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Friday, August 21st, 2015, 00:16 UTC
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[08:05:25] lautriv: anyone around with some knowledge of mythtvs behaviour regarding networking ?
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[08:38:36] lomion0815: Don't use Wifi when watching HD recordings! That's all you need to know ;-)
[08:41:24] lautriv: lomion0815, i don't but observed something that i wonder about. when watching a recording, i have a straight stream but when watchin live-tv the frontend sends a large anount of packages with 1448 Bytes to the master.
[08:41:48] lautriv: *amount
[08:45:04] lomion0815: Does it change after you rewind (press "left arrow" button)?
[08:45:51] lautriv: have to check that, will tell you in a few minutes
[08:52:20] lautriv: lomion0815, doesn't change that when rewinding.
[08:54:21] lautriv: wait, it's the other way ... from aster to frontend:
[08:54:25] lautriv: 10:50:39.118914 IP node001.coldplug.net.6543 > funtv2.coldplug.net.33782: Flags [.], seq 24616:26064, ack 1, win 235, options [nop,nop,TS val 42954807 ecr 4294937687], length 1448
[09:03:08] lomion0815: which branch? Master or fixes/0.27
[09:07:27] lautriv: master from around 2 weeks ago
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[09:09:29] lautriv: backend reports this -> v0.28-pre-2990-gdba6f3b
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[09:59:57] stuartm: it might be the seek table information, for recordings that is sent up front, but for livetv it's sent in batches as it becomes available
[10:09:22] stuartm: lautriv: ^^
[10:22:46] enyc: Hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm new pacakging problem? ... building from ./build-debs.sh fixes/0.27  — I get debs versioned 2:0.27.0+fixes.2015[...] Notice the .0 !
[10:23:04] enyc: this creates problems installing i.e. "mythtv-common (2:0.27.0+fixes.20150820.e2a11c9–0ubuntu1) breaks mythtv-backend (<< 2:0.27.4+fixes.20150106.40506c2–0ubuntu4) and is installed."
[10:27:30] ** enyc looking in the code etc etc... but was more wondering what was *supposed* to happen wrt version entry, if the date embedded in there really is supposed to be deb-build-date and not the last-mythtv-fixes-git-changes date, etc. **
[10:29:54] ** enyc puzzled why there is changelog supplied with lots of entries from 2013 ... if this isn't kept updated in packaging, why have just a changelog of old entries, anyway ... **
[10:36:20] lautriv: stuartm, i assumed something like that but wonder why it went that worse. afaik live is with a delay of approx 2 seconds because it's still written to hdd first.
[10:41:47] lautriv: there is also this "QObject::startTimer: Timers cannot be started from another thread" maybe it does ugly timings because of qt5 issues ?
[10:49:51] ** enyc guesses superm1 knows how this changelog inheritance etc. is *supposed* to work ?? **
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[11:58:06] warpme: paul-h: for to be 100% happy with jump mainmenu in mythmusic I'm missing problem-free jump when OSD is on screen. Namelly: when You have running mythmusic AND notification OSD on screes – jump mainmenu does nothing. May You verify this in Your setup?
[11:58:31] warpme: s/screes/screen/
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[12:56:08] superm1: enyc: it's mostly tailored for showing what had changed between builds on the ppa without any additional manual interaction
[12:56:42] superm1: If you want to see some changes to how it works we can do something different for builds not going to the ppa
[12:58:34] superm1: The version of the micro release is supposed to be automatically detected. That stuff does work for ppa as far as I know. If you face a problem we can look into it though
[13:22:55] enyc: superm1: why is there a changelog.in with 2013 changes only ??
[13:23:15] enyc: superm1: is it supposed to be copying changes list from sowhere else to then put into the debian changelog ?
[13:23:51] enyc: superm1: *where from* is the version of micro-release supposed to be taken from? i'm happy to investigate if I understand what the mechanics are intended to be
[13:24:27] enyc: superm1: it certanily isn't working to pickup micro-release properly on many different build hosts
[13:27:12] enyc: superm1: hrrm the developer-cheatsheet https://sites.google.com/a/mythbuntu.org/webs . . . t#TOC-MythTV says ""
[13:27:15] enyc: The version number that will be checked out is controlled by the latest version defined in debian/changelog .
[13:29:36] enyc: packaging/blob/master/deb/debian/changelog.in in packaging github is an included file with outdated changes listed...
