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| [01:35:39] | MythBuild: | build #5 of master-ubuntu-lts-armhf is complete: Failure [4failed compile plugins] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . mhf/builds/5 blamelist: Karl Dietz <dekarl@mythtv.org > |
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| [08:09:14] | dani--: | hi homies... i have a question..... |
| [08:09:27] | dani--: | can any of you recommend a piece of software to use with my tv tuner card? I've heard MythTV is the best.. but it's too heavy weight.. i need something i can shrink and leave on top on my desktop while i work on my computer.... any suggestions? |
| [08:16:31] | dekarl: | dani--: MythTV is the best. Without any information on the use case we will always suggest MythTV. (notice that this is the MythTV developer's channel. If we thought something else was the best we wouldn't be here) |
| [08:20:50] | dani--: | thanks dekarl .. |
| [08:21:30] | dani--: | can mythtv sit on my desktop in a small window dekarl ?? |
| [08:22:32] | dani--: | is there a more appropriate mythtv channel i should try dekarl ? |
| [08:24:46] | dani--: | ?? |
| [08:24:50] | dekarl: | dani--: try #mythtv-users, though it appears to be slow these days, too. maybe the forum is better atm |
| [08:25:28] | dekarl: | the backend usually sits in the background invisible for the users and the frontend is started/stopped as you need it to actually watch something |
| [08:25:30] | ShapeShifter499: | hello |
| [08:26:09] | dekarl: | dani--: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview |
| [08:26:10] | ShapeShifter499: | I posted this to the -users channel but I'll also post it here |
| [08:26:25] | ShapeShifter499: | so I have no idea if this is a kodi plugin issue or if this is a mythtv backend issue. Right now the pvr frontend plugin on my kodi install is unable to connect to my mythtv backend install after upgrading to v0.28 from v0.27 Any ideas? |
| [08:26:46] | dekarl: | ShapeShifter499: you need a plugin newer then dec 26th |
| [08:30:15] | ShapeShifter499: | dekarl: I'm not sure where I'd get that for the android client |
| [08:30:41] | ShapeShifter499: | I'm looking here but it's not clear when each plugin version was created http://janbar.github.io/pvr.mythtv/download/index.html |
| [08:32:35] | dekarl: | ShapeShifter499: I don't know. I just looked at janbar's code when he added support for our latest protocol change. Maybe you can catch someone forums.kodi.tv? or #kodi? |
| [08:39:07] | ShapeShifter499: | dekarl: I'll try the newest jarvis RC-1 build I just found on kodi's web page |
| [08:39:30] | ShapeShifter499: | next off to #kodi if it doesn't contain the latest pvr plugin |
| [08:56:13] | ShapeShifter499: | dekarl: working :D well sort of, I'm now getting this "channel unavailable" animation |
| [08:56:37] | ShapeShifter499: | do you know how to setup that new v4l encoder |
| [09:05:58] | ShapeShifter499: | I don't seem to be able to "scan" for channels using that encoder |
| [09:25:16] | ShapeShifter499: | dekarl: I cannot get live tv with that 'v4l encoder' but it does seem like the kodi pvr frontend is now connecting |
| [09:39:17] | dekarl: | ShapeShifter499: I don't do LiveTV. Is that on master with the new V4L2 recoder? (jpabq) |
| [09:47:18] | dekarl: | meh, mythgallery detects opengl/opengles as the same, but only works with opengl but not opengles. Anybody up for merging the mythtv and mythplugin trees, so its one configure script for both? |
| [09:47:42] | dekarl: | ^- wrt the failed build at https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mas . . . mhf/builds/5 |
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| [10:05:52] | warpme: | dekarl: wrt to #9480 and https://code.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/c4fe52 . . . f646a/mythtv something seems to not working OK as now all channels have broken PL chars. Let me know how can I help to nail-down this bug. |
| [10:05:52] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9480 ** | |
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| [10:09:54] | dekarl1: | warpme: can you run "dvbsnoop -n 1 0x12" again? "-n 1" is for "one sample" and "0x12" is filter EIT only |
| [10:09:59] | dekarl1 is now known as dekarl | |
| [10:10:17] | dekarl: | the upload did not contain what I was looking for |
| [10:18:02] | warpme: | dekarl: done. pls look on #9480 |
| [10:18:02] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9480 ** | |
| [10:18:19] | dekarl: | warpme: just saw the mails. still not in there :( |
| [10:18:45] | dekarl: | what files are you running dvbsnoop against? |
| [10:19:42] | dekarl: | try dvbsnoop -n 1 -if thefile 0x12 ? |
| [10:20:22] | warpme: | it was raw data catched like this: cat /dev/dvb/adapter4/dvr0 > tvnhd.raw |
| [10:20:25] | dekarl: | I'm looking for hexdump + decoding like this http://dvbsnoop.sourceforge.net/examples/example-eit.html |
