine? |
| [11:23:49] | markk_: | stuarta: it is working fine with the correct header (QPlatformHeaders or some such) – but I built my own qt5 with full broadcom eglfs support – which presumably adds the headers. |
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| [13:09:08] | markk_: | stuarta: I can't see how we can fix that EGL stuff. I added in the header on my dev pc (#include <QtPlatformHeaders/QEGLNativeContext>) and it just complains about a missing private header. So I'm going to comment it out for now. |
| [13:10:55] | stuarta: | markk_: i'm happy with that, i've done that on my rpi, but having trouble getting *any* app to run that uses hw bits |
| [13:14:25] | markk_: | stuarta: any app on the pi? |
| [13:14:37] | stuarta: | even glxinfo is hanging |
| [13:14:57] | stuarta: | some of the others complains that something is in use |
| [13:15:20] | stuarta: | "* failed to add service – already in use?" |
| [13:15:38] | stuarta: | which is some weird arse way of saying it can't get hold of the hardware |
| [13:18:15] | markk_: | I've largely given up on my pi for the moment (pi zero). mythfrontend is painfully slow, I can't get a keyboard to connect and re-compiles take *forever*. and openmax seems to be borked... |
| [13:18:46] | stuarta: | mine an rpi3 something |
| [13:19:10] | markk_: | stuarta: is there a way to avoid being accused of spamming trac? :) keep getting locked out :( |
| [13:19:19] | stuarta: | really? |
| [13:19:30] | markk_: | using github login |
| [13:19:45] | markk_: | I probably have a very old dev login somewhere... |
| [13:19:53] | stuarta: | uses only github now |
| [13:22:19] | ** stuarta falls asleep waiting for trac ** | |
| [13:23:07] | stuarta: | markk_: added you to developer group on trac, that will hopefully stop it |
| [13:24:22] | stuarta: | markk_: ah, you hit the ip throttle |
| [13:26:12] | markk_: | thanks |
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| [13:29:38] | ** stuarta waves to kwizart ** | |
| [13:30:12] | kwizart: | hi there ! |
| [13:30:28] | ** kwizart todays's wonder, why there is a video group for... ** | |
| [13:33:12] | stuarta: | trac you steaming pile of poo |
| [13:44:42] | peterbennett: | The latest raspbian and mythtv30 gives awful sound on analog. Crackles and pops continuously mixed in with the audio. No idea why. |
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| [13:54:40] | stuarta: | anyone need some h264/h265 test videos? http://jell.yfish.us/ |
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| [14:05:06] | markk_: | stuarta: nice – somewhat surprised that I can play 10bit videos... |
| [14:05:27] | stuarta: | can't play squat right now on this laptop :( |
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| [14:06:48] | markk_: | does ffmpeg downsample?? |
| [14:15:51] | peterbennett: | markk_: You can downsample with ffmpeg. |
| [14:16:56] | peterbennett: | markk_: As far as 10bit video is concerned it is being converted to 8bit before we display it – would be nice to fix that. |
| [14:19:57] | markk_: | peterbennett: presumably we have to tell ffmpeg to return the full 10bit frame? |
| [14:25:01] | markk_: | ah – I see where we convert it |
| [14:36:19] | stuarta: | markk_: AFAICT the colours on VDPAU are still fine after the QMatrix4x4 change |
| [14:45:56] | markk_: | stuarta: cool – thanks. was just about to test |
| [14:48:32] | stuarta: | jellyfish test successful :) |
| [14:49:01] | stuarta: | also just tried the 4k-udh-h264 variant, and vaapi2 could process it easily |
| [14:49:15] | stuarta: | (test laptop doesn't support HEVC profiles) |
| [14:59:24] | stuarta: | this feels quite theraputic seeing the broom put through this code |
| [15:02:13] | markk_: | needs to happen elsewhere |
| [15:02:33] | stuarta: | indeed. but we gotta start somewhere |
| [15:04:05] | markk_: | don't even know where to start on livetv... |
| [15:08:28] | stuarta: | who even uses livetv :-p |
| [15:10:38] | markk_: | it has its uses |
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| [15:43:44] | gigem: | My mom uses live TV a lot. It's forced me to address some issues. There is still a very annoying seek table/end of file detection issue that can cause skipping/fast forwarding to suddenly warp to the end. Other than that, live TV is working reasonably well for her. |
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| [17:41:58] | peterbennett: | gigem: I have seen that issues where i jumps to the end of recording on skip forward when watching a recording in progress, but I have not seen it recently. |
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| [18:04:57] | peterbennett: | stuarta: markk_: MythTV is the only way that I have to watch TV Live. |
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| [18:29:25] | gigem: | peterbennett: I haven't seen it during in progress recordings, only in live TV. |
