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| [06:30:35] | dekarl: | enyc: can't our users install a different (older) package then in the base os? |
| [06:31:43] | dekarl: | enyc, if our users want to use more then 2 years old releases, then its hard to offer these for all supported platforms latest and greatest release |
| [06:33:18] | dekarl: | I see all the threads on the forum/list about upgrading from 0.20, 0.22 etc to 0.27. So I know they are out there, but we have to draw a line somewhere |
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| [07:34:07] | enyc: | nods =) |
| [07:34:54] | enyc: | dekarl: well, if the base_os _includes_ a newer package with the same name, it will tend to do the whole 'newer version already installed' thing or otherwise prefer the version already in the distro. |
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| [07:35:31] | enyc: | dekarl: completely agree only want a few supported versions etc., don't wont to go way back! |
| [07:47:08] | lautriv: | enyc, you may consider to pull from git, when setting head to a specific commit all machines would use the very same version regardless of the linux-variant. |
| [07:50:51] | lautriv: | stuarta, got more power from dock ? |
| [07:50:53] | enyc: | lautriv: indeed, if building your own packages etc etc =) |
| [07:52:03] | lautriv: | enyc, that said i run 0.28/master fixed to a specific commit and it's worth the efford. much more responsive. |
| [08:14:17] | stuarta: | lautriv: nope, it's the dvb driver smashing the stack |
| [08:14:36] | stuarta: | see http://fpaste.org/270729/44304004/ |
| [08:16:01] | stuarta: | debian/ubuntu/mint don't crash because they don't use the same stack protection |
| [08:17:58] | lautriv: | stuarta, but "firmware download failed -95" appears to render the stick in an uninitialized state, maybe dev/dev* got feed with garbage. |
| [08:18:11] | lautriv: | /dev/dvb* |
| [08:20:58] | stuarta: | maybe |
| [08:21:08] | stuarta: | still shouldn't smash the stack tho |
| [08:22:10] | lautriv: | if it spits a large amount of BS on the node, because not loadiong FW which in turn may happen because underpowered....just a guess but did the FW load on a desktop ? |
| [08:23:02] | stuarta: | that stack trace is from the kdump |
| [08:23:42] | stuarta: | it appeared to load on my mint box |
| [08:23:59] | stuarta: | but i had no signal there, so can't really tell if it worked or not |
| [08:24:17] | stuarta: | by appeared to load, there was no firmware load failed msg |
| [08:24:25] | lautriv: | the mint box was a desktop ? |
| [08:25:10] | stuarta: | it's an old mac mini, so close enough |
| [08:25:22] | stuarta: | 1st gen intel mac mini |
| [08:29:36] | lautriv: | by definition, the regular power is limited to 500mA (2,5W on 5 V) this is borderline for some hdd and i could imagine this tuner too. some machines can override this to up to 2A, defined "special case" if one needs to load batteries via USB. hdd vendors are tricking by Y-wires using a second USB to split the current to 2 limiters. if your machine is able to feed more, there is a setting somewhere below /sys which may set the limit higher. |
| [08:30:06] | stuarta: | the dock will be able to provide more than enough power, as would the usb3 port i tried it on. |
| [08:30:19] | stuarta: | no amount of power is going to fix a stack smash tho |
| [08:31:50] | lautriv: | the stack will probably not be smashed if the stick stays ready to receive the FW. however still an assumtion. ( if the dock can feed more, it need still to be set higher ) |
| [08:34:52] | stuarta: | anyway i'm going to get it reported and see what happens |
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| [08:50:41] | stuarta: | and bug raised |
| [08:59:24] | lautriv: | wife missed 2 recordings yesterday due to a backend crash :( does anyone know if i can d/l somthing from vox(germany) without registering with their app ? |
| [09:14:08] | stuarta: | doh |
| [09:45:20] | stuarta: | lautriv: i run my backend under monit, so if it crashes it gets restarted. Having said that, it hasn't crashed for several years now |
| [10:52:52] | stuarta: | #12414 |
| [10:52:52] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12414 ** | |
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| [11:05:54] | lautriv: | stuarta, the one which crashes mostly may have another issue, it is used to crash also on massive network-traffic . |
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| [13:12:25] | maddawg3: | can mythtv run on a windows machine? |
| [13:12:41] | maddawg3: | i was trying to find the download for windows but all i could find were source code files |
| [13:13:08] | maddawg3: | i dont mind setting up a linux box, it's just i'm trying to set it up on my home desktop remotely... which is running windows :-( |
| [13:13:18] | maddawg3: | mainly for the WMC and my hdhomerun |
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| [13:19:43] | stuarta: | maddawg3: the windows port is a bit of an experiment, it's mainly the frontend that can run, but you need to build it yourself |
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| [13:35:45] | maddawg3: | gotcha |
| [13:53:08] | lautriv: | alternatively use a proper OS :P |
| [13:56:13] | ** stuarta chuckles ** | |
| [14:00:30] | lautriv: | just as a sidenote ... if you ever care about a frontend running on something embedded, choose anything but rockchip based SoC. |
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| [14:02:13] | stuarta: | lautriv: choose proper hardware :-p |
| [14:04:29] | lautriv: | stuarta, the actual targed is well suited, 4 cores on 1.6 GHz, 4 GPUs 2G RAM and a consumption like my alarm-clock in the bedroom just some propietray parts that make a pain to adopt all. |