[13:30:01] enyc: can it only pickup additional changes incrementally on one buildhost? can it pickup changes from a git download/import at build time?
[13:54:17] superm1: enyc: oh for autobuilds (PPA) we calculate it on an external script. that's why it's not there by hand
[13:54:27] superm1: by hand it just takes the last major and micro version from changelog.in
[13:54:29] superm1: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbu . . . e_targets.py
[13:54:33] superm1: that does the calculation
[13:54:41] superm1: i forgot how that part worked
[14:01:10] enyc: superm1: so this separate autobeilding system and its' external script does clever stuff, which isn't in the build-debs ... ?
[14:01:34] enyc: superm1: and the build-debs, picking from changelog.in , is out of date version, hence problem =)
[14:02:01] superm1: something like that :)
[14:02:07] enyc: superm1: should i just be putting in dummy extra changelog entry to bump the version, or is there a 'proper fix' to get a full changelog into packaging ?
[14:02:17] superm1: for now just make a dummy changelog entry
[14:02:28] superm1: it will take some thought how we can do this for hand runs
[14:02:40] enyc: nods
[14:02:40] enyc: ok so long as you've now *told me* this is whats going on, fine =)
[14:02:46] enyc: understood
[14:02:53] enyc: and if all distros can take it on in their own packaging or what ;p
[14:03:13] enyc: again I can ask my helpful-but-busy-contacts how they manage precisely this problem with other OSS prjects
[14:03:22] superm1: well once it's going in debian i
[14:03:29] superm1: 'd expect that the changelog got updated with what's in debian
[14:03:37] enyc: basically you'd want the changelogs going into deb/ubuntu + fedora + other formats of changelog file??
[14:04:00] superm1: we just haven't uploaded it directly into ubuntu in a while (just on PPA) so we haven't updated that file in a long time
[14:04:17] superm1: my eventual goal should be that debian's changelog is stored in changelog.in and ubuntu just syncs from debian
[14:04:18] enyc: ok so a problem to be solved another day ;p
[14:04:31] enyc: yes, they are so similar systems we should be able to support both with minimal fuss
[14:04:44] enyc: its' just at the moment there are 3 init's and subtle differences in user-logins etc... ;p
[14:05:05] superm1: yeah, but should still be able to keep same packaging
[14:05:14] superm1: deviating packaging is where it gets uglier and harder to maintain
[14:06:10] lautriv: don't forget devuan which is using openrc ;)
[14:06:18] enyc: if you get a packagie into debian-proper, will debian then do all the updated-builds / FTFBS-error-logs for you without your own buildd's ?
[14:06:24] enyc: =))
[14:08:46] superm1: yeah it would build on their infrastructure
[14:08:56] enyc: ... and go from debian to ubuntu by default
[14:09:22] tgm4883: Are you talking about his to specify what to build for?
[14:09:34] tgm4883: Or what to build
[14:09:51] enyc: ...the question then, is, how do we get it into jessie-updates trusty-updates etc... rather than having a PPA at all
[14:09:51] enyc: tgm4883: picking up the version number automatially
[14:10:09] enyc: tgm4883: currently going wrong with e.g. (2:0.27.0+fixes.20150820.e2a11c9–0ubuntu1) <-- not 0.27.5 etc...
[14:10:23] superm1: it's done by mythbuntu-weekly-build right now to put in the .5
[14:10:24] enyc: tgm4883: causes failures at install on dependencies
[14:10:30] superm1: so if you switch from PPA to that there's problems
[14:10:46] tgm4883: Ah
[14:10:49] enyc: superm1: even on manual install.. because it specifies it breaks with one of the others before 0.27.4 ;p
[14:11:28] tgm4883: Well that is just a cosmetic problem right
[14:11:43] enyc: tgm4883: no, fails install because breakage at dependencies
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[14:48:33] enyc: superm1: guessing 0.28 or something similar entry in packaging for master might help... but in any case suitable tested pull-request for fixes/0.27 now submitted =)
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[20:05:33] lautriv: hm, out of thin air my mythweb is ranting about local timezone settings, used to work before o.O
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[20:17:04] stuartm: have the stretch modes always been broken with vdpau?
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[20:22:41] stuartm: H.Stretch, V.Stretch aren't just stretching, what you get is about 20% cropped on all four sides then that is being stretched
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[21:13:47] lautriv: anyone noticed this -> libswscale/utils.o: warning: relocation in readonly section `.text.unlikely'.
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