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| [03:59:28] | tgm4883: | How is the mythweb UPNP supposed to work? |
| [03:59:47] | tgm4883: | because it appears very much broken in a clean 16.04 install |
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| [06:44:49] | lomion0815: | !lastseen dekarl |
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| [09:04:12] | stuarta: | morning all |
| [09:04:32] | stuarta: | tgm4883: i didn't think mythweb had *any* upnp support |
| [09:16:32] | stuartm: | not upnp, but it has basic SSDP |
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| [09:24:55] | ** stuarta is surprised ** | |
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| [09:51:30] | dekarl1: | !seen lomion0815 |
| [09:51:30] | MythLogBot: | lomion0815 is here and has been idle for 3 hours 6 minutes 41 seconds |
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| [09:51:45] | stuarta: | !seen sanity |
| [09:51:45] | MythLogBot: | sanity has not been seen here |
| [09:51:50] | stuarta: | :) |
| [09:51:54] | dekarl: | oh noes |
| [09:53:17] | dekarl: | I think mythweb uses "the magic multicast thingy, be it UPNP/SSDP or whatever" for things like enabling/disabling recordings. At least that is what failed in my test, likely due to the breaking fixes in ipv6 link local address handling ;) |
| [10:03:48] | stuartm: | magic multicast thingy is SSDP :) |
| [10:04:17] | stuartm: | it's only used to locate the mythbackend to access the database/protocol |
| [10:09:42] | lomion0815: | dekarl: You wrote in #12702 that we could extract the parental guidance rating from the EIT description and add it to the data structure. Is this information then only used in the program details screen? |
| [10:09:42] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12702 ** | |
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| [10:27:23] | ** stuarta ponders which bit of the channel-icon lookup service to attack next ** | |
| [10:31:31] | dekarl: | lomion0815: grepping around that is the only place I found |
| [10:33:34] | dekarl: | in mythweb, git grep sendCommand... used for e.g. STOP_RECORDING and FORGET_RECORDING |
| [10:40:25] | dekarl: | stuartm, you're right. SSDP is only used to find the database by mythweb. |
| [10:44:43] | dekarl: | lomion0815: where are you missing the rating? maybe it can be added there |
| [10:50:05] | lomion0815: | In the program details we just move the information from the description a few lines down into the rating field ... not very useful ... |
| [10:51:02] | lomion0815: | Having a icon in the guide grid or in the recordings list would be much better |
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| [11:59:53] | dekarl: | lomion0815: sounds like a plan, but that is a separate step :) I'm mostly working on the "get the free form text into machine readable fields, so something great can be done automatically later in the pipeline". |
| [12:01:01] | dekarl: | IIRC the rating of videos can be used for the access control. That could be done for recordings, too. But first the data needs to be there and then the mechanism. |
| [12:02:23] | dekarl: | also a filter "show me upcoming movies with good user rating and rated up to 6years" for the guide would be nice. I don't think an icon on the grid is that useful |
| [12:03:07] | dekarl: | that reminds me to verify that >32bit fixups work... |
| [12:07:47] | stuarta: | is that the same user access control that hasn't really worked??? |
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| [13:24:02] | tgm4883: | stuarta: stuartm not sure the difference between ssdp and upnp, just going off what kormoc called it in the mythweb Apache file https://github.com/MythTV/mythweb/commit/5178 . . . e63ef817d7e5 |
| [13:24:28] | tgm4883: | It's not working in 16.04 |
| [13:28:59] | stuartm: | it's SSDP, UPnP relies on SSDP for discovery of servers and renderers but SSDP is a standalone protocol |
| [13:29:46] | stuartm: | it's always had trouble with firewalls that block multicast |
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| [13:59:16] | stuartm: | tgm4883: can you grab a backend log with -v upnp when loading mythweb? |
| [13:59:39] | stuartm: | first step is determining whether the request even reaches the backend |
| [14:00:20] | stuarta: | and if the backend is started with upnp disabled, it'll never work |
