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| [03:47:09] | totesmuhgoats: | hey guys |
| [03:48:16] | totesmuhgoats: | so i've decided it would be best to add a dedicated disk for mythtv, but my mythtv backend is running on a pc that has no more room in the case or power supply connectors available. I have an external usb 3.0 self powered disk that I am thinking about using |
| [03:48:37] | totesmuhgoats: | do you think the disk will be fast enough for myth backend, or do i need to have an internal disk? |
| [03:48:57] | totesmuhgoats: | under a load it would probably need to record 3 things at a time |
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| [04:16:37] | pitz: | could you use eSATA instead? |
| [04:17:11] | pitz: | USB isn't really a very optimal solution, especially for multiple read/write streams |
| [04:18:31] | totesmuhgoats: | not with this particular disk |
| [04:18:53] | totesmuhgoats: | i might be able to buy a disk, but whatever i do will probably be exernal at this point |
| [04:19:33] | totesmuhgoats: | i might be able to mount a 2.5" disk on the back plane of the case... i have a sata connector for it, but power is another matter |
| [04:20:58] | pitz: | well eSATA is external. you can get an expansion card bracket which will go from the spare SATA port you have, to a header on the back of your case in an expansion card slot |
| [04:21:07] | pitz: | and then you hoook an eSATA enclosure up to it |
| [04:22:30] | totesmuhgoats: | hmm |
| [04:22:46] | totesmuhgoats: | looking at some other people's benchmarks it looks like in my case the performance limiting factor might be the disk itself |
| [04:23:06] | totesmuhgoats: | i get around 30 – 40 MB/s transfers, but i guess you can get higher than that over usb 3.0 |
| [04:23:10] | totesmuhgoats: | it is a portable disk |
| [04:24:03] | totesmuhgoats: | oh, sorry guys, i just saw the topic now, i will take this to #mythtv-users |
| [04:24:50] | totesmuhgoats: | at any rate, once i've transferred some files and made space i will perform some tests and report the results in the other channel |
| [04:24:57] | totesmuhgoats: | in case anyone else finds themselves in my predicament |
| [04:24:59] | totesmuhgoats: | :) |
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| [07:26:18] | deet: | i get error 2032 from jwplayer when trying to play a recording in 0.28 webfrontend. how can i fix this? |
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| [08:07:15] | dekarl: | deet: what does your backend logfile say at the time of the error. for me its "mythbackend[23777]: I HttpServer79 httprequest.cpp:365 (SendResponse) HTTPRequest::SendResponse(xml/html) () :404 Not Found -> 192.168.66.30: 2" |
| [08:08:28] | dekarl: | you may have to enable logging for "upnp,http" |
| [08:10:27] | dekarl: | I'm on MythTV Version : v0.28-pre-2883-gf6e16b9 (from mythutil --version) |
| [08:22:40] | dekarl: | request was for: mythbackend[23777]: I HttpServer118 httprequest.cpp:1686 (ExtractMethodFromURL) ExtractMethod FromURL(end) : 63138_20150601120500.ts.640x360_600kV_64kA.m3u8 : /StorageGroup/Streaming |
| [08:23:12] | stuarta: | hmm, i find it hard to believe that chrome doesn't support "adaptive streaming with html5 video".... |
| [08:23:32] | stuarta: | and the install jwplayer link doesn't work |
| [08:26:14] | stuarta: | seems like we have some work todo here. from the chrome devtools "Synchronous XMLHttpRequest on the main thread is depreciated because of it's detrimental effects to the end user's experience. For more help, check http://xhr.spec.whatwg.org/ |
| [08:29:15] | stuarta: | and as it's called from jquery-2.0.3 we may need a new jquery lib |
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| [08:30:00] | dekarl: | hmm, 63138_20150601120500.ts.640x360_600kV_64kA.m3u8 doesn't really look like a method |
| [08:33:04] | deet: | dekarl: --loglevel upn,http right? |
| [08:33:31] | dekarl: | --verbose upnp,http |
| [08:33:31] | dekarl: | maybe some more |
| [08:34:31] | deet: | why upnp? |
| [08:35:05] | dekarl: | because our backend HTTP server ans UPNP serving are tighly integrated (much of our UPNP runs over HTTP) |
