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| [07:55:30] | stuarta: | morning all |
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| [18:08:18] | TheCrasher: | Hey guys n' girls... Is anyone currently working on Sat>IP support for mythtv? I kind of need it and since I'm a deve I was thinking about doing some work on it and see how far I can come... Would be a shame to do something thats already being done tough :-P |
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| [18:56:38] | SteveGoodey: | TheCrasher: This any good? https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/SAT2IP_players_as_capture_cards |
| [18:59:14] | TheCrasher: | I read about it.. the problem is I find it to be a workaround at best and you have to generate your mu3 file by hand which is a terrible user experience.. I as a dev would probably get it to work but is that really what we should strive for? |
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| [20:06:46] | dekarl: | TheCrasher: the easy way is to extend the playlist parser to make up channel numbers |
| [20:07:49] | TheCrasher: | That would be an option yes.. afaik the setup tool does not use upnp to find the servers at the moment right? |
| [20:08:03] | dekarl: | the proper way is to come up with a dedicated Sat>IP recorder that "just works". But that may not be trivial if you want to support mixed setups with statically tuned transports and individually tuned transports |
| [20:08:25] | dekarl: | correct, its all manually, nothing mythical to it, yet :) |
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| [20:09:27] | dekarl: | step 2 would be to let the recorder handle missing PAT rewrite – so our recorder can find out the proper program_number/service_id on its own – basically working around primitive DVB implementations |
| [20:09:49] | dekarl: | step 3 would be automatic detections of the m3u url |
| [20:10:12] | dekarl: | well, these three steps or a proper recorder that does the magic |
| [20:10:30] | dekarl: | IIRC there is no standard way of signalling the location of the M3U? |
| [20:11:05] | TheCrasher: | I'm currently digging trough the Sat>IP Documentations.. I'm not even sure a m3u is guaranteed |
| [20:11:30] | TheCrasher: | AFAIK the client is supposed to do a scan as if it were using a normal dvb device |
| [20:12:03] | dekarl: | You can likely look at the VBox support. Its a relatively new recorder that targets the same domain with a different implementation/standard |
| [20:12:57] | TheCrasher: | I guess my biggest disadvantage here is that I know neither mythtvs code nor basic dvb functionality :-D |
| [20:13:41] | dekarl: | yes, that is one common way, the other common way is static ip multicast of services, then there is rtsp unicast+m3u and lastly http unicast+m3u |
| [20:14:32] | dekarl: | you can always get your feet wet with the simple steps and get quick results (and fame :) |
| [20:14:49] | dekarl: | once you understand the DVB concepts you can tackle the full recorder |
| [20:15:04] | dekarl: | as its a standard by commitee its an ugly beast |
| [20:16:03] | TheCrasher: | Hmm.. I'll have a good thought about it then ;-) Thank you for your help :-) |
| [20:18:30] | dekarl: | you're welcome. getting the M3U to "just work" does not involve any DVB and very little MythTV specifics, which is why I suggested it first |
| [20:19:12] | dekarl: | btw, you can always try to talk vendors into providing a proper playlist and/or PAT filtering :D |
| [20:19:51] | dekarl: | this is one of the cases where "doing it right at the source" is lots easier, if you can get someone to do the actual work |
| [20:24:10] | TheCrasher: | Yea well my thought was to have proper sat>IP support :-D |
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