| [10:20:40] | warpme: | raw file was from friday |
| [10:23:29] | dekarl: | I always run "dvbtune -m <TUNING PARAMETERS>" in one window and "dvbsnoop 0x12" in another |
| [10:23:37] | warpme: | hmm – I tried again with "dvbsnoop -n 1 -nph 0x12 -if tvnhd.raw > tvnhd-decoded-v3.txt". output is thesame..(and not like in URL You provided) |
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| [10:24:54] | dekarl: | "dvbtune -c 4" for adapter 4 and "dvbsnoop -adapter 4" for /dev/dvb/adapter4 |
| [10:25:26] | warpme: | well – in Friday i used "szap-s2 -a4 -n449 -r" in one window and "cat /dev/dvb/adapter4/dvr0 > tvnhd.raw" in another |
| [10:26:57] | dekarl: | I'm not sure that "set up /dev/dvb/adapterX/dvr0 for TS recording" will include PID 0x12 |
| [10:27:02] | warpme: | maybe I should catch raw data again – this time for longer time? |
| [10:27:36] | dekarl: | but szap + live dvbsnoop should work, too |
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| [10:33:21] | warpme: | dekarl: is this better: http://pastebin.com/BVGL0SnZ |
| [10:34:28] | dekarl: | warpme: this looks better. It is only the beginning, correct? (it has no events in it, but is the correct section) |
| [10:34:50] | dekarl: | "other transport stream, present/following" should contain 2 events per channel that it is about |
| [10:35:27] | warpme: | dekarl: OK this one look probably OK: http://pastebin.com/2xMvvS9W |
| [10:38:32] | dekarl: | warpme: yes, that is the data I'm looking for. Can you try to capture one sample for "Polsat" and one for "Cyfra+"? |
| [10:39:07] | warpme: | dekarl: and from another mplex: http://pastebin.com/QVi59uSm |
| [10:39:37] | dekarl: | have to look what 00 02 means as encoding |
| [10:39:39] | warpme: | dekarl: first is from Polsat. Second should be from Cyfra |
| [10:41:06] | dekarl: | hmm, its not in the standard, no wonder its not working as expected :D |
| [10:41:29] | warpme: | dekarl: rhis is from Cyfra own channel: http://pastebin.com/RWi5QLuf |
| [10:42:03] | warpme: | my second paste was from TVN – private TV who is broadcasted by Cyfra. |
| [10:42:26] | warpme: | third paste is from Cyfra own channel |
| [10:52:23] | dekarl: | man dvbsnoop shinks, too. that's 0x10, 0x00, 0x02 – proper ISO 8859–2 signaling |
| [11:00:08] | dekarl: | warpme: I'll try to figure it out. So the first example doesn't need a fixup, the other two need the ISO 8859–2 prefix removed in favor of the default ISO 6937? |
| [11:13:00] | warpme: | dekarl: what I remember regarding BE running without #9480: Cyfra PL chars were OK, while Polsat were wrong. |
| [11:15:50] | dekarl: | warpme: but the fixup is a no-op for Polsat according to your sampe :/ |
| [11:18:22] | warpme: | hmm – so I don't know... Anyway: I think we can use patch from #9480 as reference. With this patch all channels have correct PL chars. I tested BE without #9480 patch many years ago. Maybe in the meantime Polsat & Cyfra changed something? |
| [11:18:22] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9480 ** | |
| [11:18:22] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9480 ** | |
| [11:21:46] | dekarl: | hmm, maybe a mistake when I coded up the fix while going through the patch. |
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| [13:25:11] | paul-h: | anyone know if zlib is a mandatory or optional dependency? |
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| [14:30:49] | paul-h: | jya: I assume that ffmeg re-sync fixes the vulnerability reported the other day? |
| [14:31:20] | dizygoth: | jya: Did you resolve 12617 ? Looks like there could be some missing includes |
| [14:31:36] | jya: | no idea which vulnerability you;re referring to .. i only re-sync against the stable version |
| [14:32:00] | jya: | so those changes are only bug fixes. |
| [14:32:24] | jya: | mozilla started to fuzz ffmpeg a few months ago, which has resulted in a lot of bugs being identified and fixed |
| [14:32:34] | paul-h: | http://news.softpedia.com/news/zero-day-ffmpe . . . 498880.shtml |
| [14:33:32] | jya: | dizygoth: no the issue is that Qt 5.5 SDK that you can download is build against libc++ while everything else had been compiled against libstdc++ (this is automatic if you ask for < 10.9 compatibility |
| [14:34:30] | jya: | paul-h: yes, that one is included according to the release file |
| [14:34:43] | dizygoth: | jya: Ah! So not a problem for Qt 5.4 ? |
| [14:34:51] | paul-h: | Yeah looks like it does include the fix http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/ffmpeg-2-8-5- . . . 498986.shtml |
| [14:35:01] | jya: | dizygoth: i dont know if qt 5.4 is affected. |
| [14:35:17] | jya: | it's a 1.2GB download, i'm downloading 5.5.1 to see if that's still the case |
| [14:35:38] | jya: | seems that it's because it's now built with C++11 support by default |
| [14:35:43] | jya: | which require libc++ |
| [14:35:59] | jya: | if that's the case there's two way I can fix the problem. |
