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| [01:03:51] | MythBuild: | build #13 of 0.28-ubuntu-testing-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . it/builds/13 blamelist: Nicolas Riendeau <nriendeau@mythtv.org > |
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| [01:12:19] | knightr: | oops, just spotted it... |
| [01:12:55] | MythBuild: | build #851 of master-centos7–64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/851 blamelist: Nicolas Riendeau <nriendeau@mythtv.org > |
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| [01:24:14] | MythBuild: | build #13 of 0.28-debian-jessie-32bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . it/builds/13 blamelist: Nicolas Riendeau <nriendeau@mythtv.org > |
| [01:24:19] | gary_buhrmaster: | knightr: The good news is we have good coverage of multiple platforms with the many builders. The bad news is that everyone gets informed over a dozen times about a bad commit (with the slow builders taking an hour or so to report). |
| [01:25:17] | knightr: | yeah |
| [01:25:43] | knightr: | I am pretty sure it's ok now but I don't have a clue as to how to resubmit it, never did it... |
| [01:25:48] | gary_buhrmaster: | knightr: All in all, I prefer the plethora of builders. We (and by "we" I mean the actual devs such as yourself that are doing the work) have managed to miss certain platform idiosyncratic failures in the past. |
| [01:26:31] | knightr: | the fix was so simple I wasn't expecting it to fail but I hadn't spotted the redundant comma... |
| [01:26:46] | MythBuild: | build #35 of master-ubuntu-testing-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . it/builds/35 |
| [01:26:47] | gary_buhrmaster: | knightr: They will all rebuild at the new push. So real soon now you will get a lot of "success" messages. |
| [01:27:11] | gary_buhrmaster: | knightr: (sooner than soon, I guess). |
| [01:27:19] | MythBuild: | build #12 of 0.28-debian-testing-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . it/builds/12 blamelist: Nicolas Riendeau <nriendeau@mythtv.org > |
| [01:27:52] | knightr: | I had noticed but then why do some of us manually resubmit it then? |
| [01:28:02] | MythBuild: | build #22 of master-osx-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . it/builds/22 blamelist: Nicolas Riendeau <nriendeau@mythtv.org > |
| [01:28:02] | knightr: | is that one slow or what... |
| [01:28:12] | gary_buhrmaster: | knightr: You can post a message to the channel to force a build if a particular builder is temporarily broken (since until the next push, the builder stays broken). |
| [01:28:13] | MythBuild: | build #11 of 0.28-ubuntu-lts-armhf is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . hf/builds/11 blamelist: Nicolas Riendeau <nriendeau@mythtv.org > |
| [01:28:33] | MythBuild: | build #473 of master-debian-jessie-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/473 blamelist: Nicolas Riendeau <nriendeau@mythtv.org > |
| [01:28:37] | gary_buhrmaster: | knightr: the arm builders tend to be the slowest. |
| [01:28:54] | knightr: | error 2? |
| [01:29:09] | knightr: | cross compiling? |
| [01:29:47] | knightr: | ok, it's the same error.. |
| [01:29:59] | MythBuild: | build #852 of master-centos7–64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/852 |
| [01:30:01] | gary_buhrmaster: | As of now (AFAIK) all the arm builders in the builder pool (that are running) are native on the appropriate platform. At least one RPi2, a BeagleBone Black. |
| [01:31:07] | MythBuild: | build #135 of master-archlinux-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/135 blamelist: Nicolas Riendeau <nriendeau@mythtv.org > |
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| [01:31:09] | gary_buhrmaster: | The alternative is QEMU arm emulation, which is about as slow as the native platform, or a true cross compile, which is reasonably fast, but somewhat more complicated to setup/maintain (and AFAIK no one has placed on of those in the build pool). |
| [01:31:13] | knightr: | yikes, now I understand why it's so slow... |
| [01:31:46] | MythBuild: | build #2002 of master-fedora-32bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/2002 |
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| [01:33:09] | knightr: | geez, there is slow and slow... |
| [01:33:19] | MythBuild: | build #14 of 0.28-ubuntu-testing-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . it/builds/14 |