| [14:04:36] | stuartm: | if possible, try to eliminate other upnp devices from the network while grabbing those logs, there's a constant stream of upnp discovery/notice requests bouncing around otherwise which makes it harder to identify the ones we're interested in |
| [14:05:20] | stuartm: | TVs, STBs, Optical disc players, phones, tablets, PCs and more |
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| [14:18:39] | tgm4883: | stuartm: when would I see the packets from mythweb? When mythweb is started, or when the page is visited |
| [14:18:50] | tgm4883: | I don't see anything in the logs when I access the page |
| [14:19:19] | stuartm: | when the page is visited, php only executes on demand |
| [14:19:22] | tgm4883: | I do see a bunch of SSDP stuff when I start it through |
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| [14:19:36] | tgm4883: | stuartm: ok then it's not sending from mythweb |
| [14:19:46] | tgm4883: | well, mythbackend isn't receiving |
| [14:19:56] | tgm4883: | IDK if mythweb is sending or it's getting blocked elsewhere |
| [14:19:57] | stuartm: | any firewalls on the machines? |
| [14:20:09] | tgm4883: | ufw inactive |
| [14:20:43] | tgm4883: | nothing in iptables |
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| [15:30:42] | stuartm: | hmm, I'll have to let someone else speculate on the mythweb side |
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| [16:39:24] | JohnBergqvist: | I Have a problem whereby despite MythTV telling me my AV reciever supports AC3 (and it does), it doesn't bitstream it (a stereo AC3 audio track) to the reciever over HDMI, instead gives me a PCM mix. |
| [16:40:00] | JohnBergqvist: | 5.1 AC3 files & other formats (DTS etc.) bistream OK, but why not AC3 stereo? |
| [16:40:10] | JohnBergqvist: | using ALSA btw |
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| [17:57:17] | peterbennett1: | Anybody have any comment on my email? With 0.28 new remote frontend it segfaults if config.sys is not there... Is that a bug or it it just me? |
| [17:57:31] | peterbennett1: | *config.xml |
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| [19:25:40] | stuarta: | peterbennett1: any segfault is a bug |
| [19:27:04] | peterbennett1: | stuarta: Clearly, but I am wondering what the correct way is to setup a remote frontend, as it is now it seems to be broken unless I am mistaken. |
| [19:28:23] | peterbennett1: | stuarta: IMHO there are more serious and less serious seg faults. If it seg faults consistently and you cannot get past it that is more serious. |
| [19:29:35] | stuarta: | agreed |
| [19:32:42] | peterbennett1: | stuarta: The way 0.27 worked with a remote frontend was very friendly but rather insecure in that it had an API that it called to the backend to retrieve the database password. So I am wondering if that was supposed to change now since it no longer works. |
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| [19:41:06] | stuarta: | peterbennett1: the api call no longer works? |
| [19:44:37] | peterbennett1: | stuarta: I don't know if the api call works, the initial startup of a remote frontend no longer works. |
| [19:49:08] | stuarta: | peterbennett1: do you have a stack trace from the segfault? |
| [19:50:49] | peterbennett1: | stuarta: No, I can follow up on it and look into it. But I think anybody can reproduce it, by removing config.xml and starting the frontend. |
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| [19:53:49] | stuarta: | peterbennett1: okay 0.28 or master or both? |
| [19:54:14] | peterbennett1: | fixes/0.28 |
| [19:54:34] | peterbennett1: | Not sure about master, I have the feeling that master may be OK |
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| [19:54:56] | stuarta: | i seriously doubt there have been sufficient changes for them to behave differently |
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| [19:55:26] | peterbennett1: | I will try it quickly now |
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| [19:56:00] | ** stuarta is trying quickly too ** | |
| [19:58:27] | stuarta: | aye, segfaults here too |
| [19:58:53] | peterbennett1: | stuarta: Strange, I tried several times, first time failed other times worked. |
| [19:59:48] | peterbennett1: | stuarta: Is it first prompting with country and lang, then seg faulting? That is what I saw. |
| [20:00:42] | stuarta: | yes, same here |
| [20:00:55] | stuarta: | when i hit save at least |
