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[08:33:51] dekarl: looks like the "can I run mythtv backend on windows" question has been answered with "mythbuntu 16.04 coming to windows 10 near you anytime soon" http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/03/ubuntu-on-windows.html
[08:33:51] dekarl: Any "Windows Insider" mind to "apt-get install mythtv" and "sendProfile.py" to add Windows to Smolt? ;)
[08:47:50] Roklobotomy: i am sure hilarity will ensue
[08:50:32] Roklobotomy: especially with DVB cards.
[09:03:25] jmcentee: what, you mean they haven't taken the various ways different DVB cards works from different third parties an created a a single interface for just the linux binaries to access.
[09:06:50] jmcentee: Any techincal details are slim on the ground, no graphics is possible, only commandline. But here must be a whole host of things it doesn't do, not just TV cards. I guess most stuff in /dev that is not generic like harddisks.
[09:23:02] dekarl: windows backends have been limited to network attached tuners in the past, I don't see that changing with this announcement. But it makes the existing packaging and integration available where it was not before. (e.g. mysql configuration of the master database)
[09:23:33] dekarl: maybe sometime in the future there could be libusb attached tuners, like the HD-PVR2
[09:32:20] jmcentee: I don't understand the use case really for a windows backend.
[09:32:37] jmcentee: I do use the windows frontend on a laptop though.
[09:33:01] jmcentee: mostly needed for work and WAF>
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[09:35:29] jmcentee: From the article "My beloved byobu, screen, and tmux don't quite work yet, but they're getting close!"
[09:36:26] jmcentee: I didn't expect scren not to be working yet, although I understand it does a lot, and I only use about 1% of it.
[09:44:12] dekarl: I read the announcement with "Docker comes to Windows" glasses on, and then the limitations made sense
[09:45:02] dekarl: the only use case that I know is "all I have and know is windows"
[09:46:57] stuartm: a dedicated backend, perhaps not, but there are those who don't want to spend money or who simply don't have space for a dedicated linux backend
[09:47:49] stuartm: I'm not one of those, but I can understand that there will be a minority who would benefit from being able to run both the backend and frontend on a windows system
[09:48:10] stuartm: although this has little to do with the Ubuntu announcement
[09:52:18] dekarl: aye, the connection is only that out of the box support for a simple "apt-get install mythtv-backend" lowers the barrier of entry without a packager creating a dedicated windows package
[09:55:21] jmcentee: I suppose a student would only have a laptop.
[10:32:43] dekarl: I didn't expect to see a Raspberry and Unbuntu on a Microsoft blog either https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vcblog/2016/ . . . development/
[11:01:38] stuartm: meh, second hand TBS 6281 I picked up has Lee-Belling connectors, version illustrated on Amazon showed F-Connectors
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[16:48:24] noaXess: hey all..
[16:48:36] noaXess: is anybody known in tv grabber stuff and perl?
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[19:37:27] stuartm: anyone know how to compress the modules built from media_build?
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[20:15:53] stuartm: gigem: the 'This Series' filter, is that only exact matches, or this series and later?
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[21:29:58] stuartm: really shouldn't have left it so long since I last built a kernel, completely stuck on getting modules compressed before install and surprisingly there is absolutely no information out there to help
[21:30:57] stuartm: if I manually compress after install it breaks module dependencies, if I compress before install the media_build scripts can't find the files
[21:31:38] stuartm: and no changes made to the kernel .config or autoconf.h are picked up in the build
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[21:52:20] ** stuartm gives up on compressing the modules and just removes the existing media tree **
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[23:24:26] gigem: stuartm: The 'This series' filter requires an exact match on seriesid. For SchedulesDirect, I don't know if Gracenote or the series producer chooses whether to reuse an old seriesid for remakes, etc. I don't know how the seriesid is determined/generated in xmltv-land.
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[23:39:58] stuartm: right, it's using the TMS seriesid, not season – confused the two (series == season in the UK)
[23:40:18] stuartm: ok, not what I'm looking for
[23:40:23] stuartm: thanks gigem
[23:42:48] stuartm: might be motivated enough to add an option to record everything from season X onwards, or the reverse – for those times when you don't want to record the thousands of repeats of a show you've only just started watching or which you've seen previously before using MythTV for example

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