| [01:33:33] | knightr: | it's been fixed and they continue to report it a lot of time after... |
| [01:33:53] | gary_buhrmaster: | A full (clean ccache) compile on a single processor limited memory arm system is around 12 hours. A "hot" ccache on a single processor limited memory system is a little over an hour. |
| [01:34:22] | gary_buhrmaster: | The new RPi2 can do a 3–4 process compile with a clean ccache in about 2 hours. |
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| [01:35:14] | knightr: | Gary, can I run two sentences by you? I am pretty sure there's a problem with both of them but as I am not a native speaker of English I am not a 100% sure how to fix them |
| [01:35:31] | gary_buhrmaster: | As with all else, your particular compile time will vary. |
| [01:36:03] | gary_buhrmaster: | Sure, but I R an engineer, so I have never been accused of being a great English speaker either. |
| [01:36:46] | MythBuild: | build #10 of 0.28-debian-jessie-rpi2 is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . i2/builds/10 blamelist: Nicolas Riendeau <nriendeau@mythtv.org > |
| [01:37:07] | gary_buhrmaster: | (and this is American English, not the correct English (that is for stuarta and stuartm when they read the logs)) |
| [01:37:29] | knightr: | ROTBL... |
| [01:37:48] | knightr: | I am Canadian and our English here is a mix of both... |
| [01:37:54] | knightr: | thank you! |
| [01:37:56] | knightr: | Learn what your cameras caughtup. |
| [01:38:09] | knightr: | How would you say that? |
| [01:38:16] | knightr: | I would say |
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| [01:38:20] | knightr: | caught up |
| [01:38:31] | knightr: | but I am not sure it's the right expression... |
| [01:38:44] | knightr: | I know for sure it's not caughtup... |
| [01:38:59] | gary_buhrmaster: | I am not sure what that is supposed to be saying. Perhaps "View what your cameras have captured?" |
| [01:39:04] | gary_buhrmaster: | Is there any context? |
| [01:39:41] | knightr: | It's what Arclight shows for ZoneMinder... |
| [01:40:19] | gary_buhrmaster: | (I thought every other word in Candian was "eh?") |
| [01:40:32] | knightr: | ROTBL... |
| [01:40:35] | MythBuild: | build #14 of 0.28-f23–64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . it/builds/14 |
| [01:41:17] | gary_buhrmaster: | (it is the canadian equivalent of valley speak where every other word is "...like...") |
| [01:41:40] | MythBuild: | build #14 of 0.28-fedora-32bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . it/builds/14 |
| [01:41:49] | gary_buhrmaster: | (I am looking at the arclight theme....) |
| [01:42:00] | knightr: | we have the same in (Canadian) French.. (-; |
| [01:42:23] | knightr: | I don't have a working ZoneMinder |
| [01:42:34] | knightr: | but I think it shows the "events" it recorded |
| [01:42:48] | knightr: | so essentially it offers to show you what it recorded I think... |
| [01:43:34] | knightr: | but is it the right idiom for that, that sounds wrong even to my French speaking ears... (-; |
| [01:43:57] | gary_buhrmaster: | That is what I am guessing (I also do not run zoneminder), which is why I made the suggestion I made, but I want to have a better look. |
| [01:44:25] | knightr: | I wish I had it working though... |
| [01:44:45] | knightr: | I had some fun with a small camera who sent me pictures when it saw "events" |
| [01:44:46] | gary_buhrmaster: | No, in (American) English what you said "Learn what your cameras caughtup" makes no sense. |
| [01:45:39] | knightr: | it once caught a picture of the mailman putting some salt in front of my house... |
| [01:45:55] | knightr: | so that people would not fall.. |
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| [01:46:43] | gary_buhrmaster: | Zoneminder has the capability of "live" viewing, and then showing "events". I suspect the "caughtup" means to view the events. |
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| [01:47:08] | knightr: | I wonder if the current maintainer is a native speaker of English, doesn't sound like (s)he is... |
| [01:47:20] | knightr: | yes, I think so too... |
| [01:49:20] | knightr: | even saying "learn" sounds weird... |
| [01:49:38] | knightr: | (in this context...) |
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| [01:51:52] | gary_buhrmaster: | Perhaps "View the events detected"? |
| [01:52:25] | knightr: | definitely makes more sense, thank you! |
| [01:52:32] | knightr: | I have another for you |
