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[07:24:19] markspieth: I have also noticed that the displayed time during playback is pre buffering and display. At end of video, displayed timestamp freezes until the buffer is empty then the video stops.
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[16:07:05] stuarta: bored now waiting for the dev laptop to finish upgrading to f23
[16:07:52] gigem: taylorr: I use yadif on my dev system when using the on-board, intel video. If ffmpeg has its own, better version, all the better.
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[16:41:17] taylorr: gigem: any thoughts on yadif vs vdpau deinterlacing quality?
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[17:46:42] gigem: taylorr: With my poor vision, you're probably asking the wrong person. However, IMHO, it's probably not as good as VDPAU advanced nor VAAPI MCDI. I don't know about VAAPI temporal or VAAPI MADI. As for other software deinterlacers, it's certainly the best of that lot and, again IMHO, is acceptable with the caveat that it's still somewhat compute intensive, even for today's processors.
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[18:40:57] taylorr: gigem: thanks for the input.. I hope to soon add the current yadif 2x filter option for opengl rendering.. currently we only software base deinterlacer for opengel rendering is bob 2x... I'm hoping there is no technical reason why yadif was left out
[18:42:16] taylorr: then I'd like to replace with the ffmpeg yadif deinterlacer and do comparisons such as quality and cpu difference between the old yadif filter and ffmpeg
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[19:11:23] dekarl: taylorr: ahh, we have quite a backlog of ffmpeg deprecation warnings to look at. e.g. https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mas . . . s%20%2871%29
[19:12:36] dekarl: Once I took a glance at it, but could easily find documentation on what has been deprecated in favour of what else, and how to rework the code.
[19:12:55] dekarl: s/could easily/could not easily/
[19:19:06] gigem: taylorr: I don't understand. yadif is definitely offered to me when using opengl rendering. Are you saying it isn't offered to you or that anything higher than bob is silently ignored when opengl is used?
[19:19:57] taylorr: gigem: looking at the code all I see is bob 2x but I might be looking at the wrong thing
[19:24:39] taylorr: in VideoOutputOpenGL::ApproveDeintFilter() only filters that contain the name "opengl" or "bobdeint" return true... I'm probably missing something... haven't had a chance to test with debug output to know what's really happening
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[19:39:24] stuartm: stuarta: https://letsencrypt.org – Public beta now in effect :)
[19:41:13] taylorr: gigem: you can chain a motion compensation deint filter to the yadif filter in ffmpeg – once we get ffmpeg deinterlacing filters setup it will be easy to test – something like "yadif:1:-1:mcdeint:x:x"
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[19:55:05] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: I only wish they had managed to get IPv6 (only) reachable servers supported (it is an issue in their validation DataCenter). I have a number of IPv6 only servers I would like to get certs for (yes, there are some workarounds using SANs, or various transitory proxies, but it can be painful).
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[20:07:57] gigem: taylorr: I make no claims that the yadif filter still works correctly with opengl, but I can confirm that myth lets me configure it in the playback profiles and from the OSD in 0.27-fixes. I'll recheck the former in master shortly. I can't test the latter at the momemnt (opengl video doesn't appear to work at all or at least acceptably over x2go).
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[20:09:41] taylorr: gigem: sorry for the confusion but opengl supports all the cpu deinterlacers... apparently the opengl renderer contain the opengl deinterlacers plus a "soft" bob deinterlacer
[20:11:56] taylorr: another good reason to use ffmpeg for filtering is that the pts timestamps should be preserved... when we let the rendering engines perform filtering at that stage the extra processing delays aren't compensated for in the a/v sync code
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[20:14:46] gigem: taylorr: No problem. I imagine the ffmpeg are better maintained, so by all means, keep moving in that direction.
[20:14:46] taylorr: we try to compensate for the audio delay after it is sent to alsa but don't have anything for the video side.... it's not an easy problem to solve when you support so many different configurations
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[20:27:11] jheizer_: ugh I have no idea why I keep dropping.
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[20:30:11] jheizer: Got on a new server that time. Hopefully that helps. Sorry for all the bounces.
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