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Wednesday, May 20th, 2015, 00:14 UTC
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[08:39:19] stuarta: morning all
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[14:23:36] usr13: Seems as if the "Commercial Free" option kills timer, (will not record if I choose "commercial free"). Is this a known problem or do I just have a configuration error?
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[14:34:10] dekarl: "commercial free" as in the recording rule filter flag? fo you have channels marked as "commercial free", too?
[14:36:39] dekarl: And what does "will not record" mean? Does the scheduler plan not to record? Or does it plan but the recorder does not actually record?
[14:39:20] usr13: dekarl: Just doesn't record, (even though I create the schedule).
[14:40:20] usr13: Another issue is that I have Kodi (from Raspberry-PI) connected and the guide entries are duplicated, (two of each channel show in the list).
[14:40:21] dekarl: did it work earlier?
[14:41:42] usr13: Yes, it did.
[14:42:35] usr13: mythtv-1:0.27.4–4
[14:42:36] dekarl: what have you done since it worked last? maybe performed a channel scan, or changed the configuration?
[14:43:25] dekarl: the duplicate channel issue hints to some changes in the backjend config
[14:44:18] dekarl: but thats more for #mythtv-users or #kodi-pvr (or whatever its called ;)
[14:44:36] usr13: Yes, I did preform channel scan, but guide shows normally on mythtv's own interface, (no duplicates), so that could be a separate issue, and an issue with kodi – but... a coincidence).
[14:45:17] dekarl: can you check if the channel scan has reset the "commercial free" flag on the channels?
[14:45:49] usr13: I only thought it might be a clue but could be unrelated anomaly.
[14:46:47] usr13: I don't thing I set a "commercial free" flag on any channel, but will check and see, (don't really know where that option is, but will see if I can find it.
[14:47:10] dekarl: it hints that you might have multiple video sources, when you could use just one.
[14:48:50] usr13: Am I correct in assuming the "commercial free" flag on particular channels would be found in mythtv-setup?
[14:49:37] usr13: Tuner is HDHomerun Dual
[14:50:08] dekarl: yes, it should be in the channel editor.
[14:50:48] dekarl: For a HDHR dual you have two recorders that are both connected to the same video source and no left over (orphaned) video source, correct?
[14:51:59] dekarl: But to be honest, I always just use mythweb to mass-flag channels :)
[14:53:40] usr13: I too am using mythweb, but have not found mass-flag.
[14:54:55] dekarl: its settings->TV->Channel Info. There is a big table with all channels and the commfree flag third from the right.
[14:54:58] usr13: But... I'm now looking at the Channel editor and see that there are, in fact, duplicate entries for each channel, (Source-0 and Source-1) (one entry for Source-0 and another for Sorce-1 for each channel).
[14:56:33] dekarl: ok, then you see two issues. a) the misconfiguration (one video source is enough) can be easily fixed and b) kodi doesn't properly (aka the same way as the frontend does it) fold multiple instances of the same channel into one entry
[14:57:21] usr13: So how do I fix?
[14:57:24] dekarl: just delete the video source that is not being referenced by your recording rules (I'm not sure there is an easy way to find that out though)
[14:58:13] dekarl: if you don't use the "this channel" filter, then just delete any one of the sources and connect both recorders to the same source (maybe one is orphaned already, then delete that source)
[14:58:40] usr13: If I blow away recording rules, no-problem, just want to fix it right, (still in experimental stages here).
[14:59:19] usr13: I'll bet that one is "orphaned" already.
[14:59:31] usr13: But I don't really konw....
[15:00:14] usr13: So, how would I connect both recorders to the same source?
[15:01:33] usr13: I'm looking at the Channel Editor, and if I click on any one channel, I see "Commercial Detection Method: Use global Setting"
[15:01:48] usr13: Now sure if that is relevant but...
[15:02:52] usr13: So, I should go to Video Sources and delete on?
[15:04:14] dekarl: you should see that in mytht-setups recorder view
[15:04:35] dekarl: something like "recorder1 -> video soucre a"
[15:06:05] usr13: I'm in Video Sources and I don't see an option to delete one Source, only thing I can think if is to "Delete all video sources" and then re-create only one.
[15:06:36] dekarl: or its a separate view "input connections" where you map devices to sources
[15:06:51] dekarl: just hit D
[15:07:05] usr13: Ok "Input connections"
[15:07:29] usr13: So delete on of those?
[15:08:33] usr13: Or change so that they both use same Source?
[15:08:51] dekarl: change them to one source
[15:08:59] dekarl: then delete the other source
[15:09:09] usr13: Have them both set on Source-0 (rather than one on Source-0 and other on Source-1)?
[15:09:10] dekarl: then mark the commfree channels
[15:09:49] dekarl: correct, both tuners of the HDHR can receive an identical set of channels
[15:11:05] usr13: So delete the second source? (Source-1)?
[15:11:59] sphery: usr13: I answered you in #mythtv-users
[15:12:29] usr13: Ok sphery
[15:15:20] sphery: answered the question about commercial free, that is (basically, you're creating an invalid rule, as de karl implied above, that says to record from a commercial free channel when you don't have one)
[15:16:45] usr13: I see.
[15:18:38] dekarl: usr13: gtg kids are back, continuing over in #mythtv-users sounds like a good plan
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