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[08:49:38] stuarta: hrm, now why doesn't that work
[08:51:22] dekarl: stuarta, does #12791 hint that we need a one time database cleanup ISO-8859–1 -> UTF-8 for the icon service?
[08:51:22] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12791 **
[08:51:56] stuarta: potentially
[08:53:00] stuarta: although is the problem the way the query comes in? ie. \"RMC D\xE9couverte\"
[08:53:11] stuarta: is the \xE9 properly encoded?
[08:53:26] stuarta: comment #1 for reference
[08:53:26] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1 **
[08:53:55] stuarta: you'll note that the search string s=... is correct, whilst the csv is not
[08:56:32] dekarl: unlikely, anything >0x80 should be a two/more byte sequence
[08:56:59] dekarl: >=0x80, bit 8 is the signalling for "the next byte belongs to the sequence, too"
[08:57:27] stuarta: the bigger problem we currently have with channel icons is lyngsat's referrer block
[08:58:28] dekarl: E9 == é => \"RMC Découverte\" which appears to be correct https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMC_D%C3%A9couverte
[09:00:18] dekarl: what does that mean? do we have to cache and provide our own CDN or do we have to switch logo providers? (I remember some talk about TheLogoDB which led to me playing with Rails for a "channel database" due to the data quality)
[09:02:01] stuarta: providing our own cache of icons would be potentially problematic, ie. see the mega disclaimer at the bottom of every lyngsat icon detail page
[09:02:05] dekarl: I love how "About us" and "FAQ" are dead links...
[09:02:18] stuarta: on thelogodb?
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[09:03:04] stuarta: the one constant we have is our services endpoint, its now about how we get the data and where from
[09:03:42] dekarl: the mega disclaimer is the usual wall of text. its even missing some common statements!
[09:03:55] stuarta: here's an example http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/tvchannel/de/ZDF-HD.html
[09:07:33] dekarl: its missing "the logo may only be used when referring to the channel" e.g. not to talk about "look how good/bad logos are done"
[09:08:11] dekarl: and the disclaimer is a joke "you need to get express written permission to look at the file" with "updates welcome"
[09:08:47] stuarta: :)
[09:09:17] stuarta: so anyway, i'd be loathe to pull them all down, but on the other hand that would make it far easier to keep the clients up to date
[09:11:41] stuarta: which is why something like thelogodb would be nice, as there appears to be a community already maintaining them
[09:11:48] stuarta: and that is half the problem
[09:12:05] dekarl: just add a "DMCA claims" link to every detail page and use that to clean-wash the dataset. (hint, they are missing the link themselfes)
[09:12:17] stuarta: hah
[09:12:22] dekarl: bbl
[09:12:27] stuarta: ok
[09:18:37] ** stuarta sighs **
[09:19:10] stuarta: now i have to work out docker ipv6 networking in prod, despite it working perfectly in my dev environment
[09:21:29] ** dekarl nods **
[09:22:01] dekarl: "italian FTA" has "DMAX" the UK one... first try, directly hit a random issue :( need to get back to playing with ruby
[09:22:46] stuarta: i've been researching ways to implement a decent frontend for the channel icons
[09:23:04] stuarta: so now i've added angularjs with ruby to my list of things to learn
[09:23:09] dekarl: personal wishlist item. add a checkbox to avoid the "HD" suffixes which make the logos wide and ugly but add no information as we're going to use the preferred one anyway
[09:23:40] stuarta: that can be API v2 :-p
[09:23:41] dekarl: e.g. connect the channels (regional variants, technical variants) to a "main" channel
[09:23:54] stuarta: which will *only* return json
[09:24:08] stuarta: API v1 is what we have now
[09:24:48] dekarl: do we want to extend our channel service to carry such information and provide it to others? aka becoming a metadata-database?
[09:25:07] dekarl: e.g. so TheLogoDB can refer to our stable ids and attach pretty pictures to them
[09:25:38] stuarta: potentially
[09:25:59] stuarta: the only issue I can see is time, and not having enough of it
[09:26:54] stuarta: the reason to get a decent webui on the channel icon service, is then we can start to get the community to approve icons
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[11:34:54] dekarl: Whats people's problem with automated quality assurance? (just banging my head at broken guide data – automated testing for fishy data is not rocket science...)
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[12:10:38] stuarta: taking smolt down for a moment
[12:14:01] stuarta: it's back
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