| [14:36:15] | jya: | is go back a previous Qt that is built against libstdc++ |
| [14:36:52] | jya: | or compile every other dependencies to use libc++ (in particular exiv2) |
| [14:37:21] | jya: | which would require to drop compatibility with 10.8 and earlier |
| [14:37:38] | jya: | the issue is really recent, and related to the changed to libmythmetadata |
| [14:37:58] | jya: | as before we were never messing with std::string with external libraries |
| [14:39:12] | jya: | 3rd option is https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/4bf9d . . . 90944fffb6ad |
| [14:39:34] | jya: | to revert that commit which has introduce that dependency. |
| [14:40:00] | jya: | personally I'd be happy to because having this stuff for mythgallery in mythmetadata is counter intuitive |
| [14:42:03] | jya: | paul-h: I tried to play a CD a few days ago... I can't say that the experience was very straight forward |
| [14:42:34] | jya: | my wife was very willing to throw the whole box away by the end of it :) |
| [14:42:49] | paul-h: | CD's what are they :) |
| [14:43:20] | jya: | it's a bit annoying that you have to create yet again a new storage group... everytime I upgrade mythmusic wants a new one.. it never seems to be enough :) |
| [14:43:46] | jya: | now after a rescan, the title of each file is the full path on the backend |
| [14:43:51] | paul-h: | Unless something broke you just put the CD in and it will play? |
| [14:44:01] | jya: | even when i was accessing the file on a remote frontend |
| [14:44:07] | paul-h: | No new storage groups either |
| [14:44:40] | jya: | nah... in the end, I found the CD at the end of the file list (over 6000 titles). simply because I went up and oooohhh it was there |
| [14:45:23] | jya: | i would have never found that by myself... Surely an option like "play CD" could be added |
| [14:45:38] | jya: | paul-h: i don't have autoplay activated. |
| [14:46:17] | jya: | reason for this is that we typically always have a DVD inserted in that frontend (that the kids have left in) when going to suspend, typically when you resume it would play the DVD |
| [14:47:29] | jya: | we very rarely use CD, we have a little music box with a CD player. Unfortunately, it broke and the kids got CDs for christmas they wanted to listen to |
| [14:50:11] | jya: | allright, off to bed for me (2AM here). will see that Qt bit later |
| [14:50:12] | paul-h: | Seems the CD drive on this machine is fucked so can't test it but I'm sure it would just worked when you put the CD in but maybe like you say that was with the auto play enabled |
| [14:51:09] | paul-h: | You should be able to go to the playlist editor and add the CD tracks from there as well |
| [14:51:14] | ShapeShifter499: | so now I'm getting some kind of crash trying to live stream on 0.28 here is the log https://pastee.org/bfndr |
| [14:52:08] | dizygoth: | jya: Image meta data is used by Gallery in core Myth – backend & frontend, not the MythGallery plugin. That's why it's in the lib. |
| [14:53:06] | dizygoth: | jya: However the std::string is only there because of image comments in different charsets, which is a PITA. |
| [14:53:51] | dizygoth: | jya: That could easily go, if causing a problem – I doubt anyone puts comments in their photos anyway. |
| [14:53:58] | jya: | dizygoth: ah ok... yeah, the conflicts is mostly about std::string being completely incompatible between the two C++ lib |
| [14:54:38] | jya: | I'm surprised it compiled at all here, because the various function are in header that isn't included |
| [14:55:13] | jya: | the header is #include from exiv2.hpp but it's not linked because some version of exiv2 don't include it |
| [14:55:53] | jya: | there's a few functions there weren't linked, seems to be more than just text (including just opening a file that takes a std::strink as path) |
| [14:56:36] | jya: | i see that it's using exception too; aren't some people compiling with exception disabled (and/or something that we weren't supposed to use in myth?) |
| [14:57:17] | dizygoth: | jya: Yeah, that's an error. Possible that fixing that will solve it. More likely some includes for string would help. |
| [14:57:27] | jya: | https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Coding_Standards |
| [14:57:39] | jya: | " Don't use C++ exceptions Unlike say Java, C++ doesn't have any way to tell the user of a method what exceptions must be caught, but gcc does let you mark a return value as something that must be examined. To deal with exceptions that can occur during object construction use either two part initialization or a static factory method that returns NULL when it |
| [14:57:39] | jya: | fails. " |
| [14:58:25] | dizygoth: | jya: Hadn't realised it used exceptions. I didn't introduce it! Will look into it though... |
| [14:59:41] | dizygoth: | jya: I don't have a Mac but google suggests it can sometimes resolve itself if you get your includes right. |