| [20:03:09] | stuarta: | well that's hardly new code, Chutt wrote it back in 2003.... |
| [20:04:10] | peterbennett1: | stuarta: It is now working for me every time, maybe I should shut the backend and see what happens |
| [20:04:30] | stuarta: | peterbennett1: check if anything was saved into .mythtv |
| [20:04:52] | stuarta: | i'm not sure moving config.xml is sufficient, it might need the empty directory |
| [20:05:12] | peterbennett1: | stuarta: Yes – I remove the whole .mythtv, and it recreates it, does not even prompt for country and language |
| [20:05:33] | stuarta: | hmm, i moved mine out of the way and it prompted etc |
| [20:06:00] | peterbennett1: | If I shut the backend, then it prompts for country and language, then seg faults |
| [20:07:00] | MitchCapper: | stuartm re: video file "bookmarks use byte offset, and http streaming allowing seeking by byte offset", thats interesting, i was getting a number that seemed to be divisible out to around 30 so I was thinking fps. Unfortunately that doesn't work for HLS live streaming, and would make it harder for 3rd party players that don't export a current byte offset option even when playing a native file |
| [20:07:00] | MitchCapper: | . This isn't a feature I feel is super needed but if a good concept can be thought of for how best to implement service API video file bookmarking im happy to give it a wack. |
| [20:07:55] | peterbennett1: | stuarta: I suppose sometimes it manages to find the backend by using some sort of search, then it is ok, but if it fails to find the backend it seg faults |
| [20:09:09] | peterbennett1: | stuarta: I think I am wrong about master being OK – it is probably the same as fixes/0.28 |
| [20:09:22] | stuarta: | i expect it to be |
| [20:11:13] | stuarta: | now why does it die in QEvent |
| [20:11:57] | peterbennett1: | stuarta: before it seg faults there are many log messages where it is trying to connect to 127.0.0.1:6543, |
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| [20:12:24] | stuarta: | yes same here |
| [20:12:33] | peterbennett1: | So it is assuming that the backend is local, That is not necessarily true |
| [20:12:38] | stuarta: | but that's in the search phase, before it asks for the config |
| [20:13:02] | stuarta: | i don't think it is, it's done it that way for years, looks locally first |
| [20:14:35] | peterbennett1: | Yes it could look locally first, but so many times? |
| [20:16:07] | stuarta: | not ideal, but i don't think that's the current source of issues |
| [20:17:08] | stuarta: | peterbennett1: what qt5 version are you on? |
| [20:17:43] | peterbennett1: | Do you know the command to find that? |
| [20:17:47] | stuarta: | i'm on 5.6.0–9.fc23 |
| [20:17:57] | stuarta: | erm... yes... one sec |
| [20:19:02] | stuarta: | interesting. i just found qtdiag, which dumps much useful info |
| [20:20:04] | peterbennett1: | oh the startup log has it – 5.5.1 |
| [20:20:23] | peterbennett1: | This is compiled and run on xenial |
| [20:20:52] | stuarta: | ok, just wanted to quickly see if it may have been because of the 5.6 update on f23 |
| [20:20:59] | stuarta: | so unlikely that |
| [20:21:38] | stuarta: | hmmm, null event |
| [20:22:27] | stuarta: | well it kinda looks like one to me |
| [20:22:46] | peterbennett1: | stuarta: I just tried with 0.27 and you are right, it has multiple messages about connecting to localhost before it prompts for the database credentials |
| [20:23:04] | jheizer: | Want me to try it on 14.04? Don't have anything on there to debug with or anything, but I can at least tell you if it fails or not. |
| [20:23:21] | stuarta: | jheizer: yeah, just move aside .mythtv in the test users home dir |
| [20:23:59] | jheizer: | k, 2 sec |
| [20:25:27] | jheizer: | hmm went straght into the mainmenu |
| [20:25:38] | jheizer: | must have one of the old style configs somewhere |
| [20:25:59] | jheizer: | yeah |
| [20:26:02] | stuarta: | yeah, you have to move the whole directory |
| [20:26:17] | jheizer: | well I had configs in /etc/mythtv |
| [20:26:22] | jheizer: | so I think it found them |
| [20:26:25] | peterbennett1: | ubuntu wily with 5.4.2 fails differently – just says Error in my_thread_global_end(): 6 threads didn't exit and then exits |
| [20:27:17] | peterbennett1: | jheizer: You may have to shut your backend also – I found that sometimes it works and sometimes it fails if the backend is up |
