| Monday, November 28th, 2016, 00:53 UTC | ||
| [00:53:19] | arescorpio (arescorpio!~arescorpi@152.171.94.44) has joined #mythtv | |
| [01:33:17] | kukks: | jya: Hi. I'm aware of those cmdline options. In case of the special "av_dlog()" messages it was a bit more complicated. As can be seen in "log.h", both FF_API_DLOG and DEBUG must be defined to get those av_dlog() messages. I got that working in the meantime using ./configure options |
| [01:47:03] | kukks: | btw – I'm atm trying to get mythfrontend working with the (new) upcoming german DVB-T2 HD stuff. Did a lot of dvbsnoop stuff – but finding the missing pieces in the mythtv sources is really hard for me as a TV newbie :-) |
| [01:49:24] | kukks: | anway – if a more experienced developer needs some info (from dvbsnoop, etc.) – please drop me a note |
| [02:07:02] | pppingme (pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | |
| [02:23:05] | amessina (amessina!~amessina@unaffiliated/amessina) has joined #mythtv | |
| [02:24:07] | amessina (amessina!~amessina@unaffiliated/amessina) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | |
| [02:29:17] | amessina (amessina!~amessina@unaffiliated/amessina) has joined #mythtv | |
| [03:20:15] | peper03 (peper03!~peper03@mythtv/developer/peper03) has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | |
| [03:31:08] | kukks: | http://pastebin.com/t8V1KmYg |
| [03:52:36] | pppingme (pppingme!~pppingme@unaffiliated/pppingme) has joined #mythtv | |
| [04:01:22] | arescorpio (arescorpio!~arescorpi@152.171.94.44) has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | |
| [04:04:18] | peper03 (peper03!~peper03@mythtv/developer/peper03) has joined #mythtv | |
| [04:32:41] | dekarl1 (dekarl1!~dekarl@mythtv/developer/dekarl) has joined #mythtv | |
| [04:33:55] | dekarl (dekarl!~dekarl@mythtv/developer/dekarl) has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) | |
| [07:16:58] | SteveGoodey (SteveGoodey!~steve@host86-151-54-68.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) has joined #mythtv | |
| [07:25:35] | rich0 (rich0!~quassel@gentoo/developer/rich0) has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | |
| [07:45:53] | blahdodo (blahdodo!~blahdodo@69.172.164.248) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | |
| [07:49:31] | blahdodo (blahdodo!~blahdodo@69.172.164.248) has joined #mythtv | |
| [08:46:07] | jab416171 (jab416171!~jab416171@c-76-27-96-12.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | |
| [09:02:20] | jab416171 (jab416171!~jab416171@c-76-27-96-12.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv | |
| [09:03:41] | willcooke (willcooke!~willcooke@willcooke.plus.com) has joined #mythtv | |
| [09:03:42] | willcooke (willcooke!~willcooke@willcooke.plus.com) has quit (Changing host) | |
| [09:03:42] | willcooke (willcooke!~willcooke@ubuntu/member/willcooke) has joined #mythtv | |
| [09:15:06] | Roklobster (Roklobster!~Dirkka@ppp118-209-164-28.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv | |
| [09:17:55] | Merlin83b (Merlin83b!~Daniel@87.48.9.51.dyn.plus.net) has joined #mythtv | |
| [09:18:03] | stuarta: | gbee: i've seen no evidence of startssl ca's not being trusted, i use them and haven't seen any such issues |
| [09:19:27] | stuarta: | Hydr0p0nX: that may be the subjectAltName is now required problem |
| [09:24:17] | ikevin: | normaly startssl is untrusted |
| [09:25:12] | stuarta: | never had a problem with it |
| [09:48:27] | enyc: | ikevin: in where by who? |
| [09:49:05] | ikevin: | https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/92636/m . . . te-authority |
| [09:49:11] | ikevin: | iirc, chrome do the same |
| [09:49:33] | stuarta: | so i'm using chrome with startssl certs right now |
| [09:49:46] | stuarta: | but they have been around for a while |
| [09:50:20] | stuarta: | another case of only new certs |
| [09:50:22] | stuarta: | right |
| [09:51:33] | enyc: | interestingly... "Apple products will trust individual existing certificates issued from this intermediate CA and published to public Certificate Transparency log servers by 2016-09–19." |
| [09:51:42] | enyc: | i.e. can't just backdate another certificate ;p |
| [09:54:37] | ikevin: | using LE is a good and stable alternative to startssl |