| [14:59:45] | jya: | https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blame/master . . . ata.cpp#L290 |
| [15:00:09] | jya: | dizygoth: no the issue here is a conflict between C++ lib, can't fix that with a header |
| [15:00:35] | jya: | dizygoth: exceptions were introduced in that same commit |
| [15:01:49] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: dekarl jpabq I'm getting this issue now on v0.28 https://pastee.org/bfndr that is using the analog capture not the new v4l encoder which I couldn't get to work at all |
| [15:01:52] | jya: | in PictureMetadata class |
| [15:02:13] | dizygoth: | jya: That's handling exceptions raised by an external lib, not raising them. If they weren't caught then we couldn't use any lib that used exceptions. Is that the policy ? |
| [15:02:28] | jya: | i guess we could ensure that the exception can't occur to start with by checking that the file exists first with some Qt code |
| [15:02:50] | jya: | are we using lib that can raise exception anywhere ? |
| [15:03:23] | jya: | ah yeah we do :) |
| [15:03:47] | jya: | oh well |
| [15:04:06] | jya: | for some reasons I'm downloading from Qt at 45kB/s ... |
| [15:04:18] | jya: | i really wanted to finish that, but I'm super tired now |
| [15:05:07] | dizygoth: | jya: Fair point, but the file should already exist there. And you can never predict why it'll raise one, so it's always got to be handled. |
| [15:06:05] | jya: | paul-h: i set up another frontend yesterday... this is one is a beefy i5 3.1GHz quad-core.. displaying anything in the mythvideo screen also takes a significant time. So I'm guessing it's coming from the scanning of the backend.. I'll check that too.. it makes the frontend unusable IMHO.. |
| [15:06:40] | jya: | maybe how it's asking to search for images in sub-folder I don't know |
| [15:06:55] | jya: | that seems to be the only thing that changed in that area of the code since 0.27 |
| [15:07:25] | dizygoth: | jya: I gave up trying the Qt 5.5 download because the mysql driver was so out-of-date. Couldn't get it to work |
| [15:07:59] | jya: | dizygoth: the mac packager already recompile the mysql driver |
| [15:08:22] | jya: | it's fairly straightforward to do it ; only issue is having to download the full source code |
| [15:08:46] | jya: | oh download just finished |
| [15:09:38] | jya: | yep, still compiled against libc++ |
| [15:09:42] | jya: | https://irccloud.mozilla.com/pastebin/Q6qMxKic |
| [15:11:54] | jya: | hmmmm... mythtv-setup doesn't work over a remote X11 session now... damn. |
| [15:13:10] | ** jya bed time ** | |
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| [15:45:37] | ShapeShifter499: | jya: if your still there... what version are you on? v0.28 and v0.27 both worked for me over ssh x11 forwarding |
| [15:49:48] | gregbert: | i have a 0.28-pre backend. recordings work fine. but live TV gets stuck (and i have to stop/start) after 2–10 minutes while watching through the latest janbar kodi mythtv plugin. I was doing a test, and it got stuck at exactly the same position on the Rpi2 frontend and the x86 frontend while they were viewing the same program. any tips? |
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| [16:21:24] | enyc: | i've done x11 forwarding mythtv-setup of backend with 0.27 no prbolem before |
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| [16:55:23] | gregbert: | as have i.. |
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| [17:07:32] | dekarl: | ShapeShifter499: can you file bugs with backtraces for the crashes ? https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging#Getting_a_Backtrace |
| [17:14:48] | ShapeShifter499: | dekarl: I can try but it will have to be later |
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| [17:47:23] | jpabq: | ShapeShifter499: Hauppage is sending me a HVR-950 so hopefully I can get it working. |
| [17:50:26] | ShapeShifter499: | jpabq: wait really? |
| [17:50:41] | ShapeShifter499: | jpabq: is it the wait no 'Q' at the end? |
| [17:51:14] | jpabq: | ShapeShifter499: Are there two versions? |
| [17:51:18] | ShapeShifter499: | jpabq: yes |
| [17:51:28] | ShapeShifter499: | jpabq: three now maybe " As of August 2014, The newer HVR-955Q may be shipped instead of this model, the HVR-950Q. The HVR-955Q driver is not currently as mature as the HVR-950Q driver is." |
| [17:51:39] | ShapeShifter499: | "Note: This device, the HVR-950Q, is significantly different from the older HVR-950 model, so please be sure to differentiate between the two. For information on the older model, see the WinTV-HVR-950 article." |
| [17:51:45] | ShapeShifter499: | jpabq: https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-950Q |
| [17:51:48] | jpabq: | Oh. I believe they are sending me a 950Q and a 955Q. |
| [17:55:03] | ShapeShifter499: | jpabq: I was able to get this working fine with TVtime for analogue cable/ota and Kaffine for HD over the air both with audio. |
| [17:55:53] | jpabq: | I should look at the TVtime source code. Might be some clues there. |
