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| [10:30:20] | stuarta: | ShapeShifter499: ahah, just the person i was thinking about |
| [10:30:38] | stuarta: | did you see a new v4l2 recorder was added to master yesterday? |
| [10:31:06] | stuarta: | given you have hardware that was problematic with the old analog recorder, is this something you would be able to test? |
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| [10:40:22] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: hrm? |
| [10:41:31] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: I actually got audio working in a weird way |
| [10:41:54] | stuarta: | how many chickens did you need to sacrifice to make it work? |
| [10:42:07] | ShapeShifter499: | http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/mythtv this is what I would be running right now |
| [10:42:43] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: I just need to attempt to play it with a external program and then play it again with mythtv |
| [10:42:50] | ShapeShifter499: | not sure why though |
| [10:43:19] | ShapeShifter499: | I stumbled across it asking for help with the audio in the #alsa channel |
| [10:44:00] | stuarta: | ah right, you won't see it in those packages |
| [10:45:57] | ShapeShifter499: | hang on let me dig up that command I used |
| [10:48:08] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: arecord -fdat -Dplug:dsnoop:HVR950Q | aplay -Vstereo |
| [10:49:09] | ShapeShifter499: | if I run that, leave it going, then try to stream live tv to another device using a kodi frontend it works. The audio starts out with a half a second or so of pop noises then it plays fine and in-sync with the video |
| [10:49:26] | stuarta: | how very odd |
| [10:49:48] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: that command also magically starts playing audio locally on the laptop that has the backend |
| [10:50:03] | stuarta: | that i would expect |
| [10:50:06] | ShapeShifter499: | however no audio works if I stream alone or run that command alone |
| [10:50:31] | ShapeShifter499: | it's so odd |
| [10:53:32] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: I could probably make a video of it |
| [10:53:52] | stuarta: | clearly something isn't enabling it properly |
| [10:54:41] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: maybe it's the v4l driver since both programs are having issue getting audio alone? or maybe it's alsa? |
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| [11:24:25] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: damn upload speed lol. Video of the bug will be up in 5mins or so |
| [11:26:27] | ** stuarta snores quietly ** | |
| [11:34:57] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF5QTUcVo8Y |
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| [12:02:08] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: maybe I'll have to setup a script or something to trigger audio everytime I want a stream |
| [12:02:21] | ShapeShifter499: | if you have any other ideas shoot |
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| [12:37:57] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: where are you seeing the changelog? |
| [13:05:28] | stuarta: | eh? what changelog? i'm following mythtv-commits to see what was committed to master |
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| [13:50:44] | ShapeShifter499: | stuarta: er um oh it's right in the topic isn't it |
| [13:50:47] | ShapeShifter499: | lol |
| [13:51:18] | ShapeShifter499: | just joined |
| [14:39:34] | stuartm: | doesn't show the commit history, just new commits as they happen |
| [14:44:40] | stuarta: | ShapeShifter499: might want to start here https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commits/master |
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| [16:50:04] | dekarl: | jpabq: recorder wishlist? Kill NuppelVideo recording :) and lets add lossless transcoding defaults (IIRC its still NVR defaults) |
| [16:50:35] | stuarta: | jpabq: i'll add kill anything that requires use of liblame to encode to a recording |
| [16:51:34] | dekarl: | lame? meh, even our ffmpeg has a decent aac encoder now |
| [16:52:13] | stuarta: | yeah, i raised a ticket about it a while back, iirc correctly it's nvr that's using it to encode to mpeg2 |
| [16:52:34] | dekarl: | hmm, so master is un-feature-frozen until Feb 1st? |
| [16:53:51] | stuarta: | yes |
| [16:54:03] | stuarta: | no point in feature freezing it until we do a beta |
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| [17:16:02] | ** stuarta waves to bill6502 ** | |
