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[07:56:30] | Roklobsta: | dekarl1: hey your recordingseek (?) optimisation works nice. very short wait times now for playing videos. |
[08:00:47] | stuarta: | morning all |
[08:05:26] | stuartm: | g'afternoon |
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[08:16:55] | Roklobsta: | good evening |
[08:19:38] | ** stuarta yawns ** | |
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[09:28:59] | paul-h: | stuarta: Is this a problem at our end or his? https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=894 |
[09:29:13] | ** stuarta looks ** | |
[09:31:31] | paul-h: | This from the linked forum thread suggests it could be a problem with his ISP http://whrl.pl/Reipnp |
[09:31:48] | stuarta: | that's odd, there's nothing on www.mythtv.org that's blocking, there was on the forum |
[09:32:00] | stuarta: | it's about as simple a site can get |
[09:33:06] | paul-h: | No idea what this TPG is do you? |
[09:33:53] | stuarta: | it's an isp in australia |
[09:37:58] | paul-h: | Ah I misread he thinks his IP is being blocked by us |
[09:38:52] | stuarta: | yes |
[09:39:08] | stuarta: | but we aren't doing any of that, and he can get to the forum which is on the same host |
[09:46:45] | stuarta: | ah looks like he got to the forum from an alternate location |
[09:54:33] | stuartm: | stuarta: denyhosts? |
[09:54:51] | stuartm: | we block by ip if repeated failed attempts to login via ssh are made |
[09:55:02] | stuarta: | stuartm: that auto clears tho |
[09:55:08] | stuartm: | and iirc we've configured it to block access to all services and not just ssh |
[09:55:14] | stuartm: | yes, it does |
[09:55:19] | stuarta: | not to mention, i didn't implement it on mizar |
[09:55:26] | stuarta: | i used fail2ban instead |
[09:55:40] | stuartm: | ah |
[09:55:58] | stuarta: | it really doesn't make any sense |
[09:56:00] | stuartm: | still, let's check the shorewall dynamic rules |
[09:56:22] | stuarta: | the only thing i can think of is some oddity with SSL, so i've asked the to check lists.mythtv.org which is non ssl |
[09:57:36] | stuartm: | there are about 10 IPs in that list atm |
[09:57:52] | stuarta: | hmmm, that's a wide block |
[09:58:25] | stuarta: | okay, why the hell is mizar dropping everything from 115.0.0.0/8 |
[09:58:32] | stuartm: | yup, iirc range blocks added back when we were getting a lot of hack attempts |
[09:58:43] | stuartm: | stuarta: chinese bot-net range |
[09:59:11] | stuarta: | Can't hit www.mythtv.org from my TPG connection, IP "115.64.x.x" |
[09:59:16] | stuartm: | well, between 114–118, pretty much the whole of the chinese great firewall |
[09:59:24] | stuartm: | ouch |
[09:59:49] | stuarta: | 115.64.0.0 – 115.64.255.255 = TPG |
[10:01:06] | stuarta: | dunno if that was put there manually or if it was dynamically added |
[10:01:26] | stuartm: | yeah, that's my fault, got caught up in the sweep – should have removed those blocks after a few days too, at the time we were getting pounded from ips in that range originating in china, bad research indicated the whole range was chinese owned |
[10:06:58] | stuarta: | grrr, damn firewalls |
[10:10:20] | paul-h: | Thanks for sorting that out just needed a little team work :) |
[10:10:55] | stuartm: | stuarta: nah, firewall isn't to blame, I am |
[10:11:14] | stuarta: | stuartm: in this case i was cursing the work firewall, killing my ssh connections after 5 secons |
[10:11:21] | stuarta: | fecking annoying |
[10:11:27] | stuartm: | heh |
[10:11:53] | paul-h: | gigem: Any input on this one? https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=585 |
[10:12:09] | stuarta: | what i don't get tho, is these users have been having issues since 30th Apr, but the box has only been up for 9 days, so the dynamic part of the firewall would have been cleared |
[10:13:03] | stuartm: | dynamic rules are persistent if shorewall is configured appropriately |
[10:13:08] | ** stuarta scratches head ** | |
[10:15:01] | stuartm: | paul-h: I'll defer to gigem on that one, I can't double check what the filters are and that they still work until I'm back home |
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[10:30:05] | stuarta: | paul-h: i'm really surprised none of those users popped in to irc to try to talk to us |
[10:35:15] | Roklobsta: | it seems this web server takes up a lot of time |
[10:35:36] | stuarta: | Roklobsta: which one? |
[10:35:52] | Roklobsta: | i mean mythtv.org you guys are always mucking with it |
[10:36:10] | stuarta: | i'm slowly migrating stuff off a dying host onto a new one |
[10:36:29] | stuarta: | but it's like untangling a ball of sticky tape |
[10:36:51] | Roklobsta: | i can only imagine. |
[10:36:59] | stuarta: | too much unpackaged stuff |
[10:37:04] | Roklobsta: | ugh |
[10:37:14] | stuarta: | which is being packaged on migration |
[10:37:21] | Roklobsta: | i have come to love packages over the years |
[10:37:27] | stuarta: | i insist upon them |
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[11:33:10] | paul-h: | stuartm: We really need some proper documentation for the scheduler options detailing exactly what they do and what information is required in the guide data for them to work as intended etc |
