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Monday, April 25th, 2016, 00:13 UTC
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[08:19:22] stuarta: dekarl: thanks for sorting out the mythweb group by issues
[08:24:57] stuarta: hmmm, backend, why you throw "Type conversion already registered from type QList<QObject*> to type QtMetaTypePrivate::QSequentialIterableImpl"
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[08:45:56] stuarta: stuartm: thanks for fixing the backend status via webfrontend
[08:46:18] stuarta: my only comment is the background is white, rather than the light blue like other parts of the frontend
[08:47:41] stuartm: clear your cache
[08:47:51] stuartm: :)
[08:50:20] stuartm: could still use some improvements in the looks department, but I'll probably keep that for the next release since I want to move the html out of the C++ and into a QSP template
[08:50:23] stuarta: damn it shift-f5 doesn't work on that page
[08:51:31] stuarta: that's an improvement
[08:52:12] stuarta: i'm a big fan of "solarized dark" as a general web theme
[08:52:46] stuarta: there's also a light variant for those who prefer light backgrounds
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[09:03:20] stuarta: dekarl: i think we can close #12713 now. what do you think?
[09:03:20] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12713 **
[09:03:45] stuarta: the next big issue is #12735
[09:03:45] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12735 **
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[09:17:43] stuarta: i can even reproduce it, i just have no idea where it could come from.
[09:18:11] stuarta: it segfaults on a QEvent, which is unusual
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[11:16:30] stuartm: stuarta: generally means that it's segfaulting at the point where that event is handled
[11:16:52] stuartm: if you can attach the backtrace to the ticket I can take a look
[11:17:24] stuarta: i'll grab it in ~4hrs or so
[11:17:31] stuarta: very easy to reproduce tho
[11:17:44] stuarta: mv your .mythtv directory out of the way
[11:17:59] stuarta: then startup the frontend, and try to configure it. it'll segfault
[11:19:11] stuarta: i did this on a remote frontend and it segfault's when you try to save the config
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[14:05:05] stuarta: ugh, the xml design for the master iconmap is horrible
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[15:07:14] stuartm: huh? Master iconmap was ditched years ago
[15:09:34] stuarta: still gets queries AFAICT
[15:09:56] stuarta: maybe i should just kill it off???
[15:12:29] stuarta: that gives you an idea of the legacy crap in the channel icon lookup service
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[15:19:44] stuarta: stuartm: even so, it's an interesting learning exercise to recode it
[15:21:26] stuartm: hasn't been updated for at least 6–7 years
[15:21:48] stuartm: lyngsat is the main source these days
[15:21:55] sphery: stuarta: I agree that killing it off would be good
[15:22:21] stuarta: fwiw, i'm just trying to ensure the new channel icon service responds to everything the old one does
[15:22:33] stuarta: that's phase 1, phase 2 is to improve
[15:22:57] stuarta: phase 1b, reimplement scrapers. that perl script works but is horrible
[15:23:12] sphery: sounds good--it's been a mess because of the different/imcompatible things we have
[15:23:20] stuarta: oh completely
[15:23:31] sphery: we should really remove all the --*-icon-map stuff from mythfilldatabase, too
[15:23:55] stuarta: as part of phase 2, i can add versioning to the api, and we can extend and fix issues in a v2 api
[15:23:57] sphery: probably the main source of master iconmap requests
[15:24:09] sphery: nice
[15:24:16] stuarta: sphery: remove or make it use the other methods
[15:24:24] sphery: I'd say remove
[15:24:44] stuarta: wouldn't mfdb users then lose an easy way to add icons?