| [09:55:31] | enyc: | ikevin: yes, just different requirements, needs auto cert install etc, albeit arguably in a good way, |
| [09:56:46] | gbee: | and those tools don't work well with non-standard installs, more advanced configurations etc |
| [09:58:21] | stuarta: | gbee: that'll be my problem, i use the cert for email security. ie. IMAPS, SMTPS |
| [09:58:35] | stuarta: | 1 of my 2 anyway |
| [10:00:18] | enyc: | somehow need the LE provide for 'wrapper' scripts... |
| [10:00:42] | enyc: | e.g. cat key + new cert + intermediary + root together into THIS file then restarrt THIS service |
| [10:04:04] | stuarta: | yeah, that part is a pain |
| [10:04:23] | stuarta: | and different web servers want different bits concat'd in different ways and in different orders |
| [10:05:02] | stuarta: | like apache take the certificate, and the root certificate chain (ie. root + intermediates) |
| [10:05:26] | stuarta: | nginx likes root cert, with all the intermediates concat'd with the cert |
| [10:05:34] | gbee: | stuarta: likewise, I have cert for mail, and 2–3 other certs for virtual hosts on the server, the roots of each server use rewrites so basically all the scripts I tried were unable to work |
| [10:06:07] | stuarta: | gbee: you almost have to have an endpoint just for letsencrypt, it's a right pita |
| [10:06:19] | enyc: | at the very least it could have a callout for 'trusted' script with 'trusted and pre-validated input' to do the cert-replacement... |
| [10:06:34] | stuarta: | i might have to look at "cheap" ssl now... |
| [10:07:56] | stuarta: | i'm reading the relevant links to see if it's just wosign, or also startssl |
| [10:08:57] | gbee: | when I read up on it yesterday, it seemed Mozilla basically refused to trust StartCom the moment they were acquired by WoSign |
| [10:09:22] | stuarta: | that makes sense, startcom by themselves were fine |
| [10:10:45] | enyc: | warpme: I don't even see flash streaming option, and ASX not behaving for me ;p |
| [10:10:51] | gbee: | particularly since Wosign and Startcom never publically announced the acquisition – it looks like WoSign bought StartCom because StartCom was trusted |
| [10:11:46] | enyc: | gbee: aah yes and the backdating fun ;p |
| [10:11:53] | enyc: | gbee: https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:WoSign_Issues#Iss . . . uary_2016.29 |
| [10:12:22] | stuarta: | enyc: this is the full technical analysis https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C6BlmbeQf . . . 4sMYUcVrR8vQ |
| [10:16:35] | enyc: | warpme: is there anything be useful to test with your html5 streaming? notably may be able to try various androids and linuxy variants...... |
| [10:17:59] | gbee: | enyc: have you tried the webfrontend html5 streaming? |
| [10:18:22] | enyc: | gbee: hrrm i recall finding webfrontend problematic but not experimented recently! maybe can try! |
| [10:18:38] | stuarta: | enyc: did you log all problems as tickets? |
| [10:19:00] | gbee: | outstanding tickets against webfrontend ~1, outstanding tickets against mythweb ~1000 |
| [10:19:29] | stuarta: | i don't believe you :-p |
| [10:21:01] | enyc: | stuarta: no, wouldn't have been at a time i was clued up to make decent issues or know what to expect or anything... |
| [10:21:36] | enyc: | i also recall it being in changelog webfrontend only experimental at present?? |
| [10:21:44] | stuarta: | ah well, give it a try and log tickets please |
| [10:22:01] | enyc: | what is your understanding of its' status? |
| [10:22:41] | gbee: | webfrontend itself isn't experimental, but a couple of components are |
| [10:23:01] | enyc: | which are? |
| [10:23:22] | gbee: | html5 streaming :) |
| [10:23:54] | gbee: | and the schedule editor hadn't received enough testing at release, but I've had no serious complaints about it |
| [10:24:05] | stuarta: | +setup ENOTIMPLEMENTED |
| [10:24:16] | enyc: | i see |
| [10:24:20] | enyc: | drrm not streaming for me |
| [10:24:20] | gbee: | WebFrontend != setup |
| [10:24:28] | enyc: | will test across different devices and browsers |
| [10:24:33] | gbee: | WebFrontend specifically was implementing 'frontend' behaviour |
