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| [03:03:09] | knightr: | peterbennett, lol, I didn't realize it worked that way, essentially mimicking keys... |
| [03:04:10] | knightr: | It's not perfect now (I need to dig up the right key to reprogram, I probably got the wrong one) but it's quite nice... |
| [03:06:35] | knightr: | s/to reprogram/to reprogram for some features/ |
| [03:07:52] | knightr: | it's unfortunate the number keys don't work, I wonder if the fact that my TV (LG 60LM7200) thinks MythTV is a BD-R player might be the reason it doesn't send those keys to the adapter... |
| [03:08:27] | knightr: | (or maybe LG just didn't bother to have those keys usable for anything but the TV itself...) |
| [03:10:18] | knightr: | I am running master I compiled yesterday and I can access live TV from the program guide by accessing the "guide options" menu... |
| [03:10:37] | knightr: | was it supposed to be accessible from somewhere else? |
| [03:10:50] | knightr: | Thank you and have a nice day! |
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| [03:44:26] | knightr: | peterbennett, this is nothing new, I had it before your patch but do you know what "CECAdapter: SL initialised" is about? |
| [03:44:40] | knightr: | I get a very high number of those.. |
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| [03:47:07] | knightr: | this comes from CSLCommandHandler::SetSLInitialised(void) in libcec... |
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| [08:08:08] | stuarta: | morning all |
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| [10:17:51] | dekarl: | hmm, looks like the exception / line number is not in the file that was called, but somewhere else. Is the uncaughtExceptionBacktrace() more helpful in the log? wrt #12739 |
| [10:17:51] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12739 ** | |
| [10:20:06] | stuarta: | it's odd that one |
| [10:48:50] | stuarta: | woot rpi shipping today |
| [10:50:02] | stuarta: | might have it by the weekend |
| [10:50:20] | stuarta: | and then i'll be busy all weekend and not even get to look at it |
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| [11:39:37] | stuartm: | usually how it goes |
| [11:40:22] | stuartm: | looking like I might start using one as my primary frontend |
| [11:42:47] | stuartm: | if I do, then I'll have to improve ui performance, a little sluggish |
| [11:42:58] | stuarta: | stuartm: i didn't get a chance to capture the stacktrace from a new frontend setup segfault the other day. are you able to reproduce it? |
| [11:43:25] | stuartm: | I haven't had time to try yet |
| [11:46:08] | stuarta: | ahah! |
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| [14:17:03] | bill6502: | stuartm: Services API question. Right now, the master/0.28 version for the Dvr service is 6.1. MitchCapper's patch adds the new {Get,Set}SavedBookmark endpoints. In master, should the version go to 7.0 and a backport to 0.28 would change to 6.2? |
| [14:17:37] | stuartm: | 6.2 for both |
| [14:17:57] | stuartm: | major version changes for updates which break backwards compatibility only |
| [14:18:14] | stuartm: | i.e. renaming of existing endpoints or changes to required arguments |
| [14:18:57] | stuartm: | additions to returned metadata or new endpoints don't prevent older clients working and hence don't merit a major version bump |
| [14:19:59] | stuartm: | version numbers aren't related to the release version, but the capabilities of the API only |
| [14:20:14] | dekarl: | Has anybody else got a job offer from http://sourced.ai/ based on their git mail address and mythtv contributions? Their bigdata thinks I'm a good fit for "Senior PHP Engineer" at a new startup. |
| [14:20:57] | stuartm: | not that outfit no |
| [14:21:29] | stuartm: | but I've had plenty of offers based on headhunters trawling github |
| [14:22:38] | bill6502: | stuartm: ty |
| [14:25:40] | dekarl: | ty. I like the idea, but that match is a false positive that passed human review. So I don't feel bad to have paid for it (they are supported by EU funds) |
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| [15:23:04] | ** stuarta sighs ** | |
| [15:27:51] | dekarl: | sigh... best of gcc-6 release notes just passed by... "This eliminates common null pointer checks but also breaks some non-conforming code-bases (such as Qt-5, Chromium, KDevelop)." |
