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Monday, February 27th, 2017, 00:01 UTC

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stuarta:

now i've 3 builds running in parallel to test it

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MythBuild:

build #126 of 0.28-archlinux-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . t/builds/126

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stuarta:

pushed fixes for the qt5.8 issue

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gary_buhrmaster:

stuarta: Excellent. I suppose I could have looked closer at the original report to provide hints to the OP, but I was otherwise overloaded.

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MythBuild:

build #369 of master-archlinux-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/369

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MythBuild:

build #127 of 0.28-archlinux-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . t/builds/127

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stuarta:

gary_buhrmaster: i only did a quick build to see if I could work it out, and it was the one and only place that needed changing. there's probably a better way of writing that code, but i couldn't be arsed

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stuarta:

#12724

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12724 **

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stuarta:

peterbennett: look like you are having fun with those link local addresses....

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peterbennett:

stuarta: yeah, browsers do not accept link-local addresses and QT does not allow them in URLs. It seems a deliberate effort to disallow them for http traffic.

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stuarta:

i thought browsers did.... hmmmm....

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jheizer_:

fe80: is the local link address right? I can access my home server via that address in chrome on windows.

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stuarta:

yep

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stuarta:

glad i'm not going mad

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peterbennett1:

http://[fe80::1c98:f936:7f9e:3afb%enp0s25] in chrome opens a google search with that. It does not recognize it as an ip address or a host id

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jheizer_:

drop the %interface

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peterbennett1:

jheizer: Then it tells me the site cannot be reached

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jheizer:

Is whatever you are connecting to only listening on single IP by chance?

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stuarta:

same here

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peterbennett1:

jheizer: however telnet fe80::1c98:f936:7f9e:3afb%enp0s25 80 does connect so my web server is listening at that address

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stuarta:

thats chrome being "intelligent"

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peterbennett1:

Firefox gives the same result

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stuarta:

so what this proves is link local addresses aren't liked in proper browser based connections

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** stuarta tries curl **

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stuarta:

okay, curl works, so upnp should work provided the client provides the apprpriate scoping

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peterbennett1:

My cable was disconnected for a few minutes and all my IPV6 addresses disappeared. I have to go into the router and release and renew

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peterbennett1:

stuarta: what format of URL did you use with curl?

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stuarta:

curl http://[fe80::3e4a:92ff:fe79:c5a5%enp0s25]:7544

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stuarta:

substitute as appropriate

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stuarta:

for :7544 read :6544 (my dev (master) instance lives on different ports to my prod instance)

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peterbennett1:

Google and firefox both work fine on normal IPvb6 addresses to my test machine http://[2601:183:101:d755:9612:cc42:4568:ec89]

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stuarta:

yep, same here (although i use dns as that resolves for me)

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peterbennett1:

I suppose you could even get to that address from across the world

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jheizer:

I wonder if it is a linux thing. I just tried bash on windows to the curl the same local link address and it failed

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stuarta:

peterbennett1: yes i can ping it ;-)

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jheizer:

yuyp, default apache page

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jheizer:

on ubuntu

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stuarta:

same

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peterbennett1:

Scary now the whole world can hack me

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stuarta:

firewalls.....

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peterbennett1:

Yes I have been trying to figure out what to do about that for a home network. Seems the router does not provide anything.

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stuarta:

eek! get a better router

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peterbennett1:

It has plenty of firewall support for ipv4

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gary_buhrmaster:

peterbennett: Some browsers (used to) support LLA of the form http://[fe80::1%25eth0]/ (url encoding the percent) but I think most stopped supporting it.

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stuarta:

pretty much what we are discussing

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peterbennett1:

gary_buhrmaster: There seems to be an effort by the browsers and QT to ignore link-local addresses. It would be better if they specifically set some rules over what is and is not supported.

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stuarta:

i think it should be feasible for a frontend to discover a backend via upnp, other than that i'm tempted not to announce them

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gary_buhrmaster:

I have not been following all the patches. Do the changes support using multiple GUA (and multiple ULA, and LLA) addresses concurrently?

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peterbennett:

gary_buhrmaster: The backend listens on all its addresses unless you set the "backend IP address" as the link local, in which case it only listens on that one.

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peterbennett:

gary_buhrmaster: I am not sure why that is

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peterbennett:

The result is that if you set backend ip as the link-local, then upnp does not work

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stuarta:

i thought that flag controlled if it announced LL addresses

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stuarta:

which tbh, would be more sensible

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peterbennett:

If the flag is set and a global ip address is selected then it listens on all

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peterbennett:

If the flag is set and a LL address is selected, it only listens on that one

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peterbennett:

Not sure what happens if the flag is set and a LL address is selected.

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stuarta:

still wondering why we bother to specifically bind to ip addresses and not just use wildcard binds

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peterbennett:

stuarta: That would make more sense. I don't know if it would cause any problem.

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stuarta:

worth starting an email thread on -dev list to gather opinion?

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stuarta:

it would also make new user setup *MUCH* easier

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peterbennett:

stuarta: also the whole practice of having to set ip addresses, and not allowing use of host ids or dns

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gary_buhrmaster:

I mentioned that on list (wildcard bind). Someone (I think on IRC) said there was an issue. But I do not recall the person (or the issue).

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stuarta:

right, i need to head off, be back in ~4hrs

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dekarl:

IIRC the idea behind binding to individual addresses is so that we can announce "if you can receive this, then you can reach me via THE-IP"

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FabriceMG:

hello

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FabriceMG:

Are metadata working in 0.28?