| [17:16:58] | bill6502: | waves back! |
| [17:17:04] | bill6502: | stuartm: OK if I steal #11386 from you? |
| [17:17:04] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11386 ** | |
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| [17:23:54] | stuartm: | Hi bill6502, welcome to the team |
| [17:24:00] | stuartm: | yes, you may steal it :) |
| [17:25:07] | bill6502: | thanks, and will do |
| [17:25:35] | jheizer: | Hello from down state of you (I assume from DNS name) |
| [17:28:28] | bill6502: | hi, and you're right, Chicago area here |
| [17:29:10] | jheizer: | Bloomington/Normal here |
| [17:30:01] | jheizer: | Not that I'm anyone interesting or an active developer. Just a lurkers hello. |
| [17:30:08] | stuarta: | the aussie in me read "bloomin nora!!!" |
| [17:30:33] | stuarta: | jheizer: yes you are, you are a buildslave hoster ;-) |
| [17:39:41] | stuarta: | bill6502: for reference any commit you make will be built by the build network to catch any build failures |
| [17:45:07] | bill6502: | stuarta: tnx. I'm off to look at https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/waterfall |
| [17:48:13] | stuarta: | np. |
| [17:48:27] | ** stuarta makes a note to reboot alcor in the morning, it's throwing memory errors again ** | |
| [17:49:25] | dekarl: | hmm, we could unbreak the windows builder and use an osx builder... any takers? |
| [17:50:29] | stuarta: | we would need to call for volunteers |
| [17:50:41] | stuarta: | with the relevant hardware and software |
| [17:50:52] | stuarta: | both would need work |
| [17:53:57] | ** stuarta thinks about how to map the channel icon database to ruby on rails model ** | |
| [17:55:22] | stuarta: | for reference, it's not too difficult |
| [17:56:26] | jheizer: | haha yeah I have some build slaves and a web platform no one uses or will use come .28 |
| [17:56:47] | jheizer: | at which point I'll have to get off my butt and help with that |
| [17:57:07] | jheizer: | I've still got my rpi ready to be added any time |
| [17:57:10] | jheizer: | as a builder |
| [17:57:16] | stuarta: | i'm currently rewriting services.mythtv.org in ruby on rails, just because i can |
| [17:58:12] | stuarta: | well, that and it would be nice to develop in something easily maintainable by anyone |
| [17:59:30] | jheizer: | somehow I've never touched ruby before |
| [17:59:54] | stuarta: | i have a lot of time for rails, once you get your head around a few things it's really quite nice |
| [18:00:01] | stuarta: | excellent docs too |
| [18:00:08] | jheizer: | I did play around on the node hype train for a while |
| [18:00:31] | stuarta: | pfft, that's the gui level stuff i'm not even going to look at initially |
| [18:00:38] | stuarta: | but it integrates well with that |
| [18:02:14] | stuarta: | site #1 – services, nice simple little rest endping |
| [18:02:14] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1 ** | |
| [18:02:14] | jheizer: | Hard after having so many years of .net all my brain does is going I could do this so much faster staying in my familiar world. |
| [18:02:26] | stuarta: | site #2 – smolt.mythtv.org, needs a complete rewrite |
| [18:02:26] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2 ** | |
| [18:02:44] | jheizer: | mess aroudn with node but with no real application there was no point and I eventually lose interest |
| [18:03:02] | stuarta: | that's the thing isn't it, you need to have something you want to implement |
| [18:03:51] | jheizer: | Or my idea is the lets be the nex social what ever and the next thing you know you planned so much you thing man this will be a lot of work and quit too. haha |
| [18:04:17] | jheizer: | cause let's be honest, I'm not going to make the next facetubeweet |
| [18:05:06] | jheizer: | I think back when I was doing the node stuff I wanted to help with a new channel service, but then I got sucked into 6 months of 12+ hours days |
| [18:05:15] | jheizer: | and haven't really moved back into fun programming since then |
| [18:05:45] | stuarta: | part of rewriting services, is to make it more accessible to people wanting to improve the interface |
| [18:06:14] | stuarta: | and the interface currently sucks badle |
| [18:06:17] | stuarta: | *badly |
| [18:06:25] | stuarta: | right, time to go talk to the family |
| [18:06:27] | ** stuarta wanders off ** | |
| [18:06:32] | jheizer: | Enjoy |
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| [20:12:53] | dekarl: | stuarta, instead of "no tuner backends" we can always setup a sample IPTV tuner with a channel list / EPG from services.mythtv.org |