[11:37:16] | sphery: | paul-h: Is he saying that he can only apply the weekly filter if he does a timeslot recording rule? TTBOMK, he should be able to do an any time rule and apply it. |
[11:38:50] | sphery: | (And in the linked -users list post, that was the problem--the user was setting up a timeslot rule and applying a weekly filter rather than setting up an any time rule with the weekly filter. But he never replied back that he wasn't able to apply the filter on an any time rule...) |
[11:39:57] | stuarta: | sphery: as i understand it, he's saying that his guide data is sufficiently rubbish, that all the different showings would all appear as different items to record to the schedule |
[11:40:02] | stuarta: | scheduler |
[11:40:22] | stuarta: | i get that a bit with EIT data |
[11:40:40] | sphery: | meaning different titles for them? |
[11:41:27] | stuarta: | that's about the only bit that they sometime get right, all the rest, subtitle, desecription can all vary depending on which monkey was typing in the data |
[11:42:51] | sphery: | if they have the same title, a weekly filter should work to limit to one recording per week, and an any time/any channel rule with the weekly filter should allow that |
[11:44:51] | sphery: | I am having trouble parsing the requst, though |
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[11:45:28] | sphery: | his statement, "The honoured devs invented filters, but they give you a predefined time slot on a predefined channel." makes it sound like he's saying he can't use any time rules |
[11:46:51] | sphery: | but "I want to klick on the title in the epg, select the show, select 'record one show per week' and mythtv does the magic of finding a dynamic gliding window that suits current and future record plans for other shows" makes it sound like he wants mythtv to change the "week start" time automatically (automagically? not sure how MythTV would know when to change it, let alone what new time to use) |
[11:48:15] | sphery: | I could see adding actual controls for the week start time, rather than clamping them to the start time of the episode used to make the recording rule, and that might actually satisfy the user if he just wants it to be changeable |
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[12:29:15] | stuartm: | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/17/bezos . . . edia_player/ |
[12:29:57] | stuartm: | the register's tabloid style headlines and articles are getting a bit old, but the article is still worth noting |
[12:32:46] | stuarta: | good thing we don't distribute an app or have an easy plugin system for 3rd party apps to use |
[12:46:29] | paul-h: | HaHa It would be a good excuse to block all Kodi users from using the MythTV as a pvr backend :) |
[12:47:28] | stuarta: | i'd rather encourage them, we need to get some users from somewhere.... |
[12:49:08] | paul-h: | They are just leaches though who contribute nothing |
[12:54:09] | stuarta: | well that does describe most of their users |
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[13:27:22] | stuarta: | stuartm: https://letsencrypt.org//2015/06/16/lets-encr . . . chedule.html |
[13:31:15] | paul-h: | OT what is the catch with this free upgrade to Win10 Microsoft are offering |
[13:34:00] | paul-h: | At work we have a Win7 systems that has started to prompt to upgrade for free to Win10 when it's available |
[13:37:39] | stuarta: | maybe they are trying to push people to upgrade, iirc, there was a massive reluctance to install newer windows versions in recent times |
[13:44:10] | paul-h: | Seems the catch is Microsoft can then control what upgrades you get so they could in theory push add ware updates and you as a user couldn't stop them |
[13:45:03] | paul-h: | At the moment with Win7 at least you can choose what updates to receive |
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[14:31:31] | gigem: | paul-h: He's looking for the 'find weekly' rule type which is now only available to custom rules. He should find the first showing of the 'week' in the EPG and choose 'custom edit' from the menu. |
[14:33:45] | gigem: | sphery: I think mythweb allows the find time and day to be set. It's one of those things that has never been important enough to add to the frontend. |
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[15:20:23] | stuarta: | hrm, i think i need to solarize the irclog colours |
[15:20:33] | stuarta: | the defaults are damn hard to read |
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[16:46:25] | paul-h: | gigem: OK thanks – I can't help thinking that should be an option in the normal scheduler? |
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[19:00:19] | gigem: | paul-h: It's a schedule editor issue not a scheduler one. As I said, it's never been important enough for the few times it's mattered, especially when there have been reasonable work-arounds. |
[19:13:16] | paul-h: | gigem: Yeah I understand that but if 3 different devs are asking how to do something as fundamental as a weekly recording then there is some room for improvement even if it's only better documentation like examples of how to do common tasks |
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[22:01:53] | dekarl: | Roklobsta: thanks for testing :) |
[22:31:03] | Roklobsta: | no worries. it was getting annoying |
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