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| [01:39:03] | Hydr0p0nX: | dmfrey: i have a firetv that's not being used, I can get it running and updated if you want another test bed |
| [02:28:26] | dmfrey: | Hydr0p0nX: that would be great. I am not sure how you install it on there. I am guessing you sideload it. You would need to build it out of that branch to try the backend discovery. Or i can make the apk for the last released version available |
| [02:31:38] | Hydr0p0nX: | I have a build vm for apache, no reason I couldn't load the android sdk on it too |
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| [06:47:32] | dekarl: | dmfrey: I've been following the issue with exicetement. Looks like there is a bug in the library though? (wrt master/slave detection via boolean values) |
| [06:50:44] | dekarl: | Hydr0p0nX: just sideload it with "adb connect <theip>", "adb install <the apk>", then start it via the settings menu |
| [06:51:17] | dekarl: | there is still this small issue that the app is not recognized as fit for firetv and not shown in the launcher. |
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| [10:24:59] | stuarta: | i really must add monitoring to the mythtv services |
| [10:25:05] | ** stuarta kicks smolt ** | |
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| [15:37:30] | gary_buhrmaster: | stuarta: sorry about the double post to the lyngsat ticket. Wrong click at the wrong time. |
| [15:38:15] | stuarta: | gary_buhrmaster: np, tbh, i don't think lyngsat ever really *approved* anyone using their logo's |
| [15:42:46] | gary_buhrmaster: | stuarta: I no longer use them (or even look at them) as Schedules Direct provides good logos (and I believe curates the logos with the stations assistance)), but as I recall, they do allow them for "personal" use directly downloaded from their site (no, I do not know what they mean by that). |
| [15:43:30] | stuarta: | they periodically do stuff with anti hot linking protection |
| [15:44:06] | stuarta: | it's also tempting to work with thelogodb.com (which is basically the xmbc guys) for logos |
| [15:44:49] | stuarta: | s/xbmc/kodi/ |
| [15:48:42] | stuarta: | there's a pretty large piece of work todo, to move to a better api between frontends <-> services.mythtv.org, and then feed in different data sources to that, and also to manage the icons |
| [15:51:02] | gary_buhrmaster: | One issue may be that (at least in the US) is that many station logos are actually trademarked/servicemarked, and use may require permission. |
| [15:51:10] | gary_buhrmaster: | your legal review may vary. |
| [15:57:21] | stuarta: | which is why if you look at the actual lyngsat page for each logo, the is a <std_disclaimer> under the logo |
| [16:00:40] | gary_buhrmaster: | btw, at some point I will retire the F23 builder (as F23 is no longer supported) and install a (early branched) F26 builder to see what gcc7 might do to the project. |
| [16:02:25] | stuarta: | go for it. i spun up ubuntu 17.04 the other day to see how that went |
| [16:02:25] | gary_buhrmaster: | (I think it was gcc 5? that introduced some introduced some "artifacts" into the build process) |
| [16:04:02] | gary_buhrmaster: | yeah, all the "panic" about qtwebkit. It is not all that complicated, and you can still get webkit, but you have to work harder (and harder). |
| [16:04:20] | stuarta: | hardly harder, its just another package |
| [16:04:25] | stuarta: | install, job done. |
| [16:04:53] | stuarta: | they underlying point that we need to rewrite to the replacement for qtwebkit still stands tho |
| [16:05:16] | gary_buhrmaster: | some people seem to like to make things harder on themselves by building from source. And then they have to up their skill set just a bit. |
| [16:05:35] | stuarta: | which is why i put together the ansible playbooks |
| [16:06:17] | gary_buhrmaster: | those special people will probably want to build ansible from source first. |
| [16:06:43] | stuarta: | since it's python, at least that step can be skipped :) |
| [16:07:04] | gary_buhrmaster: | Sure, then you just have to build python from source. |