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| [18:15:48] | paul-h: | stuarta: are you about? I have an updated streams.gz to put on the ftp server |
| [18:17:24] | ShapeShifter499: | jpabq: I'll be afk but I'll leave this up so I get messages |
| [18:19:34] | jpabq: | ShapeShifter499: I wont have time to work on V4L2 stuff today. I am suddenly VERY busy at work, and that is going to consume my time. |
| [18:26:08] | ShapeShifter499: | jpabq: understood |
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| [19:36:52] | stuarta: | paul-h: ping, i am here now |
| [19:37:04] | stuarta: | drop it to me in an email please |
| [20:00:57] | stuarta: | dekarl: jheizer i think the rpi builds should be repointed to devel/rpi branch, but i dunno how current that is? |
| [20:01:37] | stuarta: | even if that branch needs a resync to master |
| [20:03:55] | stuarta: | time to stop the builders building 027candidates. no point |
| [20:13:59] | dekarl: | stuarta: according to https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/network devel/rpi has been merged into master and can be deleted |
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| [20:20:05] | dekarl: | the raspbian build needs a look at where "Bool" is #defined as "int", maybe the xlib header. https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mas . . . e/logs/stdio |
| [20:21:09] | dekarl: | and the ubuntu on armhf with qt5 build needs someone to fiddle about with opengl vs opengles build of QT / mythgallery https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mas . . . s/logs/stdio |
| [20:21:37] | dekarl: | the latter broke when I switched QT4 and QT5 pkg-config precendence around |
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| [20:30:53] | stuarta: | dekarl: what about devel/lvr/rpi which is what the builders are tracking |
| [20:31:18] | ** stuarta suspects that's dead too ** | |
| [20:32:45] | gary_buhrmaster: | stuarta: I hope you did not mind me pointing Craig to you for a OS X buildbot. |
| [20:36:32] | gary_buhrmaster: | I seem to recall that a previous (possibly related) Bool issue was addressed for some distributions some time ago, and it was ordering between an X header and something else. That might be a hint (or a wild goose chase). Ah, yes #12065 |
| [20:36:32] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12065 ** | |
| [20:37:35] | stuarta: | np |
| [21:01:26] | dekarl: | stuarta, devel/lvr/rpi was merged, my fault in reading the graph. devel/rpi is jya's work from 2013 with one commit. devel/lvr/startup contains 5 commits. |
| [21:01:44] | stuarta: | right |
| [21:02:03] | stuarta: | neither are important at this time, i'll kill the relevant build trees |
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| [21:18:26] | stuarta: | and done, 027candidates and the rpi branch builds are gone |
| [21:30:31] | dekarl: | stuarta, is there a way to set "-j3" for a buildslave? |
| [21:31:01] | stuarta: | dekarl: it's currently only in the recipies |
| [21:31:38] | dekarl: | stuarta, so it is per job but for all build slaves that run it? |
| [21:32:06] | stuarta: | dekarl: double check though, that the generated Makefile, is or is not able to pickup -j from an environment variable |
| [21:32:09] | dekarl: | aka "what's a recipe? / the granularity of recipces" |
| [21:33:56] | stuarta: | http://fpaste.org/314292/ <- that's what a "linux" builder runs through. which is almost all builders |
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| [21:56:42] | dekarl: | hmm, slaves.py isn't the native form where I could simply add a properties={'makeflags':'-j 3'} to copy that to an environment variable later in linux.py |
| [21:57:31] | ** dekarl goes back to extending the unit tests to try to catch where he broke the EIT character encoding ** | |
| [21:59:35] | stuarta: | dekarl: i'm wondering if we could add something to pull the -j from the environment |
| [22:00:22] | stuarta: | i was also thinking of adding some bits to turn gcc and Qt versions into properties (so then you would see them on every build) |
| [22:00:25] | dekarl: | stuarta, you mean like reading the number of cores (4 on a rpi2, but only enough memory for -j 3) |
| [22:00:58] | stuarta: | kiss.... read env variable, splat into make command |
| [22:01:47] | dekarl: | that's what I was thinking about... using a property instead of an environment variable, so it can be centrally managed (e.g. if we need more memory change it from -j3 to -j2 for rpi2) |
| [22:02:10] | dekarl: | the just copy the property to an environment variable, that make reads, later |
| [22:02:15] | dekarl: | s/the/then/ |
| [22:02:38] | gary_buhrmaster: | If one adds a export MAKEFLAGS='-j 3' to the buildslave startup script does it get stripped before the make gets it? |
| [22:02:57] | ** stuarta was wondering the same thing ** | |
| [22:03:01] | dekarl: | gary_buhrmaster: that is a good test |