| [14:07:26] | lautriv: | ... but more painful to use kodi an androshit :o) |
| [14:07:35] | lautriv: | s/an/on/ |
| [14:12:26] | lautriv: | (btw. i got the joke with the analogy) |
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| [15:43:19] | maddawg3: | i just scored an awesome computer for 100% free |
| [15:43:45] | maddawg3: | Dell Precision T7500 with 2 x Intel XEON X5550 |
| [15:43:51] | maddawg3: | with 32GB of RAM |
| [15:44:08] | maddawg3: | and 4 x 1TB Western Digital Black 7200rpm hard drives |
| [15:44:42] | stuarta: | shiny++ |
| [15:45:59] | tgm4883: | noice |
| [15:53:05] | stuarta: | certainly make a nice host for many things |
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| [16:24:51] | lautriv: | i got a video.mkv which is HD, suggestions for a simple way to recode it to SD ? |
| [16:25:27] | stuarta: | handbrake |
| [16:25:39] | stuarta: | or ffmpeg |
| [16:25:54] | lautriv: | maddawg3, that is your chance to dive into linux ;) |
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| [16:29:31] | maddawg3: | i already have linux |
| [16:29:35] | maddawg3: | lol i'm a linux admin |
| [16:29:49] | maddawg3: | i just didnt have it on my home pc i was gonna throw mythtv on |
| [16:29:59] | stuarta: | \o/ |
| [16:30:03] | maddawg3: | i will put it on it tho |
| [16:30:13] | maddawg3: | i only had it set up for windows for the wmc |
| [16:30:28] | maddawg3: | cuz it's the only way to play my DRM channels from the hdhomerun |
| [16:30:39] | maddawg3: | that and an android nexus or something |
| [16:37:59] | lautriv: | stuarta, handbrake tells me that source is 720x404 h264 with aspect 1:1.78 ... should be called SD already, no ? |
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| [19:09:46] | dekarl: | lautriv: funny resolution. it has quare pixels but pseudo SD width. I would expected 704x576 for PAL SD widescreen with anamorphic / non-square pixels. But yes, that would commonly be called SD/HQ, likely it was sourced from a HD signal |
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| [19:12:38] | lautriv: | dekarl, i wondered too. however handbrake made a m4v which works like a charm. |
| [19:14:13] | lautriv: | still curious if myth may move to h265 by default in near future where i don't care about filesize but reduced network load. |
| [19:17:45] | dekarl: | lautriv: what network? By default MythTV does not encode anything at all :D |
| [19:22:25] | lautriv: | dekarl, myth is something i take "as is" never looked on details but i assumed the files of recordings were stored in an optimized format. |
| [19:23:00] | clever: | for digital tv, it just saves it in the exact codec that the capture card pulls off the air/cable |
| [19:23:04] | dekarl: | basically its just a dump from whatever comes down the airwaves/wire |
| [19:23:33] | dekarl: | for analog tv its whatever your hardware encoder does |
| [19:23:54] | dekarl: | e.g. the commonly used HD-PVR and non HD PVRs |
| [19:24:36] | dekarl: | I'm wondering that the original MKV didn't "just work" as my Bluray and DVD rips to mkv "just work" |
| [19:26:28] | lautriv: | dekarl, the mkv was about to play but stutters. this is actually a h/w limit because my line between back and frontends got damaged and the switch reduced to 100TX. since this line is 31 Meters i need more time to fix that. |
| [19:27:13] | dekarl: | wrt, Vox (Germany) video on demand... Google hints that they have DRM locked their streams, so any open source solution is out http://www.finnchristiansen.de/2015/07/27/now . . . hre-schauen/ |
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| [19:29:38] | dekarl1: | lautriv: huh, 100BASE-TX should be easily enough |
| [19:29:43] | lautriv: | that voxnow and others (several channels are owned by the same) are mostly free but i don't like to register everywhere just because one lost recording. |
| [19:30:56] | lautriv: | dekarl, yes it should but since i moved to 0.28/master it appears to need more bandwith. |
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| [19:36:24] | lautriv: | I'm actually compiling some stuff to run mythfrontend native on a androshit-tv-box, curious how well it will work :o) |
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| [19:57:49] | dekarl: | lautriv: you may be interested in https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/pull/94 I'd be interested in hearing how it goes (aka feedback on the pull request) |
| [19:58:20] | dekarl: | it appears to be towards tablet usage though |
| [20:00:02] | lautriv: | dekarl, i said "native" because the plan is to run real linux with a mali blob on that thingie, did bookmark that anyway for the case my plan fails. |
| [20:06:06] | stuarta: | evening all |
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| [20:10:14] | lautriv: | re stuarta |
| [20:11:34] | lautriv: | dekarl, that android vaiant able to be autostarted so it appears similar ? |
| [20:12:10] | stuarta: | i'm contemplating backporting the dbus screensaver back to 0.27 (in fact i already have, running it now and it's working fine) |
| [20:12:24] | stuarta: | and also the code for the non autoswitching dvb-t2 cards |
| [20:12:39] | stuarta: | which i will merge to master first once tested |
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| [21:32:02] | markspieth: | lautriv: I cant see why you cant autostart an android app as thats all it is |
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| [21:32:53] | markspieth: | no android tv boxes yet but if I get a quad core android TV Ill port it there and make it work with the remote too. |
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