| [15:37:50] | stuarta: | well that's going to break a *lot* of shit |
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| [16:13:22] | dekarl: | this time they are breaking C++ stuff, last time (4.9) it was C stuff, like BIND (who needs domain names anyway?) |
| [16:17:00] | gary_buhrmaster: | dekarl: There is an option to maintain the existing checks, as I recall (and also the ability to scan the code for potential issues). |
| [16:21:02] | gary_buhrmaster: | dekarl: I remember running mythtv through a (pre) 6.0 gcc version, and it compiled (but I never tested the result, just wanted to make sure we didnt fall into another equivalent of the 4.9 issue with devirtualization (was it devirtualization?)) |
| [16:28:23] | dekarl: | gary_buhrmaster: I was surprised to see a release that knowingly breaks well known software without referencing the submitted patches or at least upstream bug reports. "I know I'm shooting you in the foot, but its your fault because your foot shouldn't have stepped there in the first place" |
| [16:29:19] | dekarl: | leading to upstream "discovering and wondering" http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/develop . . . /025153.html |
| [16:32:02] | dekarl: | also a nice idea (since GCC 5), lets call the next release 29.1, because everyone knows that no one installs a release x.0... |
| [16:57:54] | gary_buhrmaster: | The gcc team has made some interesting choices in the last few releases. |
| [17:38:05] | dekarl: | reminds me of a dayjob software project http://picpaste.de/248669546317b50ae4f8cdc2c9afad08.png |
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| [19:29:43] | peterbennett: | knightr: What is your time zone? I keep missing you here. |
| [19:30:21] | peterbennett: | knightr: Both of My TVs also do not send the number keys, although that is supported in the specification. |
| [19:32:05] | peterbennett: | knightr: I don't understand your question about accessing Live TV from the guide. You can access Live TV from the guide or from the main menu. |
| [19:33:11] | peterbennett: | knightr: My time zone is USA Eastern time. |
| [19:47:56] | gary_buhrmaster: | peterbennett: Sending the number keys over cec is (very) TV implementation specific (which includes model and year). |
| [19:48:32] | gary_buhrmaster: | peterbennett: And it is not unusual that some keys will only be forwarded if you announce yourself as certain device types. |
| [19:48:38] | peterbennett: | gary_buhrmaster: Well so far it is 0 out of 3 TVs |
| [19:50:08] | peterbennett: | gary_buhrmaster: The device type is set as Playback in the code. I suspect if i set it to something else it may send the number keys and omit the Play, stop, pause etc. keys |
| [19:52:37] | peterbennett: | The choices are TV RECORDING_DEVICE RESERVED TUNER PLAYBACK_DEVICE AUDIO_SYSTEM |
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| [20:03:31] | gary_buhrmaster: | peterbennett: I was under the impression that a device can announce itself as supporting multiple types (with multiple logical addresses?) |
| [20:04:27] | gary_buhrmaster: | peterbennett: And I can imagine that only tuner or recording might get number keys in some implementations (but, refer to my previous statement that every implementation is special). |
| [20:05:19] | peterbennett: | gary_buhrmaster: Maybe, I can look into it |
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| [20:52:29] | dekarl: | is this a sane fix for coverity id #1358509? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16088542/ |
| [21:05:55] | natanojl: | dekarl: I think so, but why is it using the heap to begin with, the class only contains a pointer? |
| [21:13:09] | dekarl: | natanojl: good question, because the service classes don't have state? |
| [21:22:06] | dekarl: | natanojl: ohh. The heap instead of the stack? I was thinking that there could be a manager as a member that is used across function calls. but that's something else |
| [21:22:07] | natanojl: | dekarl: I don't think so. There are other uses of VideoMetadataListManager in there that deletes the object when it is done with it. Since it is only 8 bytes big I would have allocated it on the stack |