| [22:03:18] | stuarta: | dekarl: i'd check to see if we even have MAKEFLAGS in the makefile |
| [22:03:54] | gary_buhrmaster: | (I have no idea, it is just the first thing I would test, since it is easy, and would allow individuals to customize their buildslave.) |
| [22:04:01] | dekarl: | stuarta, why? isn't that a feature of gmake? |
| [22:04:23] | stuarta: | er, good point |
| [22:04:25] | gary_buhrmaster: | If "we" override (and not add) that could cause issues. |
| [22:04:33] | dekarl: | gary_buhrmaster: I was thinking about doing it remotely to other peoples raspberry ;) |
| [22:05:15] | dekarl: | lame and exiv2 do something with MAKEFLAGS explicitly, thats it |
| [22:18:22] | dekarl: | looks like thats working with the export in the buildslave's start script |
| [22:18:33] | stuarta: | oh nice |
| [22:18:42] | stuarta: | now you just need something to pick it up |
| [22:19:22] | dekarl: | a /msg did |
| [22:20:08] | stuarta: | what i mean, is it's great that it gets set, but will it be used at the make step |
| [22:20:13] | stuarta: | ?? |
| [22:20:38] | dekarl: | yes, i see three ccache in parallel |
| [22:20:54] | ** stuarta reads the gmake man page ** | |
| [22:21:25] | stuarta: | sounds promising |
| [22:24:14] | dekarl: | jheizer: -^ |
| [22:25:41] | dekarl: | adding export MAKEFLAGS='-j 3' to bin/start-buildslave.sh appears to work well |
| [22:26:25] | gary_buhrmaster: | Declare success and move on (before something breaks). |
| [22:26:45] | stuarta: | i'm waiting for it to run out of memory at some crucial point |
| [22:27:30] | gary_buhrmaster: | Ok, declare success and run and hide somewhere else before it breaks. |
| [22:28:14] | jya: | ShapeShifter499: I'm on master head. x11 forwarding has always worked for me on 0.27 (I blame Qt 5) |
| [22:29:10] | dekarl: | stuarta, it broke with -j4, but passed with -j3 in tests (I think it was in libmythtv – surprise) |
| [22:30:01] | stuarta: | no surprise. iirc that's where tv_play.cpp lives and that used to break my OSX builds when I had them |
| [22:31:33] | dekarl: | man, the initial cp takes almost three minutes with unchanged sources |
| [22:32:29] | gary_buhrmaster: | NFS? |
| [22:32:30] | stuarta: | iirc, there are other ways of doing that cp phase, but they proved unreliable |
| [22:32:58] | stuarta: | dekarl: seriously you should use iscsi, and present a remote block device to it |
| [22:33:08] | dekarl: | yes NFS |
| [22:35:43] | jya: | so what do you guys think I should do? Use latest Qt 5.5 and restrict mac frontend to OS 10.9 minimum (10.11 is the current version of OS X) ; or allow 10.8 and use Qt 5.2 ? |
| [22:36:17] | stuarta: | jya: what's the problem? |
| [22:36:27] | gary_buhrmaster: | Does Apple still (officially) support anything less than 10.9? |
| [22:36:39] | jya: | gary_buhrmaster: I don't know |
| [22:37:12] | stuarta: | jya: the (vague) rule we are working to is whatever isn't EOL for fedora (ie f22 & f23), stable debian, lts ubuntu |
| [22:37:33] | jya: | stuarta: the issue is that apple has moved from libstdc++ to libc++ in 10.9 as their default C++ library. If I target anything earlier than 10.9 it builds with libstdc++, and 10.9 and later: libc++ |
| [22:37:54] | jya: | the current Qt 5.5 appears to have C++11 enabled by default and automatical has set libc++ |
| [22:38:36] | jya: | so the issue is with some 3rd party libs, they are built for a old macos target, and as such build for libstdc++. Qt 5.5 binary is built against libc++ |
| [22:38:48] | jya: | that causes the inability to link anything using std::string |
| [22:39:14] | jya: | libc++ and libstdc++ aren't binary compatible |
| [22:39:19] | stuarta: | remove any std::strings? or does that not help with the 3rd party bits |
| [22:39:34] | jya: | the new libmythmetadata now uses exiv2 |
| [22:39:41] | jya: | which takes std::string as argument |
| [22:40:02] | jya: | the Qt generated by QString::toStdString() aren't compatible |
| [22:40:16] | ** stuarta facepalms ** | |
| [22:40:33] | Roklobotomy: | jya: how recent is ffpmeg in 0.28 trunk? |
| [22:40:42] | stuarta: | i lean towards qt-5.5 and latest osx |
| [22:41:10] | jya: | https://blog.inventic.eu/2014/01/qt-on-osx-ma . . . ture-x86_64/ |
| [22:41:24] | jya: | Roklobotomy: n2.8.5 |
| [22:41:48] | Roklobotomy: | I have some bugs in MFE to track down concerning playback in VDPAU and OpenGL mode when I get some time. |
| [22:42:21] | jya: | stuarta: I'm kinda of the same... If we can't do 10.6 or 10.7 there's no point worrying about any version |
| [22:42:25] | gary_buhrmaster: | If the 'tubes are correct, 10.8 is on less than 6% of Macs these day. And given the Apple has usually supported n, n-1, and n-2 (and 10.11 is current), I would guess 10.8 is about as close to death as Apple can make it. |
| [22:42:48] | jya: | 10.6 because it was the last one supporting Rosetta (powerpc emulator) and a few people have kept 10.6 for that |