| [08:35:49] | dekarl: | I'm not sure everything has been shuffled around when refactoring |
| [08:36:01] | deet: | I HTTPRequest::FormatFileResponse('') – cannot find file |
| [08:36:07] | deet: | is that the issue? |
| [08:36:53] | dekarl: | i just tried, now that mythtranscode finished and don't get the error anymore |
| [08:37:08] | deet: | I HTTPRequest::SendResponse(xml/html) () :404 Not Found -> ::1: 2 |
| [08:37:14] | dekarl: | yes, around there +/- some lines in the log |
| [08:37:47] | deet: | so i have to transcode files before streaming? |
| [08:40:52] | stuarta: | so much work todo to make it all work |
| [08:40:58] | dekarl: | it is done automatically |
| [08:41:22] | dekarl: | audio worked with garbled picture. so its better then a 404 at least :/ |
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| [08:43:24] | deet: | maybe drop the jwplayer and use on-the-fly transcoding html5 player? |
| [08:43:41] | stuarta: | that's a goal |
| [08:44:00] | deet: | but with seeking please :) |
| [08:44:03] | stuarta: | i think we started with jwplayer before html5 started being properly supported |
| [08:44:03] | dekarl: | that is on "the list" already :) |
| [08:44:20] | stuarta: | no no, it's on "THE LIST" ;-) |
| [08:44:51] | dekarl: | THE LIST[tm] |
| [08:45:12] | stuarta: | ... |
| [08:47:18] | deet: | do you know if there is there hw accelerated video encode on linux? cpu usage when encoding is quite high otherwise :/ |
| [08:48:04] | dekarl: | i hear hardware encoded video is... not so good quality wise. |
| [08:48:09] | stuarta: | deet: it's exposed via vdpau and vaapi iirc |
| [08:48:42] | dekarl: | There are examples of using the raspberry GPU for hardware transcode, which is quite cool. |
| [08:48:43] | deet: | stuarta: is there some app to take use of it? ffmpeg etc? |
| [08:49:23] | dekarl: | I think this is on the list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Adaptive . . . ng_over_HTTP but when I look at "Clients and libraries" its mostly "VLC and some experimental stuff" :( |
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| [09:09:14] | dekarl: | deet, have you seen this already? https://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/WebFrontendWishlist |
| [09:10:20] | stuarta: | todo is longer than complete :( |
| [09:11:18] | dekarl: | one small thing to start hacking the web frontend, if you got Apple mobile device around, could be fixing the hiding menu bar (it doesn't hide). |
| [09:15:32] | stuarta: | lemme try the chrome mobile emulation |
| [09:19:08] | stuarta: | doesn't seem to hide on (emulated) phones at all, not to mention it doesn't auto expose either |
| [09:22:49] | stuarta: | hmm, my dev backend is getting stuck on shutdown, need to debug that |
| [09:26:13] | deet: | i think when adding onthefly transcoding hardware encode is a must. too much strain on the cpu otherwise. |
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| [09:26:51] | stuarta: | deet: yep, the only way it might work, is for a low res target |
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| [09:35:26] | dekarl: | A first step towards that could be using a trick like our lossless transcode. If you got a H.264/AAC recording, just hack it into pieces, maybe re-encoding around the segment start/end. Once that works add different (hardware) encoding profiles |
| [09:35:39] | ** stuarta buys book on javascript ** | |
| [09:38:17] | Roklobsta: | stuarta: you have gone to the dark side.... |
| [09:38:29] | stuarta: | i know. next i'll be doing ruby |
| [09:38:37] | Roklobsta: | with rails. |
| [09:38:48] | ** stuarta ignores the web page with the basic online course.... ** | |
| [09:39:17] | stuarta: | the list of things i have to learn is ridiculous |
| [09:39:37] | Roklobsta: | you'll get stuck in a horrible Javascript Framework de Jour kind of hell. |
| [09:40:19] | Roklobsta: | is the plan to redo myth backend in a browser? |
| [09:40:50] | stuarta: | mythweb + myth-setup via a backend webserver |
| [09:45:08] | Roklobsta: | nice. |