| [10:24:58] | gbee: | WebSetup or whatever you call it was a separate module |
| [10:24:59] | enyc: | may be worthwhile testing the mythweb streaming part too etc... get ''something'' working and work out matrix of WHAT doesn't work |
| [10:25:02] | stuarta: | gbee: right, however should the "admin" section not be all the setup stuff? i mean some of it is already there |
| [10:25:41] | enyc: | more to the point... where would ''network'' settings go? bind addresses etc etc...? you woludn't want them all in a web-only setup ? |
| [10:25:43] | gbee: | stuarta: it should, but that's separate to the WebFrontend, it just happens to be access via the same menu |
| [10:25:58] | gbee: | accessed |
| [10:26:08] | stuarta: | right |
| [10:26:27] | gbee: | to the point, anything under 'Admin' wasn't written by me (except webfrontend settings menu) |
| [10:26:46] | stuarta: | ok, np |
| [10:27:09] | gbee: | it was written at least 18months or more earlier by Chris Pinkham and Robert McNamara |
| [10:27:51] | gbee: | and for the sake of clarity – 'admin' === Setup in the actual menu |
| [10:28:58] | stuarta: | and it needs work |
| [10:29:49] | gbee: | a lot of work, perhaps a re-write in places |
| [10:30:24] | stuarta: | agreed |
| [10:30:26] | gbee: | note, the WebFrontend isn't finished yet – basic, day to day functionality is there but there's still stuff to do and improvements to make |
| [10:30:33] | enyc: | gbee: understood |
| [10:31:13] | enyc: | and mythweb got patched to make it ''still usable'' (mysql_ phpfuncitons deprecated etc) therefore |
| [10:31:46] | stuarta: | enyc: yes, that's all that's happening to mythweb really. i'll apply patches to keep it running, but i'm not writing any code for it |
| [10:32:30] | enyc: | stuarta: but no reason i shouldn't test the html5 patch above which looks vaguely sensible, and compare what players//frontends I can//can't get working html5 on what devices, able to make useful webfrontend tickets etc |
| [10:32:48] | enyc: | especially if something can work with a certain device and mythweb but not on webfrontend ;p |
| [10:33:02] | stuarta: | yep |
| [10:33:46] | enyc: | stuarta may hopefully figure out the mythbackend-wont-stop issue who knows =)) |
| [10:34:24] | stuarta: | getting a core is easy enough, it's getting the time to actually do it |
| [10:34:36] | stuarta: | s/it/the debugging/ |
| [10:34:41] | enyc: | I'm wondering if my ''edit transports'' error may be worth comparing with a 'from clean database, clean dvb-t scan'. |
| [10:35:31] | enyc: | ok understood wil get back to that... right now offf to screwfix and parts to get ;p |
| [10:35:47] | gbee: | the 'TV' menu is the one which encapsulates the WebFrontend behaviour implemented by me, the 'Video' menu is also webfrontend but was a contribution from someone else and functionality is limited |
| [12:06:15] | stuarta: | fixes/0.28 is edging ever closer to being 50% of the installed base |
| [12:06:22] | stuarta: | it's up to 49.2% |
| [12:24:04] | rich0 (rich0!~quassel@gentoo/developer/rich0) has joined #mythtv | |
| [12:34:06] | Roklobster (Roklobster!~Dirkka@ppp118-209-164-28.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | |
| [12:40:45] | ** stuarta votes for merging https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/pull/125 ** | |
| [12:41:09] | gbee: | seconded |
| [12:46:55] | ** stuarta sets flag +inprogress ** | |
| [12:59:34] | stuarta: | although i can't decide if it should be merged or cherry-picked, the cherry pick is cleaner, but loses the fact that it's actually a merge |
| [12:59:55] | stuarta: | not to mention, i think the merge will cause github to autoclose the pull request |
| [13:30:55] | stuarta: | ffs, forgot to reference the ticket |
| [13:31:15] | gbee: | seeing some serious artefacts on seeking with some h.264 recordings in master |
| [13:33:14] | gbee: | https://ibin.co/33XY53Ssk0Yo.png |
| [13:44:28] | stuarta: | normally only see that on a damaged recording |
| [13:53:12] | stuarta: | gbee: what do you think of https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/pull/62 |
| [13:53:22] | stuarta: | personally, i like the idea |
| [13:54:50] | gbee: | https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/173199 |