| [01:52:36] | knightr: | "This may take a while I'll give a shout when finished" |
| [01:52:38] | gary_buhrmaster: | So, this is (from the prompts) under "Recorded Events"/"Learn what you camera caughtup." in arclight. |
| [01:53:00] | knightr: | thank you! |
| [01:53:07] | knightr: | I would replace it with |
| [01:53:21] | knightr: | This may take a while. I'll give a shout when finished. |
| [01:53:24] | knightr: | or maybe |
| [01:53:31] | knightr: | This may take a while, I'll give a shout when finished. |
| [01:55:11] | knightr: | I might not add the period at the end since it looks like a lot of strings in MythMusic have no period but it looks like there should be a command or a period between "while" and "I'll", no? |
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| [01:56:08] | knightr: | geez, that was over 30 minutes ago... |
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| [01:57:27] | gary_buhrmaster: | (some of the builders are running on slow/old systems, and some are running on shared infrastructure (I think stuarta was running 8 or so systems on a host)) |
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| [01:59:01] | knightr: | I think my slowest PC here is a Pentium II, I would have to check to make sure... |
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| [02:00:48] | gary_buhrmaster: | I think for "This may take a while I'll give a shout when finished" the period is better (but I refer you to my statement that I R not a English major). One on-line grammar checked I used agrees that the period is better. |
| [02:01:29] | knightr: | Thank you! |
| [02:02:30] | gary_buhrmaster: | If you can find the author(s) of those sentences, I would defer to them. They are, after all, the reference(s) [although they too may be more engineer than english major] |
| [02:03:04] | MythBuild: | build #14 of 0.28-debian-jessie-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . it/builds/14 |
| [02:03:30] | knightr: | I don't want to appear like I am nitpicking... |
| [02:03:52] | knightr: | I am pretty sure I know who did the last one... |
| [02:04:16] | knightr: | as for the other, it's most likely the (or one of the) current maitainer of Arclight... |
| [02:05:38] | knightr: | these are the other entries i modified tonight: https://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/commit/?i . . . 79a0c9523a3e |
| [02:06:56] | knightr: | The reason I changed "'%1' does not exist" into "'%1' does not exist." was that all the other in that function/method had periods at the end except this one (which I know was added later...) |
| [02:07:45] | MythBuild: | build #14 of 0.28-ubuntu-lts-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . it/builds/14 |
| [02:08:57] | gary_buhrmaster: | Clarity/Correctness of English (and the translations) is not really nitpicking, and even the "experts" get it wrong some of the time due to time constraints, or selective seeing (seeing what you think you want to see). |
| [02:09:19] | knightr: | as for the others "to" was written instead of "too", DiSEqC and unsupported were misspelled and for "Unknown" it was not said what was unknown... |
| [02:10:02] | gary_buhrmaster: | I do not make many contributions to the code(s), but when I do, I pretty much try to only deal with log messages (which are not translatable strings (I know, some people want them to be, different issue)). |
| [02:10:48] | knightr: | in English it's not a problem but in a language where there can be a gender for those adjectives it's a problem (in French "Unknown" can be "Inconnu" (Masculine form) or "Inconnue" (Feminine form) so we need to know what it is about.. |
| [02:10:49] | gary_buhrmaster: | The "to", "too" and "two" typo are sometimes thanks to your helpful spell checkers. |
| [02:11:23] | gary_buhrmaster: | And then there is the "their", "there" and "they're" confusion. |
| [02:11:35] | knightr: | I have a joke on my phone about to, too and two... |
| [02:11:49] | gary_buhrmaster: | (and I have occasionally typed one, when I KNOW it was the wrong one; BAD fingers. BAD fingers) |
| [02:11:56] | knightr: | ROTBL... |
| [02:13:09] | knightr: | I wish we had rules just like the coding ones |
| [02:13:20] | knightr: | and not only for us but for the themers as well... |
| [02:13:43] | knightr: | one person can decide to write |
| [02:13:46] | gary_buhrmaster: | The French do. They have the language police (well, at least an entire department to agree on words and language). |
