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| [04:54:20] | hackman42: | Is the Services API fit for consumption? |
| [04:54:44] | hackman42: | Are there any 3rd party clients using it? |
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| [06:11:45] | dekarl1: | hackman42, some are here https://github.com/MythTV-Clients |
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| [06:16:48] | lautriv: | and all together in java o.O |
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| [06:47:07] | dekarl: | lautriv: there are others, too. e.g. C++ plugin for Kodi http://janbar.github.io/pvr.mythtv/manual/index.html |
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| [06:52:18] | dekarl: | btw, are we still targetting 0.27.6 in 8 days? https://code.mythtv.org/trac/roadmap We fixed the YouTube grabber, the marking of first/last recordings and recording from RTP streams with header extensions. |
| [06:55:15] | lautriv: | dekarl, many people mentioned and using kodi, no idea why. |
| [06:57:55] | dekarl: | I think because it has a lower barrier of entry? Leading to lots of "content aquisition plugins" and it runs on most devices. |
| [06:58:39] | dekarl: | And the interface shows more polish, even though I find it hard to use personally |
| [07:02:42] | lautriv: | obviously meant for people using computers without any knowledge, as worse as gnome3. |
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| [09:15:21] | stuarta: | dekarl: the date for 0.27.6 was an arbitrary stab in the dark. if it isn't right or needed to release it in 8 days, then we change the date on the milestone |
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| [09:31:42] | Roklobsta: | roll the dice i say |
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| [10:13:10] | stuarta: | hmpf. laptop crashes hard when it tries to load the firmware into this dvb-t2 stick. time to try a different system |
| [10:36:03] | Roklobotomy: | are you in contact with crope at all? |
| [10:41:31] | stuarta: | who? no. |
| [10:59:16] | stuarta: | how cruel. a non portable system doesn't crash when the firmware loads, but i've no aerial socket in the vicinity :-/ |
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| [13:10:35] | lautriv_: | stuarta, how did it crash ? |
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| [13:37:48] | stuarta: | lautriv_: hard lockup, only flashing the capslock key |
| [13:49:35] | lautriv_: | stuarta, may i assume that stick was directly plugged ? |
| [13:49:50] | stuarta: | tried several variations |
| [13:49:58] | stuarta: | different usb ports, |
| [13:50:05] | stuarta: | boot first, then plug |
| [13:50:37] | lautriv_: | but did you try a HUB with own PSU making it possible to feed more current ? |
| [13:50:56] | stuarta: | i have no such thing |
| [13:51:40] | lautriv_: | there are Y-adaptors for greedy hdd, maybe you have such one ? |
| [13:52:01] | stuarta: | hmmm, nope |
| [13:52:29] | stuarta: | i'm being impatient, wanted to try it, but haven't got the aerial splitter so it won't get signal |
| [13:53:13] | stuarta: | so i figured i could take the stick (with the laptop) to another free aerial point... |
| [13:53:21] | ** stuarta sighs ** | |
| [13:53:23] | lautriv_: | i'd suggest to retry with a powered HUB, either from friend or some store around , would be around $5 |
| [13:53:40] | stuarta: | oh it doesn't crash on another system |
| [13:53:50] | stuarta: | but i have no signal there :( |
| [13:53:57] | ** stuarta must wait for splitter ** | |
| [13:55:14] | jheizer: | always something |
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| [14:19:33] | stuarta: | hmmm, wonder if it won't crash when plugged into the dock usb ports.... |
| [14:22:43] | stuarta: | nope. time to enable kdump |
| [14:22:52] | stuarta: | see if i can get a vmcore |
| [14:37:47] | dekarl: | stuarta, yes. I was trying to say something like "we have some content that would be nice to get out to our users that depend on packagers who only update to releases, so a release next week would not be a waste of time" |
| [14:39:03] | stuarta: | dekarl: right, then we should try to do such a thing |
| [14:39:12] | dekarl: | also we should start to decide which release we want to be the default release for the upcoming Ubuntu LTS release in April 2016. fixes/0.27 or fixes/0.28 |
| [14:39:27] | stuarta: | personally i'm happy to keep 0.27.x releases flowing until 0.28 is ready |
| [14:40:23] | dekarl: | IIRC the date that got put in the 0.28 release date field was from a dice roll to find the decision point. Past that point its going to be fixes/0.27 (which is a perfectly good thing to do) |
| [14:40:43] | stuarta: | oh i know i made them up. |
| [14:41:02] | ** stuarta takes aim at the calendar with a dart.... ** | |
| [15:11:46] | lautriv_: | stuarta, how odd, that dart hit "yesterday" |
| [15:17:20] | stuarta: | :-p |
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| [20:26:04] | stuarta: | hah nice, the dvb driver smashes the kernel stack |
| [20:27:34] | stuarta: | http://fpaste.org/270729/44304004/ |
| [20:37:06] | stuarta: | time for the debug kernel |
| [20:42:37] | stuarta: | interesting, crashes but doesn't drop a vmcore |
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| [21:32:57] | stuarta: | sigh, why do you always have to jump through hoops? now it's a new version of crash that understands kernel version 4 and above |
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| [21:38:38] | enyc: | dekarl: due to the version-compatibility across diffeent sytems and use in heterogenous enviroment, my vote is to sort out the packaging so that either mythtv-0.27 and mythtv-0.28 can be installed (assuming that is 0.28 is at all conishdered 'stable' by that point...) ... its' perfectly sensible use-case to want mix of debian/ubuntu (and whatever else!) variants in use as part of same system.. |
| [21:41:27] | stuarta: | mixing distro's isn't an issue. for mythtv, there can be only one packaged version |
| [21:41:46] | stuarta: | if you use source installs, you can make them co-exist (i do this on my dev/prod box) |
| [21:41:53] | enyc: | indeede, only need one installed version at once |
| [21:42:18] | enyc: | the toruble is current packaging doesn't distinguish in pkg-name, requires swapping PPA's or whatever |
| [21:50:12] | enyc: | AIUI from a Debian Developer, it would be better for inclusion across deb/ubuntu if we could build the various 'supported stable versions' (0.25 0.26 0.27 ??) so there are actual separate mythtv-*-0.2? named packages — i.e. can seelct version just by package nome. Can still have virtual-packages for 'default version', and can still have a (combined) 'fixes' repository and 'testing version (0.28 or whatever kept in special PPA) ... just need to use the 'c |
| [21:50:44] | enyc: | apparently, this is rarely the way to do it, but for mythtv's version-must-match-across-network it makes sense |
| [21:50:46] | stuarta: | we've never really bothered with anything other than the released version and master |
| [21:51:05] | stuarta: | as that's pretty much all we support. tho people do run older versions |
| [21:51:22] | enyc: | well exactly, and want te install matching version on 'new' machines |
| [21:55:09] | ** stuarta goes to bed ** | |
| [21:55:29] | enyc: | heehe that i need to do soo too!!! |
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| [22:06:57] | dekarl: | enyc: we lack the manpower for such advanced support options |
| [22:07:57] | dekarl: | also I don't understand the problem. just pick the preferred PPA in MCC and move on. If you have to stay on fixes/0.24 then just stay on an older OS release, too |
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| [23:18:24] | enyc: | dekarl: the trouble is ... for wider includuos of package (debian) ... and installing on other systems rather than dedicted mythbuntu installs ... may have mix of OS variants... may in paritucalr want to install 'older' mythtv version on 'newer' OS release |
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| [23:59:57] | tgm4883: | enyc: I still think separate repos for the mythtv versions works best |
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