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Tuesday, January 12th, 2016, 00:10 UTC

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stuarta:

morning all

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dekarl1 is now known as dekarl

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stuarta:

so the more i think about this, something is going wrong when we have 2 different types of fixups keyed off the tsid/netid

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stuarta:

the one that don't work are all set as "EITFixUp::kFixUK | EITFixUp::kFixHTML;"

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stuarta:

sigh, but the unit tests work just fine.

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stuartm:

need unit tests for the unit tests?

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stuarta:

stuartm: btw. just raised #12600 for you

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12600 **

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stuartm:

thanks

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stuarta:

do you want a ticket about the hard coding of the websocket port?

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stuartm:

don't like that old js page load stuff, need to slowly replace it all ... path works when called directly – http://localhost:6544/Status/GetStatusHTML

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stuartm:

stuarta: can't hurt, I'll try to get it sorted this week but in case I don't a reminder in the form of a ticket may be necessary

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stuarta:

yes that works, not pretty, but the data is there

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stuartm:

it's a one line change iirc

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stuarta:

do we use port 6545 for anything?

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stuarta:

yes we do

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** dekarl shouts shipit! **

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stuarta:

oddly only in 0.27

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** stuarta goes in search of food **

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dekarl:

GetMythDB()->GetNumSetting("LCDServerPort", 6545);

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stuarta:

must have that disabled

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stuartm:

can probably be phased out in favour of the Services API – probably a vanishingly small number of people even using that feature

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stuartm:

allowed third party scripts/apps to send messages to be sent to the LCD through mythbackend iirc

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stuarta:

i'd call it legacy crap, and leave it alone unless someone with the relevant hardware cares enough to touch it

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stuarta:

then again, how much actually lcd hardware is there still around?

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stuarta:

i had one case with it, was never supported by the kernel so went unused

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stuarta:

that frontend has been replaced by a nuc

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stuartm:

I've actually just bought two character and one graphics lcd ;) However those are for another project unrelated to MythTV

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dekarl:

stuarta, I'm actually considering that as a nice thing for the Raspberry stuff, where attaching a IR receiver with lirc support or a hs44780 display with lcdproc support comes down to 5 wires and three resistors

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stuarta:

dekarl: that's more likely where interest will lie

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stuartm:

I still have the lcd I bought for my original mythtv backend in a drawer, no use for it once I bought my nice brushed aluminium case a few years back

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dekarl:

I have a bag of graphic and text lcds around that are waiting for some soldering, too. its only been like 8 years or so

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stuartm:

dekarl: more if you have one with a RGB backlight – some potential there maybe, use colours to indicate status – recording, failure, idle etc

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stuartm:

might be a fun little addition to that old code to add the RGB support to Myth

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dekarl:

tgm4883: superm1: http://lists.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-user . . . /384286.html looks like the daily PPA build is borked

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dekarl:

what's up with everyone wetting their panties about HEVC feature announcements? Can't they just fire up a combines frontend/backend and see what happens?

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stuarta:

:)

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lautriv_:

i have issues with libavcodec on a new frontend ?

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stuarta:

i have issues with the lack of tea in my teacup

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dekarl:

I have issues with the lack of confidence in the release that just went into feature freeze

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** stuarta chuckles **

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stuarta:

i really don't fancy porting mythweb to php7

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stuarta:

that will suck

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dekarl:

someone had the crazy idea of just packaging the mythweb docker image containing php5...

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dekarl:

its not as if we didn't have an open pull request allowing to build docker images for all versions

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lautriv_:

i guessed mythweb is redundant when 0.28 is released ?

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dekarl:

lautriv_: not yet

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dekarl:

nobody wants to work on it, but everyone wants to use it (for some values of nobody and everyone)

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lautriv_:

dekarl, mythweb or 0.28 ?

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dekarl:

lautriv_: mythweb :)

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stuarta:

lautriv_: mythweb as far as i'm concerned is in maintenance mode only. if people want to patch it to fix things, i'll commit them, otherwise nothing is happening

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lautriv_:

sure, no good coder wants the pain of a webapp ;)

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stuarta:

there's webapp's and there's legacy php apps

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dekarl:

but webapps are the best thing since sliced bread

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** stuarta is currently liking ruby on rails **

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lautriv_:

are they ?

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dekarl:

are they not?

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dekarl:

they are so modern and hip, with central updates, not funky client installation issues. almost as good as dumb terminals attached to a host, but with pictures ;)

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** stuarta gets cross with that guy from .de with his HEVC ramblings **

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dekarl:

Why does nobody care for stereoscopic playback? Its one of our nice 90/10 features with 90% finished, just needs polish and hooking up all data pipes.

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** dekarl makes not to self to write up a list of all the 90/10 projects that are out there for pickup, like gpucommflag **

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stuarta:

EDEAD

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stuarta:

:killit:

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stuarta:

do we have a preference between ext/mysqli or ext/pdo_mysql ??

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stuarta:

probably the former

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** stuarta tries sed -e 's/mysql_/mysqli_/' **

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stuarta:

broke it ;-)

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stuarta:

somebody using php7 can fix that

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stuarta:

makes me wonder what of the mythtv infrastructure will barf if fedora does that transistion

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jheizer:

wow has there been a lot of php7 moving into distors already?

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jheizer:

I would have thought it would have taken a few more months still

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superm1:

dekarl: thanks for heads up, looks like something might be failing to run

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jheizer:

oh .28 premtive work, nm

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superm1:

tgm4883: http://download.mythbuntu.org/daily_mythtv.txt looks bad

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gary_buhrmaster:

Apparently arch is the leader (bleeder) here. I actually expect most to ship a concurrent package for transition ("php7-core", or whatever).