| [02:13:55] | knightr: | Configure Your ZoneMinder |
| [02:14:10] | knightr: | bad example.. |
| [02:14:20] | knightr: | there are actually more than one... |
| [02:14:26] | knightr: | we have our own |
| [02:14:29] | knightr: | OQLF |
| [02:14:50] | knightr: | (Office Québécois de la Langue Française) |
| [02:15:10] | knightr: | there's the French Academy |
| [02:15:15] | knightr: | and I am sure there are others... |
| [02:15:16] | gary_buhrmaster: | As I understand it, Quebec is (very very) special. |
| [02:15:59] | knightr: | there are good and bad things with what these guys do... |
| [02:16:48] | knightr: | and we don't have the monopoly on weird things governments have done... |
| [02:17:30] | knightr: | I believe it was the Ontario government who recently excused themselves for essentially outlawing French school many many years ago... |
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| [02:17:50] | knightr: | there were quite a few French speaking people there decades ago |
| [02:18:00] | gary_buhrmaster: | Perhaps we should all use the ten hundred most common words (as from The Thing Explainer). Randall even has an online checker to make sure we use only those words... |
| [02:18:16] | knightr: | there is not much left because of what the Ontario government did back then.. |
| [02:18:49] | knightr: | thing explainer? xkcd? |
| [02:18:59] | gary_buhrmaster: | Yep. |
| [02:19:16] | knightr: | I wanted to order that book, haven't done so yet.. |
| [02:19:17] | gary_buhrmaster: | "Thing Explainer: Complicated Stuff in Simple Words" |
| [02:20:14] | knightr: | 21.23 CAD... |
| [02:20:42] | knightr: | it's still in my cart... |
| [02:22:58] | MythBuild: | build #14 of 0.28-freebsd10–64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . it/builds/14 |
| [02:25:20] | knightr: | and Gary, about what we said about Quebec earlier, I think some people are afraid of seeing their native language disappear, fear can make people act a little bit weird sometimes regardless of their native language... |
| [02:25:32] | MythBuild: | build #14 of 0.28-ubuntu-current-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . it/builds/14 |
| [02:26:28] | MythBuild: | build #15 of 0.28-osx-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . it/builds/15 |
| [02:26:54] | knightr: | considering we are very much a minority in North America I can see why people would get afraid of that... |
| [02:28:09] | knightr: | (says the guy who maitains the US English and Canadian English translation...) |
| [02:28:21] | gary_buhrmaster: | I am in favor of remembering and celebrating the past, while not clinging to it and afraid to move forward. I understand that that is sometimes a tough path to walk. |
| [02:28:32] | knightr: | the Canadian English translation adds "eh!" or "eh?" at the end of each sentence... |
| [02:28:36] | knightr: | (-; (-; (-; |
| [02:29:05] | gary_buhrmaster: | Cute. |
| [02:29:20] | knightr: | It's a joke though... |
| [02:29:36] | gary_buhrmaster: | Do you also insert a random "Let's have a Molson?" |
| [02:29:48] | knightr: | it's mainly writing colour, behaviour, etc... the right way... (-; (-; (-; |
| [02:30:17] | knightr: | LOL, that would be funny... |
| [02:30:39] | knightr: | We need an Elmer Fudd translation though... |
| [02:31:14] | gary_buhrmaster: | There are certainly those that have predicted that English and Chinese will be the only surviving root languages. |
| [02:32:23] | knightr: | РуÑÑкий? |
| [02:32:40] | knightr: | (I am not sure if I got it right...) |
| [02:33:16] | MythBuild: | build #14 of 0.28-debian-jessie-32bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . it/builds/14 |
| [02:33:22] | knightr: | we see more and more of it on the Internet... |
| [02:34:06] | knightr: | (that was Russian, you might not have seen the characters though, not every IRC client handles them...) |
| [02:35:54] | MythBuild: | build #13 of 0.28-debian-testing-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . it/builds/13 |
| [02:37:09] | gary_buhrmaster: | Yeah, I got that. The Sino Russian war of 2055 may address that issue. |
| [02:37:23] | knightr: | oh boy.. |
| [02:39:35] | gary_buhrmaster: | (no, I do not have time travel [What do we want? Time Travel! When do we want it? It does not matter!] but there are some planners that suggest it is going to happen, and the gamers run the scenarios.) |
| [02:41:08] | ** knightr wonder he puts his Tardis... ** | |