| [22:43:02] | jya: | 10.7 because it was the last version still supporting 32 bits intel |
| [22:43:42] | jya: | there's no 32 bits support in Qt5 anymore, so you need a 64 bits mac anyway. So there's always an upgrade path for any users |
| [22:43:52] | gary_buhrmaster: | Progress is a bitch. |
| [22:44:13] | jya: | gary_buhrmaster: could you believe that over 30% of Firefox mac users are still on 10.6 ? |
| [22:44:21] | gary_buhrmaster: | (especially for those who want to continue to use their Pentium Pro systems) |
| [22:44:43] | dekarl: | ahh, we give them raspberries to replace old macs and pentiums with ;) |
| [22:45:20] | jya: | i guess they can always build against macport |
| [22:45:30] | jya: | I believe they use their own version of Qt. |
| [22:45:42] | jya: | they control how they build it. |
| [22:46:53] | gary_buhrmaster: | I do not know what that says about that set of users (I presume they are on 10.6 for the emulation). That might indicate that "new" OS X users are using Safari or Chrome. |
| [22:48:23] | jya: | gary_buhrmaster: probably the later :( |
| [22:49:04] | jya: | Roklobotomy: what do you mean by VDPAU and OpenGL mode? |
| [22:49:08] | stuarta: | jya: pvr4me might be the person to ask |
| [22:49:21] | stuarta: | he uses macports (and does the mythtv macport) |
| [22:49:24] | jya: | stuarta: was just checking his email address |
| [22:50:22] | Roklobotomy: | jya: latest VDPAU mode won't play some videos that it used to and same goes for OpenGL. When I get some time I'll investigate. |
| [22:50:33] | Roklobotomy: | latest 0.28 trunk |
| [22:51:08] | jya: | what video? I've tried almost any format that ever exists on my system, and they all play well |
| [22:51:36] | paul-h: | stuarta: just emailed the new stream.gz file |
| [22:51:37] | Roklobotomy: | jya: ok, when i dig deeper i'll try get you examples. |
| [22:51:54] | jya: | please |
| [22:51:58] | Roklobotomy: | that said, I have an old nVidia G210 card which works fine. Should I ditch it? |
| [22:52:21] | Roklobotomy: | jya: just waiting for school hols to end. 3 more days.... |
| [22:52:44] | jya: | stuarta, stuartm : I'm in London on the week from June 10th for 8 days... should catch up. |
| [22:53:01] | jya: | Roklobotomy: the oldest I have here is a 330M. |
| [22:53:18] | jya: | A G210 will be too slow for any proper deinterlacer |
| [22:53:21] | Roklobotomy: | my laptop is 330m but I don't use it for myth. |
| [22:53:38] | Roklobotomy: | g210 honestly on DVB it's been very good in vdpau. |
| [22:53:40] | jya: | the 220GT was the bare minimum really |
| [22:54:00] | jya: | especially if you're in a 60Hz country, 50Hz just okay |
| [22:54:12] | Roklobotomy: | western vic I think is 50Hz. |
| [22:54:15] | jya: | it's very borderline (I had a machine with a G210) |
| [22:54:36] | stuarta: | jya: i should be around, and am only 45mins from central london |
| [22:55:07] | Roklobotomy: | stuarta: is that about 2km as the crow flies? |
| [22:56:06] | stuartm: | heh |
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| [22:56:50] | stuarta: | hah |
| [22:57:32] | Roklobotomy: | jya: GT218 to be precise. like th rest of my hardware it doesn't get upgraded coz it won't die. |
| [22:58:07] | Roklobotomy: | myth mobo is still the original AMD CPU Nvidia 8200 GPU chipset. |
| [22:58:32] | jya: | Roklobotomy: I'm the same, I love the look & feel of my mac mini 2010 frontend. It has a DVD drive which is perfect for the kids who still watch some shows on it. |
| [22:58:36] | stuartm: | jya: no plans for that period at the moment, so barring any work related trips being announced between now and then I'll be available |
| [22:58:59] | Roklobotomy: | jya: anyway we just get MFE bombing out now on certain files as of latest upgrades. |
| [22:59:01] | jya: | Unfortunately, the 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo is struggling to do h265 videos , and if I display subtitles it immediately drops frame |
| [22:59:20] | jya: | Roklobotomy: is that for FTA TV? |
| [22:59:25] | Roklobotomy: | yes |
| [22:59:31] | jya: | channel 9 HD? |
| [22:59:37] | Roklobotomy: | regional didn't get ch9 HD alas. |
| [22:59:47] | stuartm: | Roklobotomy: same GPU in my production frontend |
| [22:59:48] | jya: | regional ? so plain mpeg2 ?? |
| [22:59:51] | Roklobotomy: | it's like 2015 here still. |
| [22:59:55] | dekarl: | jya, fwiw june 15th might be metabeers in london. not sure if that is something for you https://metabroadcast.com/search?q=metabeers |
| [22:59:57] | Roklobotomy: | pleain mpeg2 |
| [23:00:28] | jya: | i find it hard to believe vdpau would be broken with mpeg2. I use it every day personally |
| [23:00:54] | Roklobotomy: | it's not recordings, i think it's h.264/5 vids. |
| [23:01:16] | jya: | i did get frontend crashes when the backend failed to get a lock (which was happening a lot until I removed all capture cards in mythtv-setup and re-created them) |
| [23:01:21] | Roklobotomy: | and is it normal for myth to not play ipad video recordings well? |