| [20:18:51] | dekarl: | jpabq: some tests are rawtype == "V4L2ENC", others rawtype == "V4L2enc". Is that on purpose? (I forgot where these magic strings are case-in-sentive and where not) |
| [20:20:11] | jpabq: | dekarl: no, rawtypes are supposed to always be upper case. I will take a look at it. |
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| [20:22:10] | jpabq: | Speaking of mixed-case, I named all the /files/ lower case just to keep Jean-Yves from having a corinary. Personally, I would prefer having the file names be mixed case — it makes them easier to read. |
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| [20:26:44] | stuarta: | dekarl: only problem with a sample iptv tuner is the available free channel would constantly be changing |
| [20:27:10] | jpabq: | dekarl: BTW, thanks for reviewing the patch. I appreciate it. |
| [20:27:26] | dekarl: | Going through the changes to recordingprofile.cpp makes me wonder about all the untranslated labels. |
| [20:28:29] | jpabq: | dekarl: Yeah, I was wondering about that too. I was really trying to make this V4L2 recorder 'dynamic' where the driver reported the options supported. I didn't quite reach that goal. If the options are dynamic, how do we translate them? |
| [20:29:13] | stuarta: | jpabq: i had in mind supporting whatever tuners v4l2 supports and handling them based on their capabilities |
| [20:30:10] | jpabq: | Some V4L2 drivers support TS. Others PS. Others claim they can do either, but in reality cannot. I discovered that V4L2 drivers either don't bother to report all their options, or they lie. |
| [20:30:48] | stuarta: | what a pain |
| [20:32:06] | jpabq: | When I started working on that 'recorder' the goal was for multi-rec. The more I dug into the documentation, the more I /though/ I could make it all dynamic. That turned into a big rabbit-hole. |
| [20:32:37] | stuarta: | ah see i thought the idea was to throw out NVR and properly support devices via the v4l2 api |
| [20:33:35] | jpabq: | I have NO intention on adding NVR to this new V4L2 recorder. When we decide the new V4L2 recorder is solid, I intend to strip out the old mpegrecorder & NVR. |
| [20:33:36] | dekarl: | I was thinking about all the hardcoded strings for the configuration UI. e.g. "MPEG-2 Hardware Encoder" or "Variable Bitrate". |
| [20:34:31] | jpabq: | dekarl: Those strings are supposed to returned by the V4L2 driver as a 'menu' of options. However, the analog driver the HVR-2250 (for example) does not bother to return ANYTHING when asked for that menu. |
| [20:35:15] | stuarta: | jpabq: do we need to send a survey request out to the users list. ie. please run this command and let us know what it reports. |
| [20:35:25] | dekarl: | For dynamic strings we could setup something similar to themestrings.h |
| [20:35:33] | jpabq: | dekarl: You are welcome to make any changes you think are necessary to the code I committed. Alternately, feel free to request that I make changes. |
| [20:35:36] | dekarl: | not sure how useful that is, though |
| [20:35:55] | jpabq: | stuarta: that is a very interesting idea. I will do that. |
| [20:36:36] | ** stuarta tries to remember the command ** | |
| [20:37:22] | jpabq: | v4l2-ctl -d /dev/video0 --all |
| [20:37:27] | jpabq: | or something like that. |
| [20:37:28] | stuarta: | that's the one ;-) |
| [20:37:53] | stuarta: | ShapeShifter499: what's your v4l2-ctl show for your devices? |
| [20:38:16] | stuarta: | jpabq: ShapeShifter499 has one of these devices that has non trivial requirements, but is quite common in userland |
| [20:38:17] | jpabq: | actually that does not return the menu, just the controls. |
| [20:38:28] | stuarta: | 292e iirc |
| [20:38:40] | stuarta: | what's the menu even for? |
| [20:39:25] | jpabq: | The menu is specifically designed to allow an application to be able to easily represent the options in a human readable format. |
| [20:39:32] | dekarl: | jpabq: I'm not sure what makes sense. Maybe something that translation maintainers of languages with different characters can add some insight there. |
| [20:40:43] | jpabq: | It may not matter, since we can't trust drivers to return usefull strings. |
| [20:41:21] | jpabq: | v4l2-ctl -d /dev/hdpvr0 -L |
| [20:41:41] | jpabq: | The '-L' option shows the menu as defined by the driver. |
| [20:46:07] | jpabq: | dekarl: where did you see rawtype == "V4L2enc" ? |
| [20:48:46] | dekarl: | libmythtv/cardutil.h:137, libmythtv/cardutil.h:186 |
| [20:49:26] | jpabq: | Ah. I didn't look in headers. Thanks. |