| [02:41:16] | knightr: | oops |
| [02:41:21] | ** knightr wonders where he puts his Tardis... ** | |
| [02:41:29] | knightr: | oops |
| [02:41:33] | ** knightr wonders where he put his Tardis... ** | |
| [02:41:45] | gary_buhrmaster: | "The angels have the phonebox" |
| [02:42:01] | knightr: | I think I better stop trying to find typos, I am making them now... |
| [02:42:06] | knightr: | the weeping angels? |
| [02:43:14] | gary_buhrmaster: | Yep. From "Blink". One of the episodes you tell people to watch when you want to introduce them to the Doctor. Even though it was a Doctor light episode, it had it all. |
| [02:44:42] | gary_buhrmaster: | And it even starred the up and coming actress Carey Mulligan. |
| [02:44:45] | knightr: | looks like it was with David Tennant, one of the best recent (if not the best) recent doctors... |
| [02:46:02] | knightr: | my antenna is so damaged I can't get Doctor Who right now... |
| [02:47:11] | knightr: | I need to find someone to replace it but it's difficult to find people to go on towers nowadays... |
| [02:47:16] | gary_buhrmaster: | Not a problem, there are no (new) episodes airing until Spring 2017 (although there is the Xmas special). |
| [02:47:41] | knightr: | and I sure won't do it myself, I am afraid of heights... |
| [02:49:12] | knightr: | I don't know why people don't believe me after I tell them I tend not to stay onboard planes until the end when I board them... |
| [02:49:20] | knightr: | I get so bored, I jump out... |
| [02:49:21] | gary_buhrmaster: | Technically, most people are not afraid of heights, but of falling. |
| [02:49:33] | knightr: | I believe you are right |
| [02:50:26] | knightr: | because I have almost the same feeling in some situations where I am not that high up but am afraid I might fall down... |
| [02:51:41] | knightr: | the last times I went on a plane I was afraid when I could still see the ground |
| [02:52:08] | knightr: | but when I jumped out and the parachute opened I was not afraid of heights anymore... |
| [02:53:57] | knightr: | in theory it should have been the worst thing ever to do but the effect was not the same... |
| [02:54:33] | gary_buhrmaster: | There are various (medically recognized) conditions which is commonly called "fear of heights", but I know enough to know they are different, and diagnosed/treated differently. |
| [02:57:28] | knightr: | I was afraid when I was moving under that Cessna plane wing to get into position to jump but it wasn't the same thing, this was controllable fear, not the same thing as "fear of heights"... |
| [02:58:56] | MythBuild: | build #12 of 0.28-ubuntu-lts-armhf is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . hf/builds/12 |
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| [03:02:17] | knightr: | I think that someone didn't get the memo that MythWeb is going away... |
| [03:04:14] | bill6502: | And didn't mention the problem, just that config.xml isn't in the existing code, which doesn't seem to be required as it works OK. |
| [03:09:00] | gary_buhrmaster: | Well, technically, mythweb is still on life support in (at least) 0.28. But I agree no one should spend too much time on it when there are workarounds (which in this case are, I think, just proper configuration in the web server configuration for the database). |
| [03:09:25] | gary_buhrmaster: | I presume someone will update the ticket with an appropriate response and mark the ticket "info_needed". |
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| [03:14:44] | knightr: | I guess I didn't get the memo either because I just fixed something in MythGallery... (-; |
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| [03:16:57] | knightr: | that someone won't be me, I am going to sleep now... |
| [03:17:05] | bill6502: | gary_buhrmaster: good presumption, done |
| [03:17:06] | knightr: | Goodnight everyone, take care! |
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| [03:24:08] | knightr: | I am not PHP guru but it looks like if the file is not found anywhere it will fail, I think that's what (s)he meant... Is this file actually used by MythWeb or only constitutes the PHP bindings? |
| [03:24:25] | knightr: | it has not been updated since 0.25pre... |
| [03:24:44] | knightr: | (according to the version at the top of the file...) |
| [03:25:04] | knightr: | ok, this is goodnight for good now... |
| [03:31:27] | MythBuild: | build #11 of 0.28-debian-jessie-rpi2 is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.28 . . . i2/builds/11 |