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FabriceMG:

for me , no

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FabriceMG:

http://pastebin.com/4hrapiyz

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FabriceMG:

Inverted comas are missing in request of backend

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dekarl:

FabriceMG: the backend doesn't do the quotation marks as it invokes the grabber via system call passing individual parameters, that may contain spaces

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dekarl:

think: /usr/share/mythtv/metadata/Movie/tmdb3.py "-l" "fr" "-a" "FR" "-M" "13 Hours"

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dekarl:

so the issue that breaks metadata lookup for you must be something else

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FabriceMG:

Feb 27 20:38:04 mythtv mythbackend: mythbackend[16408]: I MetadataDownload metadatagrabber.cpp:453 (RunGrabber) Running Grabber: /usr/share/mythtv/metadata/Movie/tmdb3.py -l fr -a FR -M 13 Hours

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FabriceMG:

it's resquest backend

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dekarl:

yes, that is exactly what you see in the logfile

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FabriceMG:

yes, but the metadata don't work on my backend

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dekarl:

here is the lookup, it passes an array of strings to the call, but just joins them with " " for logging https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/fixes/0 . . . ber.cpp#L446

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FabriceMG:

http://pastebin.com/b7Fpu76z

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FabriceMG:

backend log for "13 hours" movie

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dekarl:

hmm, can tmdb3.py write to its cache when run by the backend?

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dekarl:

is the database table crashed?

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FabriceMG:

for you, if you have 0.28, Are metadata work fine on 0.28?

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FabriceMG:

no , database is ok and storagegroup table is ok

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dekarl:

I'm on master

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FabriceMG:

what is port for the new mythweb ?

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FabriceMG:

i want make test

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dekarl:

6544

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dekarl:

stuartm, an idea. the recodring rule (especially search rules) could also show the last 5 recordings made from the rule.

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FabriceMG:

in new mythweb , the metadata lookup don't work, no log in backend

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dekarl:

just saw that, says "not implemented" next to the button

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dekarl:

FabriceMG: what --version is this?

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jheizer:

/usr/share/mythtv/metadata/Movie/tmdb3.py "-l" "fr" "-a" "FR" "-M" "13 Hours" works on .28 here

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dekarl:

jheizer: does it work from the frontend?

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jheizer:

that show specifically isn;t in my listing

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jheizer:

but in general yes

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jheizer:

its doing everything auto in the background as expected

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FabriceMG:

MythTV Version : v0.28.1-8-ge9be5e0

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jheizer:

I'm on g5a7b3c8

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dekarl:

ok FabriceMG so you are running the latest fixes/0.28

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FabriceMG:

I have installed 0.28 in july 2016 on new install of mythbuntu, and it has not work properly since then

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dekarl:

ok, then its likely something in the setup. if metadata lookup was broken for everyone we'd know by now

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FabriceMG:

groupstorage ok , and verified

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dekarl:

can you raise the logging level and see if there is anything in the logfile?

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FabriceMG:

acess of groupstorage 777

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dekarl:

FabriceMG: ls -l ~mythtv/.mythtv/{cache/,}/pytmdb3.cache

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FabriceMG:

dekarl: not now , the backend record

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FabriceMG:

fabrice@mythtv:~$ ls -l ~mythtv/.mythtv/{cache/,}/pytmdb3.cache -rw-r--r-- 1 dnsmasq bluetooth 129794 sept. 27 09:23 /home/mythtv/.mythtv/cache//pytmdb3.cache -rw-r--r-- 1 dnsmasq bluetooth 126022 juin 28 2016 /home/mythtv/.mythtv//pytmdb3.cache

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FabriceMG:

http://pastebin.com/tCWf8GHD

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dekarl:

ok, so you have the old 0.27 cache still around, just remove it (last modified in June)

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dekarl:

but why is it owned by dnsmasq... do dnsmasq and mythtv have the same numerical user id?

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FabriceMG:

mythbuntu !!!!!! i'am just basic user !

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dekarl:

no worries

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dekarl:

grep mythtv /etc/passwd

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dekarl:

and the same with dnsmasq

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FabriceMG:

mythtv:x:123:131::/home/mythtv:/bin/sh

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FabriceMG:

after deleted files, it's din't work again

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FabriceMG:

*don't

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dekarl:

ok, was about to suggest to just delete the file

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dekarl:

what is the userid of "dnsmasq? grep dnsmasq /etc/passwd

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dekarl:

is it 123, too?

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FabriceMG:

dnsmasq:x:115:65534:dnsmasq,,,:/var/lib/misc:/bin/false

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dekarl:

oh, try "sudo chown -R mythtv:mythtv ~mythtv/.mythtv" to make mythtv the owner of all files in the mythtv configuration directory

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FabriceMG:

sudo chown -R mythtv:mythtv /home/mythtv

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FabriceMG:

?

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dekarl:

ok. just verify with ls -l ~mythtv/.mythtv

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dekarl:

and verify that the mythbackend is running as user mythtv, e.g. by just looking at "top"

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FabriceMG:

ok

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FabriceMG:

it's work !!!

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dekarl:

\o/

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FabriceMG:

strange, who changed the user !!!!

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dekarl:

I have to babysit a bit. bed time for the little ones

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FabriceMG:

thx dekarl , you are alway the best !

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SteveGoodey:

Brings back memories of my Psion. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/27/the_ . . . meet_gemini/

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stuarta:

did you see they've revived the nokia 3330?

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SteveGoodey:

Mentioned on R4 this morning. Suggested as a way to stop US border asking for your social media passwords on entry. Just show them the 3310 and say what's Facebook/Twitter?

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stuarta:

heh

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