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jheizer:

can't say I've read up on all the changes either, but yeah I expected the same. Mopst did that with 4 as well right?

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tgm4883:

superm1: crap, I know what the issue is :/

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tgm4883:

lets just say I half finished something, but just half enough to break something else

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tgm4883:

I can fix it tonight

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superm1:

okay

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tgm4883:

maybe earlier if I get time

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tgm4883:

I'll push a new build once I do

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tgm4883:

I should setup a dead mans switch

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stuarta:

sheesh, there are around 1000 packages related to php in f23

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gary_buhrmaster:

And likely most will not care (although will need to test) with php7. Such transitions do tend to clean the cruft out of the package list. For fedora, some cruft might (is) a good idea.

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gary_buhrmaster:

(some cruft -> some cruft removal)

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gary_buhrmaster:

The python 3 default is also cleaning some cruft (although causing some challenges due to the transitions).

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stuarta:

this is most definitely cruft -> http://sourceforge.net/projects/toothchart/

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jheizer:

hahahaha

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stuarta:

seriously, wtf has shit like that been written, let alone packaged

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gary_buhrmaster:

Nathan is the most important person in the world. How dare you claim that is cruft!

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dekarl:

but itsa on sf! its relevant for adware distribution

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gary_buhrmaster:

(for those that did not follow the links, Nathan is apparently the name of the baby for which the growth is being tracked)

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jheizer:

Built by a snowman

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jheizer:

n

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dekarl:

stuarta, btw mythweb itself suggests mysqli or similar (stumbled upon that while going through missing german translations)

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gary_buhrmaster:

dekarl: A quick scan of (one of) the mythweb files sort of looked to me that it would try mysqli only after it had loaded mysql (an "auto-upgrade", I guess, from the php 4 to 5 days?). I spent no additional time than that.

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gary_buhrmaster:

dekarl: I keep trying to distance myself from having to refresh my php brain cells. I suppose if I get really bored I will look more carefully.

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gary_buhrmaster:

dekarl: But I am really really hoping that someone on the users list will get motivated to step up. There must be at least one person who is a php expert out there.

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gary_buhrmaster:

dekarl: Of course, everyone seems to want someone else to do the work (just like with HEVC; just test it, if you want to know if it will work.....).

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dekarl:

aye, lets see what happens

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dekarl:

"did you try to run mythweb in docker?" ;)

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dekarl:

"its hip, you know"

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gigem:

Does anyone have an URL suitable for testing the IPTV recorder in the US?

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dekarl:

gigem, maybe one of these is not geoblocked? https://github.com/Pavion/tvstreamrecord/wiki/Multithek

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jheizer:

this one just worked for me in US http://x4012c4000.edge.core-cdn.net/40000mb/l . . . bloomberg.ts

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jheizer:

was curious

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gigem:

dekarl: That looks promising. Thanks. I see you have shopping channels too. :)

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jheizer:

Not very stable though

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jheizer:

at least for me

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gigem:

jheizer: Thanks, too

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paul-h:

gigem: There is also http://www.avenard.org/files/media/playlist-hls.m3u &nda sh; not all of them still work but twit-tv still works

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paul-h:

https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Setti . . . ing_Recorder

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gigem:

paul-h: Thanks.

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pvr4me:

Remind me, why is Myth shipping a copy of libbluray? Is it actually modified?

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peper03:

It's a lot less modified than it was.

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peper03:

It's actually currently pretty much identical with upstream since it became possible to move our modifications (basically support for storage groups) out of the library.

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peper03:

But having our own copy allows us to be more cutting-edge by not relying on a distribution's version being up-to-date.

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peper03:

At the moment that's a bit moot as we're not making the most out of it, but (just as an example) Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is still shipping v0.6.2, which is 16 months old and there have been a ton of changes since then.

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peper03:

If I ever get the time to improve our Bluray support, I don't really want to have to fight with old, incompatible versions.

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dekarl:

gary_buhrmaster: that was the wrong end of the hash ;) 98636ea8 -> ba9cc93a, you don't happen to sit on a patch?

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gary_buhrmaster:

(sorry about the hash end). No, I figured I could write one quick enough if lvr did not wish to clean it up. I have this attitude that those that make the mess should have first opportunity to clean it up.

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dekarl:

is it just noisy or does it break the build?

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dekarl:

wondering if we need a "pure qt5" buildbot

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gary_buhrmaster:

Just noisy. That is why it is lower priority for me.

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dekarl:

Ok. If it was breaking the build and you had a one-liner patch around I'd have suggested to contribute it. But if its just noisy...

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gary_buhrmaster:

We used to have them (well, a few), but thanks to stuarta's work, the buildbots were able to move to (peaceful) coexistance.

[22:14:08]

gary_buhrmaster:

If it was breaking the build I would have made a bigger fuss (and probably provided a patch with a real ticket and everything).

[22:17:36]

gary_buhrmaster:

The patch is (likely) as simple as breaking line 7006 into the appropriate pkg-config --exists sections (one for Qt4, one for Qt5). Of course, that would mean I would have to test in a Qt4 only environ, a Qt5 only environ, and an environ with both.

[22:18:15]

gary_buhrmaster:

The triple testing is what causes me to want to wait (I sometimes submit bad patches, but I always try to test them in all relevant cases first).

[22:18:55]

gary_buhrmaster:

And I would refer you to my recent comment about being (especially) lazy this week.

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