| [20:27:28] | stuarta: | so it's potentially a qt change that's exposed an underlying bug in our code |
| [20:28:05] | jheizer: | ok country menu |
| [20:28:30] | peterbennett1: | stuarta: I found that mythtv-setup does seem to work ok, it prompts for database credentials. |
| [20:28:37] | jheizer: | hmm remote can't navigate |
| [20:28:55] | stuarta: | promising |
| [20:28:57] | peterbennett1: | stuarta: So whet ever is different between frontend and setup |
| [20:29:14] | jheizer: | have to go find a keyboard to steal, brb |
| [20:32:52] | jheizer: | well accidently power cycled it while plugging in a keyboard. Came back up to mainmenu but different theme without me selecting anything |
| [20:32:58] | stuarta: | doh |
| [20:37:53] | jheizer: | cleared it all again, rebooted, country menu -> main menu |
| [20:38:10] | jheizer: | though there was a rather long delay betweent he country menu and the main menu |
| [20:38:24] | jheizer: | trying to check logs to see if it really crashed and mythbunu restarted it for me |
| [20:38:30] | jheizer: | but not the machine will not power on |
| [20:39:24] | peterbennett1: | jheizer: If the backend is down it seems to have a problem, should prompt for database credentials but segfaults instead. Do you see this? |
| [20:40:11] | peterbennett1: | jheizer: backend down and .mythtv directory moved |
| [20:41:34] | jheizer: | Let me try that. Just got it back on. |
| [20:45:11] | jheizer: | I think it did crash earlier |
| [20:46:02] | jheizer: | Sorry for the bad formatted paste |
| [20:46:02] | jheizer: | http://pastebin.com/sUph8dBG |
| [20:49:19] | jheizer: | log is the same for no master bavkend running |
| [20:49:34] | jheizer: | only trying localhost |
| [20:49:47] | stuarta: | jheizer: but no crash? |
| [20:49:50] | jheizer: | then back at the startup messages |
| [20:49:59] | jheizer: | which I assume again is restarting itmytbuntu |
| [20:50:02] | jheizer: | blah |
| [20:50:10] | jheizer: | which I assume again is mytbuntu restarting it |
| [20:50:33] | jheizer: | lol I guess I have a keyboard I can run it directly easy enough. :facepalms: |
| [20:50:47] | peterbennett1: | mythbuntu has this shell script that restarts after a crash |
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| [20:51:16] | jheizer: | or not, can't get menu to open |
| [20:51:25] | peterbennett1: | you can test by using mythfrontend.real |
| [20:51:52] | jheizer: | yeah switching to that now |
| [20:53:25] | jheizer: | yeah where it looks like in the log above it is restarting, it is |
| [20:53:33] | jheizer: | after save on the country menu it is gone |
| [20:53:42] | jheizer: | with backend stopped |
| [20:53:45] | jheizer: | starting backend now |
| [20:54:47] | jheizer: | same with backend running |
| [20:54:55] | jheizer: | I never get a db settings prompt screen |
| [20:55:27] | jheizer: | but the next start after the country screen with the backend running works |
| [20:55:37] | jheizer: | as everything in .mythtv has been generated and filled in |
| [20:56:20] | jheizer: | so anyone of us using mythbuntu wouldn't have noticed since it auto restarted |
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| [21:02:08] | peterbennett1: | jheizer: I tried to setup mythbuntu as a remote frontend, and it was restarting over and over, it never sorted itself out. I had to manually copy the config.xml from the backend machine. |
| [21:03:20] | jheizer: | weird, mine was good till I hit save then just gone |
| [21:03:45] | jheizer: | and I must have typoed restoring my directory as things are not back to normal |
| [21:03:46] | jheizer: | oops |
| [21:14:57] | jheizer: | hmm, only 4 themes marked as available for 0.28/28.0? |
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| [21:28:42] | jheizer: | I can't switch themes |
| [21:29:15] | jheizer: | went and pulled arclight directly, but can't switch to it over mythcenter or terra that were already there |
| [21:54:49] | peterbennett1: | jheizer: Can you press M and ask to refresh download? |
| [21:58:22] | jheizer: | peterbennett1, duh. That made them all show up. I keep fogetting the Menu button on my harmony remote lost its mapping. |
| [21:58:35] | jheizer: | but still can't switch to any other theme |
| [21:59:47] | jheizer: | I just end up back on mythbuntu http://pastebin.com/LWDxdrVm |
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