| [16:07:22] | stuarta: | for those users there is gentoo |
| [16:10:02] | stuarta: | my focus these days is on making it easier for the 99% of our users to get stuff setup |
| [16:11:36] | gary_buhrmaster: | Anyway, qtwebengine is a "mostly" drop in replacement, but until the project requires Qt 5.3(?), dual path coding may be a PITA to test. |
| [16:12:10] | stuarta: | tbh, anyone still on Qt5.3 is still on about 0.23 |
| [16:12:25] | stuarta: | all the current distros we "support" have at least 5.5 |
| [16:13:30] | gary_buhrmaster: | Sure, but the official requirement is still 5.2, and whenever someone has suggested to increase some value (of gcc, qt, whatever) it seems there has been pushback. |
| [16:13:32] | stuarta: | look at the smolt data http://smolt.mythtv.org/static/stats/stats.html and drill down into the mythtv stats > Qt version. 5.5 is the most common, followed by 4.8.6 (ie 0.27 users) |
| [16:13:45] | ** stuarta breaks some eggs ** | |
| [16:14:31] | stuarta: | my minimum versions of things is dictated by what is shipped in our slowest moving distros, ie debian & ubuntu |
| [16:14:58] | stuarta: | still debian is only a handful of users, compared to the majority on ubuntu |
| [16:16:21] | gary_buhrmaster: | TBF, is not smolt still opt-in? And while the mythbuntu distro actively encouraged participation, you may not necessarily have the entire picture. |
| [16:17:01] | gary_buhrmaster: | (RHEL6 may be your slowest moving distro) |
| [16:17:40] | stuarta: | oh totally, but it gives us a reasonable idea |
| [16:18:23] | ** stuarta wanders off for a bit ** | |
| [16:26:30] | tgm4883: | stuarta: I could stick the website in my monitoring if you want |
| [16:34:29] | tgm4883: | stuarta: there, I have it setup. Now if I just had your email I could notify you |
| [16:39:19] | tgm4883: | stuarta: nm found it. I just set it up for wiki, www, and smolt, not sure what other services there are to check. It should shoot you an email if one of them goes down (It's just doing a regular http 200 check, let me know if I should check for certain text on the page). Let me know if you don't want to receive an email and I can turn that off. |
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| [16:52:55] | stuarta: | tgm4883: code.mythtv.org need checking separately |
| [16:53:06] | stuarta: | code/buildbot |
| [16:53:26] | stuarta: | there are quite a few subpaths |
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| [16:55:23] | tgm4883: | stuarta: if you give me a list I can add them |
| [16:55:40] | tgm4883: | or I can point you to the monitoring software that I use which is pretty easy to setup |
| [16:56:46] | stuarta: | can you drop me an email with the later? i had a poke at icinga (a nagios rewrite) today |
| [16:57:17] | stuarta: | need to sort out the web interface |
| [16:57:23] | stuarta: | make it all work |
| [16:57:41] | tgm4883: | Yea I'll shoot you an email with the info |
| [16:57:53] | stuarta: | thanks, am about to run off so i'll forget otherwise :) |
| [16:58:08] | stuarta: | tgm4883: btw, hopefull 0.28.1 is in the pipeline for 17.04 now? |
| [16:58:13] | stuarta: | *hopefully |
| [16:58:47] | tgm4883: | Releasing soon? |
| [16:58:53] | stuarta: | done already. 1st feb |
| [16:59:09] | stuarta: | :) |
| [16:59:17] | tgm4883: | ah cool |
| [16:59:19] | tgm4883: | I'll get on it |
| [16:59:24] | stuarta: | thanks |
| [17:00:35] | ** stuarta heads off ** | |
| [17:49:42] | dekarl: | stuarta, just move the server to switzerland and use swiss law for the service ;) |
| [17:51:59] | dekarl: | stuarta, IIUIC the low number of registered debian installations is due to the dmo packaging... |
| [17:53:19] | dekarl: | someone has to do the minimal suggested install on every distribution and check what is missing for smolt |
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| [22:15:32] | stuarta: | dekarl: doesn't help that it's not officially packaged for debian, so it's one of the many "source" install |
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