| [20:59:24] | bill6502: | is the above ^^^ related to: https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mas . . . e/logs/stdio (same thing happens on my 14.04 hosts, but not on my 15.10 one, the 4 new V4L2_CTRL_*s don't exist in /lib/modules/3.13.0-74-generic/build/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h) |
| [21:01:44] | jpabq: | Hi bill6502. Thanks. I asked the V4L2 folks what to do about that, and they say that most apps ship with their own copy of the header file, instead of relying on the system. I will be making that change. |
| [21:02:58] | dekarl: | sounds like the openmax solution ;) |
| [21:03:06] | stuarta: | a simple #ifndef should do the trick |
| [21:03:33] | jpabq: | stuarta: unfortunately, some of the missing vars are in an enum instead of being a #define |
| [21:03:53] | dekarl: | that would not allow compiling again an older linuxtv tree but running against a newer one |
| [21:03:54] | ** stuarta facepalms ** | |
| [21:06:32] | jpabq: | So where should 'our' copy of videodev2.h go? external/V4L2/videodev2.h ? The 'system' copy is in /usr/include/linux/videodev2.h |
| [21:07:47] | jpabq: | Or, just put in in lib/libmythtv where the files that use it are? |
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| [21:08:03] | stuarta: | that is what i would do in this case, it's not an entire library |
| [21:08:37] | jpabq: | Okay. That is the easiest since that way I don't have to mess with the include path. |
| [21:09:57] | dekarl: | Does it need updates every now and then? maybe we can have a external/kitchensink for single files |
| [21:10:36] | jpabq: | If we ever needed new features, then we would need to update it. I have a feeling that would be very rare, though. |
| [21:10:46] | stuarta: | i concur |
| [21:11:44] | stuarta: | dekarl: if we do that, we couldn't integrate this ;-) https://github.com/puppetlabs/clj-kitchensink |
| [21:12:08] | dekarl: | ahh, but this has a prefix, lets keep it |
| [21:12:37] | stuarta: | :-p |
| [21:12:41] | dekarl: | btw, is there a services-ng repo or something for the curious to peek at? |
| [21:13:14] | stuarta: | hardly, it's currently 1 controller which implements the sample/videos |
| [21:13:17] | stuarta: | path |
| [21:13:47] | stuarta: | samples/video even |
| [21:16:53] | stuarta: | dekarl: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/312568/45323819/ |
| [21:17:01] | stuarta: | that's it so far ;-P |
| [21:18:14] | dekarl: | so small and already has business value ;) |
| [21:19:28] | stuarta: | it's the equivalent of this bit http://paste.fedoraproject.org/312571/23835414/ |
| [21:20:38] | stuarta: | note the militant coding in the last one.... |
| [21:22:48] | dekarl: | hmm, I can buy that domain :( |
| [21:24:56] | stuarta: | yeah, torc seems to have died |
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| [21:27:23] | jpabq: | Will the buildbots automatically run again, or do I have to restart them? |
| [21:28:20] | stuarta: | jpabq: every commit triggers them |
| [21:28:57] | jpabq: | Good. I just wanted to make sure. I had this vague memory that they didn't get auto-triggered after a failed compile. |
| [21:29:44] | stuarta: | never heard of such a thing |
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| [21:31:31] | jpabq: | https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/waterfall |
| [21:31:52] | stuarta: | yep, that's it |
| [21:32:13] | jpabq: | According to that, there are several bots saying they are failing to compile. |
| [21:32:15] | jheizer: | we're racing |
| [21:32:49] | stuarta: | freebsd and windows are expected, they've been failing for months |
| [21:33:04] | jpabq: | No Qt5.2 on FreeBSD? |
| [21:33:14] | stuarta: | wagnerp needs to install it |
| [21:34:24] | dekarl: | I vaguely remember asking him about that and its something with our configure not finding it |
| [21:35:04] | stuarta: | if that's so, it's clearly not a priority |
| [21:35:28] | dekarl: | around that time https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/7a722 . . . 9403ece4cb2d |
| [21:36:11] | ** stuarta pokes jessie 32bit buildslave ** | |
| [21:51:08] | MythBuild: | build #311 of master-ubuntu-lts-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/311 |
| [21:52:16] | stuarta: | MythBuild: force build master-debian-jessie-64bit try harder |
| [21:52:17] | MythBuild: | build #327 forced |
| [21:52:17] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
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| [21:57:14] | MythBuild: | Hey! build master-debian-jessie-64bit #327 is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] |