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| [22:11:37] | stuarta: | oh you shitty channel-icon service, you take html requests and stuff back text response even if nobody asked for them |
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| [22:35:34] | ** stuarta goes to bed ** | |
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| [23:38:47] | knightr: | peterbennett, my time zone is the same as yours... ;-) ;-) ;-) |
| [23:39:49] | knightr: | I can't access IRC from work... |
| [23:40:41] | knightr: | about live TV, I was confirming what you were saying about being able to access it from the program guide |
| [23:40:52] | knightr: | (assuming I correctly understood what you said) |
| [23:41:28] | knightr: | that said I read the latest posts on the mailing list, it actually depends on the type of menu it seems... |
| [23:43:39] | knightr: | what gary_buhrmaster mentioned is essentially what I was wondering about |
| [23:44:09] | knightr: | ie if it was possible to have the device pretend it is something else to be able to receive additional keys |
| [23:46:18] | knightr: | but I tried with cec-client to have it pretend it was every type of device (even multiple at a time) and it did not make any difference... |
| [23:46:32] | knightr: | cec-client -t prta |
| [23:46:53] | gary_buhrmaster: | knightr: note that being another device type and getting additional keys only works with *some* implementations (at least if the reports on forums such as avsforums are to be believed). LG is no doubt special in its own way. |
| [23:46:54] | knightr: | (to have it pretend it is everything but I did try each one separately) |
| [23:47:11] | knightr: | apparently so |
| [23:47:39] | knightr: | they even send their own custom code (apparently) for some things where real legit code exists... |
| [23:48:23] | gary_buhrmaster: | The answer (by some) was apparently to purchase a new TV after taking a (in their case) RPi to the store and testing to see if they could get all the keycodes they wanted. |
| [23:48:43] | knightr: | and during my lunch break today I read that apparently prentending to be a tuner gets it to decode nothing at all.. |
| [23:48:54] | knightr: | yikes.. |
| [23:49:02] | knightr: | I won't change my TV for that... |
| [23:49:12] | knightr: | ;-) ;-) ;-) |
| [23:50:22] | knightr: | http://irq5.io/2013/10/27/exploring-hdmi-cec/ |
| [23:50:27] | knightr: | is pretty interesting... |
| [23:50:38] | gary_buhrmaster: | I gave up on considering CEC years ago after reading about all the issues (never did more than look in its direct, to be honest). |
| [23:50:38] | knightr: | From it: |
| [23:50:39] | knightr: | There are 4 types of devices defined in the CEC spec: Recording Device, Playback Device, Tuner, Audio System. You can specify how cec-client identifies itself using the --type parameter. Only the Recording Device will have the buttons forwarded to it. Other devices such as a Playback Device or Tuner will not receive remote button presses. |
| [23:51:16] | knightr: | But I don't know if he said that because he read a spec somewhere |
| [23:51:23] | knightr: | or just by trial and error... |
| [23:52:30] | gary_buhrmaster: | As I recall, what gets forwarded depends on the manufacturer (and mostly what other devices that manufacturer built and what it need/could use). CEC might claim interoperability, but it really all about the manufactuer. |
| [23:53:09] | knightr: | in theory it's pretty nice.. |
| [23:53:18] | knightr: | I just wish it was in practice... |
| [23:53:40] | knightr: | it kinda reminds me of my old CD changer |
| [23:54:01] | knightr: | (though in this case it was proprietary stuff...) |
| [23:54:20] | knightr: | Sony changed the spec between models |
| [23:54:32] | knightr: | and my older model got orphaned... |
| [23:55:08] | gary_buhrmaster: | Note a problem from Sony's perspective. Just buy new "everything" and it will work again. |
| [23:57:32] | knightr: | a company made a device to have the newer changer controlled by a PC but my older changer could never interact well with the older spec stuff and neither could the newer players... |
| [23:57:53] | knightr: | you are right and it's not surprising they did it either... |
| [23:57:55] | knightr: | brb |
| [23:58:15] | gary_buhrmaster: | And that is why "universal remotes" are still the popular choice. |
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