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| [09:03:55] | stuarta: | stuartm: no mizar wasn't down, what's the issue |
| [09:06:33] | stuartm: | working again now, wasn't reachable for a time yesterday evening |
| [09:12:16] | stuarta: | odd, must have been networking then, as it's been up since i rebooted it 2 days ago |
| [09:27:40] | stuarta: | stuartm: and mungbean, btw, is the dev instance of mizar, hosted on my server |
| [09:28:31] | stuartm: | ah, ok, finally I know where all those emails originate :) |
| [09:28:44] | stuarta: | doh, you getting email from it? |
| [09:39:28] | stuarta: | hrm, alcor actually went down 12hrs ago |
| [09:41:50] | stuarta: | bloody percona upgrades, keep killing the mysqlclient lib link |
| [09:44:23] | stuarta: | smolt is back now |
| [09:44:38] | stuarta: | sigh, really need to start the rewrite of the smolt backend |
| [09:44:47] | stuarta: | after i finish off services rewrite |
| [09:59:04] | ** stuarta heads out for a while ** | |
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| [15:09:46] | stuartm: | stuarta: yeah, undelivered email and logwatch reports |
| [15:10:21] | stuartm: | undelivered email is internal – postfix reports etc |
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| [15:35:22] | letifosiferrari: | Hi all! I am kind of new here and I am having a question regarding the auto start of mythtv-backend at boot on a Debian Jessie (on Raspberry Pi). Trying to make it short, I generated the debian .deb files with the build-debs.sh (worked great by the way) on the Pi, installed everything using dpkg, did a basic configuration of the backend and confirmed that the backend starts properly with /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start. The p |
| [15:35:22] | letifosiferrari: | roblem I am having is that the mythtv-backend script doesn't seem to get called at startup. I am guessing it has to do with systemd being used. I took a look at the MySQL init.d script and it does get called --through some kind of systemd wrapper it looks like (not sure about the wrapper thing). I am wondering if there is an additional step I need to do in order to have the mythtv-backend init.d script called through systemd? |
| [15:35:22] | letifosiferrari: | [Or is there a "native" systemd "script" that gets called? [This morning I just noticed that there is a mythtv-backend.service file in the packaging project on github]] |
| [15:36:00] | letifosiferrari: | Oh by the way, all of this was done using the fixes/0.27 branch on the packaging project |
| [15:40:10] | stuarta: | letifosiferrari: with pure systemd you have to do a `systemctl enable <service>` |
| [15:40:41] | stuarta: | not quite sure it behaves with sysv services tho |
| [15:53:38] | letifosiferrari: | Thank you! I did not run the command you shared when I was trying to make it work so it definitely sounds like running it will unblock me :-) I will try this tonight (Pacific time) and see how it behaves (will share the results)! |
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| [22:14:05] | stuartm: | knightr: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/b0d9b309 adds a new string but it's not translatable since it's the same in all languages (OpenGL 2) |
| [22:14:21] | stuartm: | Can I merge to 0.28? |
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| [22:59:02] | knightr: | stuartm, if you promise to take a look at ticket #11181, go ahead |
| [22:59:02] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11181 ** | |
| [22:59:06] | knightr: | (-; (-; (-; |
| [23:00:08] | knightr: | if this is for what I think it is (Pi) than I am sure every translator won't mind and it was a bug to begin with not to expose it.. |
| [23:00:11] | knightr: | (-; (-; (-; |
| [23:00:39] | ** stuarta declares anything related to rpi support a bug, not a feature ** | |
| [23:00:49] | knightr: | ROTBL... |
| [23:02:53] | knightr: | anyway I have a few untranslatable strings to fix like very soon now so it's not like this will be the last string added at the last minute and like you said it's easy to "translate". |
| [23:03:02] | knightr: | (Ctrl-B, Ctrl-Enter) |
| [23:03:15] | knightr: | (copy the source string, confirm it) |
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| [23:33:51] | illuminated_: | is mythweb a frontend or backend feature? |
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