| [21:57:14] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/327 ** | |
| [21:57:14] | MythBuild: | Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/327 |
| [21:57:46] | stuarta: | jheizer: erm, where has QString gone on that builder? |
| [21:57:56] | jheizer: | I was just looking at that |
| [21:58:05] | jheizer: | at first I had assumed it was the .h talked about earlier |
| [21:58:59] | stuarta: | should be here /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/QtCore/QString |
| [21:59:18] | stuarta: | `locate QString` is your friend |
| [21:59:35] | jheizer: | logging into it now |
| [21:59:37] | jheizer: | taking forever |
| [22:00:31] | jheizer: | hmm |
| [22:00:35] | jheizer: | no gt5 folder there |
| [22:00:37] | jheizer: | qt5 |
| [22:00:45] | stuarta: | try the locate command |
| [22:00:46] | jheizer: | and locate only found it in qt4 folders |
| [22:00:51] | stuarta: | ew |
| [22:01:01] | stuarta: | where dem packages gone.... |
| [22:01:04] | MythBuild: | build #709 of master-centos7–64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/709 |
| [22:01:13] | jheizer: | weird |
| [22:01:20] | stuarta: | indeed |
| [22:01:23] | jheizer: | haven't touched it in forever. hasn't even been rebooted in a few weeks |
| [22:02:06] | jheizer: | I think it only has qt4 maybe |
| [22:02:22] | jheizer: | pkg-config --modversion QtCore |
| [22:02:23] | jheizer: | 4.8.6 |
| [22:02:23] | jheizer: | jon@mythtv-buildslave-jessie-master:/$ qmake --version |
| [22:02:23] | jheizer: | QMake version 2.01a |
| [22:02:23] | jheizer: | Using Qt version 4.8.6 in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu |
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| [22:03:17] | jheizer: | oh I see qt5 in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5 |
| [22:03:39] | jheizer: | bin libexec mkspecs plugins |
| [22:03:53] | jheizer: | only folders in there |
| [22:04:05] | stuarta: | definitely missing some packages by the look of it |
| [22:05:52] | jheizer: | checking the ones that install via the ansible now |
| [22:05:56] | jheizer: | missing at least one so far |
| [22:06:58] | jheizer: | MythBuild: force build master-debian-jessie-64bit how about now |
| [22:06:58] | MythBuild: | build #328 forced |
| [22:06:58] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
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| [22:15:44] | stuarta: | jheizer: that's working better. thanks |
| [22:16:27] | jheizer: | no problem |
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| [22:44:39] | MythBuild: | build #328 of master-debian-jessie-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/328 |
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| [23:06:49] | jpabq: | When was 0.27 officially cut? |
| [23:08:24] | stuarta: | Date: Wed Sep 18 21:06:08 2013 +0100 |
| [23:08:30] | stuarta: | that's 0.27.0 |
| [23:08:51] | stuarta: | .5 -> Date: Tue Jun 16 17:03:30 2015 +0100 |
| [23:10:16] | jpabq: | stuarta: thanks. I am trying to decide if I need to maintain backwards compatibility with the ExternalRecorder API. Technically that 'recorder' was not added for 0.27. It would make my lift a lot easier if I assumed no one was using it... |
| [23:10:58] | stuarta: | not knowing exactly what you are up to, i'd leave it out :-p |
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| [23:11:07] | stuarta: | you can always retrofit it |
| [23:11:42] | jpabq: | Right now, the api is simplistic, but lacking features. I want to change it to use JSON. |
| [23:11:51] | jpabq: | major change. |
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| [23:14:55] | jpabq: | Since the HDPVR 2 uses libusb and a bunch of code from Hauppauge, the easiest way to implement it is with an ExternalRecorder, but it needs to published a lot of the same 'capabilties' as the V4L2 stuff for the original HD PVR. |
| [23:16:25] | stuarta: | sounds like fun |
| [23:21:02] | gigem: | jpabq: I vaguely remember the time when the IVTV driver made it into Linus' kernel and we could remove videodev2.h from our source code. |
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| [23:23:15] | jpabq: | gigem: yes it is there. Unfortunately there is no version control/check method. The version shipping with Centos7 is older than I coded for, so it doesn't compile. |
| [23:31:31] | gigem: | Right, I know. I was merely pointing out that we've come full circle. |
| [23:38:37] | stuarta: | oh arse, got all my definitions backwards |
| [23:39:14] | jpabq: | gigem: Ah. You forgot the smiley at the end :-) |
| [23:39:45] | gigem: | :) |
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