| [18:37:13] | MythBuild: | Build 2019-render-debian-stretch-rpi2-armv7l #18 is complete: Success [build successful] – https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/#builders/97/builds/18 |
| [18:37:13] | ** MythLogBot https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/18 ** | |
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| [19:34:42] | peper03: | gigem: peterbennett: Regarding the question about subtitles earlier – DVD and Bluray subtitles are graphic overlays (i.e. they are encoded as images) so there's no dependency on fontconfig or similar at all. |
| [19:42:52] | peterbennett: | peper03: DVD also has "closed captions" sometimes which are text ... |
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| [19:47:17] | peterbennett: | raspbian has a "new improved" audio driver which causes lots of loud pops and crackles to be inserted into analog audio. Luckily it can be disabled. |
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| [20:16:57] | hampton: | I can't get my android build working again. I am trying to recreate the libraries, and a './makelibs.sh all' command dies while building ICU. Says the C compiler cannot create executables. Has anyone else seen this? |
| [20:17:45] | peterbennett: | hampton: I have seen that message. |
| [20:18:44] | peterbennett: | hampton: It is not really true, I think that error comes out of any compile failure in teh config. |
| [20:19:30] | peterbennett: | Probably a header file not found or something. |
| [20:20:52] | hampton: | I see a bunch of "error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" messages. |
| [20:21:33] | hampton: | Do I need to set something in my environment? Its been a while since I've been through this. |
| [20:22:56] | peterbennett: | Did you set up ~/android/setenv.sh ? |
| [20:24:13] | hampton: | I have that file |
| [20:24:56] | peterbennett: | Follow the readme. |
| [20:25:36] | peterbennett: | You can build 1 library at a time, that helps sometimes. |
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| [20:28:00] | hampton: | ok. I'll start from the top of the readme. |
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| [20:43:18] | hampton: | My clang arm cross compiler needs an older version of ncurses than what's installed. I used symlinks so it could find the (newer) libraries and it worked. |
| [20:48:13] | hampton: | I ran './maketoolchain --force' a little while ago, but it completed so quickly I'm not sure it actually did anything. |
| [20:51:08] | gigem: | peterbennett: You can never have too many loud pops and crackles in your audio! |
| [20:51:50] | gigem: | hampton: makelibs.sh does seem to be rather fragile. I always have lots of trepidation every time I delete libs and try to build from scratch. |
| [20:56:08] | peper03: | peterbennett: Ah, yes. I *think* they only really occur on region 1 discs, don't they? I'm pretty sure I've never come across them on R2 discs. |
| [20:57:37] | peper03: | Obviously, if you have a disc with closed captions, you don't really care if they used elsewhere or not :) |
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| [21:07:30] | hampton: | Lovely. kernel-headers and glibc-headers both define a structure with the same name, preventing makelibs from compiling qt. |
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| [21:09:45] | gigem: | hampton: statx and rename2 or something like that? If so, update your makelibs.sh. That was fixed last week. |
| [21:11:24] | hampton: | Thanks. |
| [21:11:26] | hampton: | And it builds qt5.11 instead of qt5.10. :-) |
| [21:11:35] | gigem: | yw. |
| [21:15:34] | jya: | markspieth: ouch. |
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| [21:17:34] | jya: | The hdmi-cec seems to be working just fine between the TV and the Apple TV. |
| [21:43:01] | gigem: | I believe the uncommitted patch I have is a better fix than https://github.com/warpme/minimyth2/blob/mast . . . files.patch. I'll commit it in the next few days after I've run it myself for a while longer. |
| [21:44:01] | gigem: | For your other patch, https://github.com/warpme/minimyth2/blob/mast . . . ocket.patch, I'm not prepared to comment on it yet. Again, if you haven't already opened a ticket for it, please do. |
| [21:54:27] | gigem: | For anyone else following along regarding my deadlock due to wrong file issue, here's a couple more interesting tidbits. I checked my logs and I've had 3 instances of the problem this month. Each instance involved starting playback of the same program (the 10pm News on one channel) while it was still recording. Additionally, I have 3 drives/directories in my Default storage group. In each instance, the |
| [21:54:29] | gigem: | program was recorded on a different drive and playback was incorrectly attempted on a different drive. |
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