| [13:55:56] | gbee: | stuarta: it's a good idea, I remember having an issue with the implementation though. I was planning to rewrite the route handling around angular's ui-router which would fix the inability to bookmark pages |
| [13:56:23] | stuarta: | ah, you going to go angular for the web frontend? |
| [13:56:36] | gbee: | yeah, decided that's probably the way to go with it |
| [13:57:31] | gbee: | I also reasoned that being able to bookmark was a low priority since it's not likely for example that you'll need to regularly return to the schedule editor for a particular programme and everything else is accessible with just 1 click from the menu |
| [14:27:35] | stuarta: | the only suggestion I have, is I regularly use F5 to reload pages, and if there's nothing to tell it where to go back to you end up on the front page again. |
| [14:27:54] | stuarta: | eg. go to scheduled recordings, hit reload, and you are back on the front screen again |
| [14:29:13] | stuarta: | s/scheduled/upcoming |
| [15:30:20] | ikevin: | does it exists some build that include mythtv for rpi3 like libreelec? |
| [15:41:34] | poptix- (poptix-!poptix@poptix.net) has joined #mythtv | |
| [15:42:28] | poptix (poptix!poptix@poptix.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | |
| [16:04:56] | jst (jst!~quassel@email.jstenback.com) has joined #mythtv | |
| [16:13:36] | stuarta: | ikevin: there's a mythtv light for rpi floating around, see the mythtv-users list |
| [16:14:16] | ikevin: | i take a look |
| [16:14:20] | ikevin: | ty |
| [16:29:16] | stuarta: | i'm beginning to think we should just ditch listening on specific addresses and do a wildcard bind instead, as most users will be behind a standard router which will firewall mythtv from the interweb anyway |
| [16:35:17] | ikevin: | this maybe a good stuff to allow wildcard binding ! |
| [16:37:18] | ikevin: | i've 5 media center on 3 different network, i actually use a vpn, so it's slow, if a native "interweb" is implemented it will be better |
| [16:37:57] | stuarta: | no, it's about the users regular issues with setting up backends such that they can connect |
| [16:38:12] | stuarta: | the wildcard bind won't care if the networking isn't up yet |
| [16:38:20] | stuarta: | when it does come up, it'll "just work" |
| [16:39:34] | ikevin: | oh :( |
| [16:45:11] | ikevin: | is there a way to see mythtv working over nat? |
| [16:55:23] | stuarta: | short version, no. use VPN :) |
| [17:20:46] | Chutt__ is now known as Chutt | |
| [17:40:58] | Warped (Warped!~Warped@unaffiliated/warped) has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 50.0/20161104212021]) | |
| [17:56:35] | Warped (Warped!~Warped@unaffiliated/warped) has joined #mythtv | |
| [18:04:58] | Merlin83b (Merlin83b!~Daniel@87.48.9.51.dyn.plus.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) | |
| [18:28:53] | peterbennett (peterbennett!~Peter@mythtv/developer/peterbennett) has joined #mythtv | |
| [18:40:00] | dekarl1 is now known as dekarl | |
| [19:23:47] | warpme (warpme!~warpme@89-67-153-39.dynamic.chello.pl) has joined #mythtv | |
| [19:26:02] | warpme: | enyc: you mention „I don't even see flash streaming optionâ€. Are you using PHP7? If yes then I think You need #12941. |
| [19:26:02] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12941 ** | |
| [19:28:12] | warpme: | regardning usefullness my work with HTML5 live streaming: when Mozilla will fix WEBM stability issue on Firefox – it should allow nice live streaming for recordings on any system where user can launch Firefox. |
| [19:38:06] | dekarl: | kukks: that's only the PMT? |
| [19:38:16] | Roklobster (Roklobster!~Dirkka@ppp118-209-164-28.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv | |
| [19:39:59] | dekarl: | mind to capture a full set (pat,pmt,sdt,ait,nit,bat) and post it to a ticket? |
| [19:42:28] | willcooke (willcooke!~willcooke@ubuntu/member/willcooke) has quit (Quit: Do your hobbies) | |
| [19:45:00] | dekarl: | we also know about stream_typ 0x24 already. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23549971/ |
| [20:10:14] | kukks (kukks!~Guenter@samba/team/kukks) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | |
| [20:19:10] | kukks (kukks!~Guenter@samba/team/kukks) has joined #mythtv | |
| [20:30:03] | warpme (warpme!~warpme@89-67-153-39.dynamic.chello.pl) has quit (Quit: warpme) | |
| [20:42:15] | kukks: | dekarl: will take those captures. Beside dvbsnoop, are there other tools for this purpose around? |
| [20:43:12] | dekarl: | dvbsnoop is my go-to-tools as it usually decodes most stuff. obviously MythTV is ahead of the pack sometimes ;) |
| [21:14:17] | dekarl: | I'm looking at bringing DVB / HDHR setup closer together... any objection? (add use_eit to HDHR, move timeout options around on the DVB side to match the HDHR options, try to let the card<->source connection fill fields with the only available value if there is only one) |
| [21:14:42] | dekarl: | currently wondering how to pick the default value for boolean settings... |
| [21:16:00] | Hydroponx (Hydroponx!~Hydroponx@66-191-154-200.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) | |
| [21:24:28] | stuarta: | dekarl: toss a coin obviously ;-P |
| [21:29:10] | peterbennett (peterbennett!~Peter@mythtv/developer/peterbennett) has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | |
| [21:30:18] | dekarl: | stuarta, I tossed the coin already, now wondering how to keep mythtv-setup from tossing a coin :D |
| [21:31:08] | dekarl: | obligatory reference https://xkcd.com/221/ |
| [21:31:24] | stuarta: | :) |
| [21:35:52] | SteveGoodey (SteveGoodey!~steve@host86-151-54-68.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | |
| [21:35:56] | peterbennett (peterbennett!~Peter@mythtv/developer/peterbennett) has joined #mythtv | |
| [21:36:10] | peterbennett (peterbennett!~Peter@mythtv/developer/peterbennett) has left #mythtv () | |
| [21:36:21] | peterbennett (peterbennett!~Peter@mythtv/developer/peterbennett) has joined #mythtv | |
| [21:36:56] | ** stuarta waves to peterbennett ** | |
| [21:37:15] | peterbennett: | stuarta: :) |
| [21:38:23] | peterbennett: | stuarta: It must be late where you are now. |
| [21:38:33] | stuarta: | 9:38pm |
| [21:38:39] | stuarta: | aka GMT |
| [21:39:07] | peterbennett: | stuarta: Are you in UK? |
| [21:39:12] | stuarta: | yep |
| [21:40:26] | peterbennett: | I will be passing through there in a couple of weeks time. Just two hours in the airport. |
| [21:40:52] | peterbennett: | On my way to South Africa for a vacation. |
| [21:41:08] | stuarta: | not even enough time to catch up and drink beer :( |
| [21:41:55] | peterbennett: | barely enough time to make it through security |
| [21:42:18] | stuarta: | indeed |
| [21:43:06] | stuarta: | have a good holiday |
| [21:43:13] | peterbennett: | Thank you |
| [21:47:44] | kukks: | dekarl: https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12945 Will add more captures later tonight... |
| [21:50:11] | dekarl: | kukks: thanks, I already saw the mail notice :) NIT would be nice, too |
| [21:51:17] | dekarl: | CAT isn't that interesting as CI+ isn't really supported |
| [21:51:59] | kukks: | dekarl: ouch, forgot to mention NIT, have that on my list |
| [21:52:27] | dekarl: | if its on the list, then all is good |
| [21:59:15] | peterbennett (peterbennett!~Peter@mythtv/developer/peterbennett) has left #mythtv () | |
| [22:00:37] | kukks: | dekarl: "Das Erste HD" and "ZDF HD" use different (audio) codecs. Will also catch that... |
| [22:12:52] | kukks: | dekarl: should i include the hexdump in dvbsnoop (for some PIDs), or always use option "-nph" ? |
| [22:12:53] | stuarta: | and just like that mediawiki EOL 1.26 |
| [22:44:03] | mad_enz (mad_enz!~mad_enz@2607:f090:488d:2ab:19a7:9ea3:3d14:e773) has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | |
| [22:52:50] | gregl (gregl!~greg@cpe-66-67-122-101.nycap.res.rr.com) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | |
| [22:56:29] | mad_enz (mad_enz!~mad_enz@2607:f090:488d:2ab:1979:5b7a:d344:e2b3) has joined #mythtv | |
| [22:57:45] | arescorpio (arescorpio!~arescorpi@175-28-245-190.fibertel.com.ar) has joined #mythtv | |
| [23:20:38] | kukks: | drop me a note when further info is needed |
| [23:57:20] | ShapeShifter499 (ShapeShifter499!~ShapeShif@unaffiliated/shapeshifter499) has joined #mythtv | |
IRC Logs collected by
BeirdoBot.
Please use the above link to report any bugs.
