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| [08:54:00] | lautriv_: | does a frontend buffer streams somewhere on local drive or just in RAM ? |
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| [09:08:39] | stuartm: | just ram |
| [09:11:06] | lautriv_: | ok, so no bottleneck here ... |
| [09:21:24] | lautriv_: | help ! mythfrontend from version v0.28-pre-3053-g4b10c07 tells me "backend is protocol 87 but frontend wants version 87" since this is the same protocol, some comparsion fails and renders frontends from master unusual o.O |
| [09:21:48] | lautriv_: | s/unusua/unusable/ |
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| [10:18:52] | stuartm: | that was fixed last night |
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| [11:30:49] | stuartm: | does anyone need a DVB-T, DVB-S or PVR-150 card? I'm throwing out old kit ... if you want them they are yours for the cost of the postage |
| [11:31:35] | stuartm: | although I may waive even that if it's only a couple of quid |
| [11:33:40] | stuartm: | time limited offer as I really don't want them hanging around, Sunday evening they go in the bin |
| [11:34:18] | lautriv_: | stuartm, where are you from ? |
| [11:34:30] | stuartm: | UK |
| [11:35:39] | lautriv_: | so if nobody else has a more urgend need i would grab it for testing changes on master without disturbing my running system. |
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| [11:47:22] | lautriv_: | usually i do not transcode because most recordings will be deleted soon ( tv-series and such ) but i play with the idea for optimized streaming, is the transcoded result somehow simpler for the frontends when decoding ? |
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| [13:02:44] | stuartm: | it depends on the codec being used |
| [13:03:04] | stuartm: | and the encoding options |
| [13:03:43] | stuartm: | generally if the filesize goes down, while the resolution and quality remain the same then it requires more processing power to decode, not less |
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| [14:21:51] | lautriv_: | stuartm i don't really care about the file-size but assumed the more compressed may better to feed except it produces to much overhead. |
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| [14:46:38] | lautriv_: | urgh, did the latest master ( this morning ) change something about tuning ? |
| [14:47:56] | lautriv_: | just synced all nack and frontends and i get -> 2015-08–22 16:43:43.519944 E [1340/1629] TVRecEvent tv_rec.cpp:3729 (TuningFrequency) – TVRec[1]: Failed to set channel to 5. Reverting to kState_None |
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| [16:31:21] | lautriv_: | ok, did a complete retune which worked like usual but backend still complaining about "failed to set channel to <somenumber>" o.O |
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| [17:36:34] | enyc: | stuartm: if nobody else claims cards, let me know, i'd u-e them or pass on to mythtv-setup-user etc |
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| [18:07:58] | lautriv_: | what do i do with this -> "TVRecEvent diseqc.cpp:493 (Execute) – DiSEqCDevTree: No root device tree node!" background : pulled latest master, failed to tune, tried to re-tune all channels on master with success, still no lock on any frontend, removed all cards from all systems, added just card on master, still this issue. |
| [18:10:15] | lautriv_: | ... mythweb reports all tables from mythconverg ok, new tunigs got already EIT data. |
| [18:12:46] | lautriv_: | ... storage-devices on master all online and having proper permissions (mythtv:video) |
| [18:15:26] | lautriv_: | ... /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 which is the first card for now is present and accessible ( master was already searching channels from it with success ) |
| [18:26:37] | enyc: | superm1, tgm4883: hrrm.. food-for-thourght, discussions w/ debian friend seem to agree, for including different version options of mythtv *in* debian/ubuntu, would be better if we could build to mythtv-backend-0.27 mythtv-backend-0.28 etc. packages so the version is 'selectable' to be compatible with that used across network etc., not needing separate PPAs/repositories ... |
| [18:27:19] | enyc: | superm1, tgm4883: apparently we could copy/include the upstream changelog as an insttable file, the 'debian changelog' should only be for the packaging changes, essentially. |
| [18:29:06] | tgm4883: | enyc: I don't like it. Mostly because I don't like users accidentely installing trunk/master |
| [18:29:49] | enyc: | tgm4883: I'm sure theres' no perfect soltions... installing 'mythtv' or similar should install current stable somehow or another =) |
| [18:30:02] | enyc: | tgm4883: no different to selecting the wrong PPA |
| [18:30:39] | tgm4883: | enyc: except I can throw up giant warnings if they select the wrong PPA |
| [18:32:13] | enyc: | tgm4883: so... wonder if it makes sense that 'stable' mythtv versions are in main (jessie/wheezy/precise/trusty/etc), with updates in -backports, and 'master/testing' versions are only in 'unstable' / suitable PPA |
| [18:32:38] | enyc: | tgm4883: importantly there will be users who need to be able to install 'not the latest stable' for compatibiltiy with other systems/distros/versions on the network |
| [18:39:35] | tgm4883: | enyc: I'll let superm1 weigh in on this. It sounds like we're doing a lot of this because there's only a few debian repos |
| [18:40:00] | enyc: | tgm4883: yes indeed, needs considering carefully =) |
| [18:40:33] | enyc: | tgm4883: in the firist instance i need some install/update/use testing on current packaging repository, and check the 'when updated' case of the mysql-IPv6-fix |
| [18:40:42] | tgm4883: | If we do anything like that we need to make sure we set breaks/replaces carefully so multiple versions of mythtv (specifically, libmyth) aren't installed together |
| [18:40:59] | enyc: | yes indeed |
| [18:41:02] | enyc: | exactly |
| [18:41:31] | enyc: | shame mythtv is architected as the direct-database-access rather than a layer of abstraction that handles suibla forward/backward compatibility |
| [18:42:03] | enyc: | as always theres' no doubt plusses-and-minusses etc etc =) |
| [18:42:22] | tgm4883: | enyc: I've thought for a long time that mythfrontend should be 100% using the mythtv services API, but I lack the necessary C++ skills to assist in making that happen |
| [18:52:37] | enyc: | tgm4883: do other frontends like kodi do that? or do they similarly talk to database? |
| [18:53:53] | tgm4883: | enyc: kodi does both |
| [18:54:13] | tgm4883: | because not all features are available via the services api |
| [19:01:10] | enyc: | 'but kodi recognizez/supports different mythtv backend versions ? |
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| [19:55:08] | lautriv_: | anyone a light idea why i get "DiSEqCDevTree: No root device tree node!" ? |
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| [20:00:54] | superm1: | enyc: I only want stable version in Debian too. |
| [20:01:23] | superm1: | I don't think it's worth the trouble to include the unstable |
| [20:01:35] | superm1: | So much change and manual interaction to update it |
| [20:01:50] | superm1: | The only reason it makes sense for a ppa is that it can be done all automatically |
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| [20:04:53] | enyc: | superm1: nods, the problem comes in heterogenous eniverenment, what mythtv version *was* stable at the time of a particular LTS or debian release coming out... not in sync, but would ike different frontends/backends to talk together =) |
| [20:05:21] | enyc: | superm1: using only PPAs/extra-repos-in-debian is one solution to this |
| [20:08:54] | enyc: | superm1: in particular, using a debian-based backend with ubuntu/mint frontends or vice-versa ... |
| [20:15:38] | enyc: | superm1: so.... as you say without 'unstable' versions, makes sense to have mythtv-0.25 mythtv-0.27 'stable lts' variants, to go into packages that can go into next-debian next-ubuntu etc... then these can be updated (separately) by -backports/-updates repos ... and the version-for-network-level-compatibility is selected by the package chosen =) |
| [20:15:45] | enyc: | in any case next for me is testing packaging as-is! |
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| [20:36:48] | lautriv_: | ok, tomorrow again .... night dudes ;) |
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