| [09:45:23] | Roklobsta: | i really like ye olde Perle mythweb. |
| [09:45:43] | stuarta: | i use it regularly too, so functional equivalence is a must |
| [09:46:16] | Roklobsta: | a few extra things like check boxes to allow bulk deletion of anything thats in a list. |
| [09:46:32] | Roklobsta: | would be really nice. |
| [09:47:25] | Roklobsta: | the current selectthing->delete->apply cycle is tedious |
| [09:48:54] | deet: | has anyone managed to get gst-omx working? i can compile+install it but it doesn't show up in gst-inspect-1.0 |
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| [10:26:18] | dekarl: | shipit! (refering to 0.28) |
| [10:28:46] | stuarta: | shipit! (refering to 0.27.5)! |
| [11:12:40] | deet: | dekarl: joking? |
| [11:32:28] | dekarl: | stuarta, that, too |
| [11:33:33] | dekarl: | deet, thats a tough question. It contains lots of fixes that are not trivial to backport (at least you got to invest the time to analyze and test) and has been stable for me and others for some time |
| [11:34:27] | dekarl: | As most devs have little hacking time due to real life (changes to job / family situation mostly) the envisioned changes are not going to land soon |
| [11:34:52] | dekarl: | So it is tempting to get something out the door so many can have the improvements. |
| [11:36:09] | dekarl: | on the other hand its missing lots of polishing and there are some things (config rewrite) that are being actively worked on, that might be nice to get in first. |
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| [11:37:05] | dekarl: | And it will likely break UPNP for many users (due to non-compliance of many other implementations that we need to work around or get fixed there) |
| [11:38:15] | dekarl: | tl;dr: It sucks to invest the little time I got for MythTV into looking at issues that got fixed a year ago already :( |
| [11:41:37] | deet: | dekarl: hum ok makes sense to ship it then, as long as mythweb still works? |
| [11:42:58] | deet: | maybe ship it, but disable (parts of) the webfrontend |
| [11:47:50] | deet: | btw, i managed to get omx to show up in gst-inspect, but encoding doesn't work. probably because bellagio lacks ffmpeg(h264/mpeg4) |
| [11:48:03] | stuarta: | dekarl: tbh, i'd rather keep shipping 0.27.x while we finish up 0.28 |
| [11:48:23] | stuarta: | make 0.27 rock solid |
| [11:52:06] | deet: | sounds better, i wouldn't want a half-finished .28. 0.27 is pretty stable for me though :) |
| [11:53:57] | deet: | found some comparison between software decode/encode on a i5 3330 and hardware de/encode a radeon card. radeon card is almost twice as fast, and of course low cpu usage |
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| [11:54:32] | deet: | (1080p video) |
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| [12:10:42] | dekarl: | that ship it was more of a wish then of a real option. "the next version" is never really finished ;) |
| [12:10:50] | stuarta: | haha |
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| [21:51:08] | slim-1: | Can anyone help me with why after upgrading from .23 to .25 version video playback displays "Please |
| [21:51:13] | slim-1: | wait" |
| [21:51:37] | slim-1: | just does it for a seceond |
| [21:51:59] | slim-1: | does't leave playback |
| [21:54:35] | slim-1: | #leave |
| [21:56:38] | slim-1 (slim-1!~kvirc@c-98-239-96-137.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: KVIrc KVIrc Equilibrium 4.1.3, revision: 5988, sources date: 20110830, built on: 2011-12-05 12:43:31 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/) | |
| [22:00:47] | arescorpio (arescorpio!~arescorpi@177-36-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) has joined #mythtv | |
| [22:08:19] | Tobbe5178 (Tobbe5178!~asdf@2001:2002:51e1:d8ee:1059:be75:4822:b6d3) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | |
| [22:08:56] | superm1 (superm1!uid4318@ubuntu/member/superm1) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | |
| [22:47:13] | superm1 (superm1!uid4318@ubuntu/member/superm1) has joined #mythtv | |
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