| [23:01:32] | jya: | since playing with the capture cards, I no longer have crashes. |
| [23:01:52] | jya: | I blame the new multirec update that somehow messed up the config |
| [23:01:57] | Roklobotomy: | they are h.264 and are really messed up |
| [23:02:19] | jya: | Roklobotomy: it should play just fine, those are just h264 main profile |
| [23:02:25] | Roklobotomy: | jya: my dvb tuners are ok so I won't screw with it. I had to muck around a lot to get SBS to record. |
| [23:02:52] | Roklobotomy: | i have those old afatech af9015 cards |
| [23:03:04] | jya: | Roklobotomy: for me I use dual tuners DVB-T card. It was the 2nd tuner of every cards that when accessed would crash the backend |
| [23:04:04] | jya: | they are happauge PCIe cards. just removing the cards in mythtv-setup, re-adding them, and linking them was all I needed and it now all work beautifully. I can't tell the difference with the new config. it looks the same. but one was crashing and now it doesn't |
| [23:04:06] | Roklobotomy: | the afatech are dual. i have problems when the 2 tuners on the same card are tuned at the same time. it mucks with the i2c bus. |
| [23:04:59] | Roklobotomy: | but i look at new mobos now to replace my current one and it's hard to find anything with PCI bussed any more, let alone 2. |
| [23:05:21] | Roklobotomy: | what's a good pcie DVB tuner now? |
| [23:05:33] | jya: | Roklobotomy: why I moved to PCIe and ditch my previous DVB cards |
| [23:05:37] | jya: | they were all PCI |
| [23:06:00] | Roklobotomy: | i have a bunch of spare realtek dongles i used to use for rtlsdr |
| [23:06:28] | jya: | but when I put them in the server motherboard I'm now using, which I bought specifically to reuse those DVB cards (as finding a server motherboard today with PCI support is virtually impossible) |
| [23:06:47] | jya: | when I started the PC the first time, both cards gave me a burnt smell |
| [23:07:09] | Roklobotomy: | oh man |
| [23:07:10] | jya: | luckily (or amazingly) they were still working in my old backend box) |
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| [23:07:59] | Roklobotomy: | well if you know of any dual tuner pcie cards that work nicely let me know |
| [23:08:06] | jya: | so i had spent weeks trying to get a server motherboard (xeon processor, ECC ram) with PCI slots. which turned out to be unusable with those PCI dvb-t cards anyway |
| [23:08:15] | jya: | so I bought 3 dual tuners PCIe instead |
| [23:08:18] | jya: | they work great |
| [23:08:45] | jya: | HVR2200MCE PCI-E HVR-HVR2200 MCE |
| [23:09:04] | Roklobotomy: | ok |
| [23:09:05] | jya: | were available in Oz and for $119.68 |
| [23:09:07] | Roklobotomy: | googling |
| [23:09:23] | jya: | got them from ITSPOT.COM.AU |
| [23:09:36] | Roklobotomy: | the AF9015's were $50 at MSY |
| [23:09:48] | jya: | that's super cheap 1 |
| [23:09:49] | jya: | ! |
| [23:10:01] | Roklobotomy: | like 5 years ago |
| [23:10:33] | jya: | can find the http://www.digitalnow.com.au/product_pages/HVR2200.html |
| [23:10:36] | jya: | not cheap there |
| [23:11:21] | Roklobotomy: | shoopbot shows 2215's for $199 |
| [23:11:36] | Roklobotomy: | hmmm, might just use rtl dongles if need be |
| [23:12:26] | Roklobotomy: | yeah I really wanted their quad tuner |
| [23:12:32] | Roklobotomy: | (which started the whole rtlsdr thing BTW) |
| [23:12:34] | jya: | in any case, at the time (end of 2013) there were finally PCIe cards available on linux |
| [23:12:49] | jya: | my guess is that there are plenty now and finding a PCIe card is no longer a problem |
| [23:13:17] | Roklobotomy: | i'll have to check out antti's pages before I buy again. |
| [23:13:25] | jya: | quad-card are unusable for me due to the quality of the aerial signal |
| [23:13:36] | Roklobotomy: | did they not put in a nice preamp? |
| [23:13:44] | jya: | any cards that use a single antenna cable is a no go in my experience |
| [23:14:18] | Roklobotomy: | i am using 2x dual tuners with a splitter and a roof antenna with no amp. I do live 1.5km from the transmitter though. |
| [23:14:21] | jya: | i had to get an amplifier on the roof (a good one) and ran 4 individual antenna cable from the amp to the PC |
| [23:14:31] | jya: | and feed that through each DVB cads |
| [23:14:43] | Roklobotomy: | triple splitter as tv has an input too |
| [23:14:55] | Roklobotomy: | plenty of signal |
| [23:14:56] | jya: | now i removed one of the DVB card to use in a dev backend, so I only have 3 left |
| [23:15:21] | jya: | if i had a splitter here, i get no lock |
| [23:15:37] | Roklobotomy: | are you far from dandenong? |
| [23:16:00] | Roklobotomy: | when i lived in geelong i used to have a lot of trouble as geelong is fed from dandenong! |
| [23:16:28] | Roklobotomy: | even with amp etc. |
| [23:17:09] | Roklobotomy: | hmmm, http://www.digitalnow.com.au/dvbtcards.html 2 dual tuners. |
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