[15:24:45] sphery: use frontend and/or web frontend for managing icons for channels (where you can actually see them)
[15:24:52] stuarta: tbh, the current mythtv-setup way is a right pain
[15:25:05] stuarta: sphery: neither of those have been implemented yet ;-)
[15:25:18] sphery: and, if we really must have a command-line, "you get what we give you or you have to assume it matches based on names" approach, we could put it in mythutil
[15:25:24] stuarta: personally i'd like to see it in the webfrontend
[15:25:33] stuarta: where you manage everything else related to channels
[15:25:39] sphery: yeah, I guess the current gui one is in mythtv-setup
[15:25:47] sphery: (and, yes, it really needs some work)
[15:26:08] sphery: but it really should be moved to mythfrontend since it doesn't require a backend restart to change a channel's icon :)
[15:26:55] stuarta: requiring a backend restart is a separate issue
[15:27:09] sphery: I think the webfrontend one would be the most-used approach, though
[15:27:39] stuarta: knowing the icon sets that can come back, scrolling through 100's of icons with a remote would suck badly
[15:27:40] sphery: it allows you to see a bunch (even all) channels at once in an easy-to-navigate (and with browser find in page, etc) format
[15:27:47] sphery: agreed
[15:27:48] stuarta: yep
[15:28:53] sphery: I imagine a useful version of a frontend one being more of an option from the guide--like a "live" setting, where you can change something where it exists/where it's used so you see the changes immediately
[15:30:40] sphery: so basically just change the icon for the currently-selected channel (one-by-one edits/updates)
[15:31:17] sphery: I really need to get some other projects done so I can put in some time on MythTV, again, though :(
[15:32:05] stuarta: not to mention, most responses are plain text CSV response with the query POST'd in
[15:32:17] stuarta: i'm sure that violates REST principles in several different ways
[15:32:31] stuarta: i would like to see all responses in json
[15:32:59] stuarta: POST = update, not information retrieval
[15:42:01] dekarl: stuarta, the upnp thing is also high on the list. Random instance https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=1435
[15:45:11] stuarta: stuartm: ^^^
[15:47:10] dekarl: fwiw, the single channel icon lookup should die in favor of just picking a managed lineup based on your channel scan (or something similar). Lets semi-automatically manage the lineups at services.mythtv.org. Central lineups allow us to pre-configure stuff like "channels that are the same from a schedule point of view", so new users actually get the benefits of a proper scheduler
[15:47:43] ** stuarta puts that down for phase 3 **
[15:48:12] stuarta: so near, yet so far
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[15:55:54] gary_buhrmaster: FWIW, for those in Schedules Direct land, they seem to provide reasonably acceptable(*) icons for many channels (the exceptions are the PEGs, small local independents, and provider specific stuff).
[15:56:43] gary_buhrmaster: (*) Except for the fact they are usually transparent background icons, which can be problematic with some backgrounds.
[15:56:57] stuarta: i think the main users of it these days are dvb-s users
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[16:00:08] gary_buhrmaster: I remember the days of manually curating my icons. Many hours over many days, searching for the least bad match. I admit I do not miss not doing that any more.
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[16:02:17] stuarta: right, i'm off for a while
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[18:46:33] peterbennett1: knightr: I have put my patch for CEC https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12746
[18:46:49] peterbennett1: knightr: If you can test it, would be helpful.
[18:47:47] peterbennett1: What is the command that pops up a ticket URL into the chat?
[18:48:09] dekarl: #12746?
[18:48:16] dekarl: #12746
[18:48:16] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12746 **
[18:51:55] dekarl: [12345]
[18:51:56] MythLogBot: SVN 12345: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythweb/commit/18d0b946
[18:57:16] peterbennett1: dekarl: thanks :)
[19:01:01] dekarl: trac details #12746
[19:01:01] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12746 **
[19:02:29] dekarl: close... https://github.com/MythTV/beirdobot/blob/mast . . . /trac.c#L987 the urls that this plugin gets the data from work on our installation
[19:16:10] stuarta: not very complicated that
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[21:00:23] stuartm: dekarl1: actually that would be useful, 'close #12345', 'assign #12345' etc
[21:01:47] stuartm: assign #ALL to dekarl
[21:03:59] stuarta: hahaha
[21:04:39] stuarta: that would have to come from a voiced user, and the devs start to be voiced
[21:04:46] stuarta: (by default)
[21:04:59] stuarta: otherwise there would be a lot of ticket sillinesss.....
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[21:11:56] MitchCapper: db
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[21:14:24] stuartm: ec
[21:18:19] stuarta: woot, well that's that steaming pile of legacy crap implemented
[21:19:28] jheizer_: haha, congrats? :)
[21:21:17] stuarta: kinda, it's another thing i can cross off the list to implement
[21:22:07] jheizer_: on to the fun part
[21:22:08] stuarta: only 2 main bits left, finish handling blocked icons, and the most important one, submit
[21:22:29] stuarta: then the fun part, writing the tests for it all
[21:22:46] stuarta: this is DDT rather than TDD
[21:23:06] jheizer_: I'm busy feeling like a moron over here. Not sure if something change or I am missing something or what. But I cannot mount a cisf or nfs share under 16.04
[21:23:11] jheizer_: and it is driving me crazy
[21:23:20] ** stuarta issues meh! **
[21:24:47] jheizer_: broke down and dist-upgraded the server that is the target of both, so mysql 5.7 here I come
[21:25:22] stuarta: we've fixed that breakage at least
[21:26:44] jheizer_: ha, broke on install
[21:27:06] jheizer_: it is mad about mythbackend and it's dependency chain
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[21:42:56] jheizer_: had to purge out all of mythtv and mysql-server and reinstall it all
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[21:44:37] RavenII: Is mythtv easy to build?
[21:44:58] RavenII: For someone who has very....VERY little experience in programming..
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[21:56:59] tgm4883: RavenII: why build then?
[22:01:24] tgm4883: RavenII: oh, windows. No idea
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