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| [06:11:41] | maarhart: | mythtv shows that the time is 9:11 AM, but my next scheduled recording is at 6:20 IP |
| [06:12:07] | maarhart: | IP seems to be PM and AP seems to be AM. Why is it like this and how can I change it? |
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| [09:52:35] | JohnBergqvist: | Does mythtv 0.27-fixes support the "16APSK" mode for satellite tuning? |
| [09:53:28] | JohnBergqvist: | I have a card which supposedly supports it but the only options i'm getting for modulation within mythtv are: "QAM 16", "QPSK", and "8PSK" |
| [09:58:02] | stuartm: | JohnBergqvist: from memory that's not one of the frequencies we list for DVB-S(2) – from our end it's simply a matter of adding it to a list, but the driver must support it |
| [09:58:15] | JohnBergqvist: | ok cheers |
| [09:58:22] | JohnBergqvist: | would explain why Myth isn't picking it up |
| [09:58:22] | stuartm: | s/frequencies/modulations/ |
| [09:59:01] | JohnBergqvist: | if i manually added the row in the in the channel's table and changed the modulation there, would it tune? |
| [09:59:27] | stuartm: | no, needs adding to the code as well |
| [10:00:03] | JohnBergqvist: | ahh darn |
| [10:00:23] | JohnBergqvist: | BBC have a feed with that modulation going on 28.2E |
| [10:01:05] | stuartm: | actually, it's worth a try, I may be wrong about that – seems we at least list it internally as a valid modulation just not as one which is in use for DVB-S |
| [10:01:38] | JohnBergqvist: | ok |
| [10:02:04] | JohnBergqvist: | although wait it wont work as the info i have is for the mux, not the channel |
| [10:02:13] | JohnBergqvist: | wait |
| [10:02:14] | JohnBergqvist: | ignore me |
| [10:02:15] | JohnBergqvist: | argh |
| [10:02:25] | JohnBergqvist: | http://www.satelliweb.com/index.php?section=a . . . ype=Newsfeed basically i'm trying to tune to the 3rd feed here |
| [10:03:44] | JohnBergqvist: | im using scan-s2 at the moment |
| [10:05:23] | stuartm: | considering it's not a channel meant to be tuned in-home, it's possible that the SDT won't list the PIDs |
| [10:06:32] | JohnBergqvist: | yeah |
| [10:06:41] | JohnBergqvist: | hmm |
| [10:06:54] | JohnBergqvist: | i can't even get it to tune wth scan-s2 |
| [10:07:08] | JohnBergqvist: | "S2 12693000 V 6960000 2/3 35 16APSK |
| [10:07:08] | JohnBergqvist: | " that's my conf file |
| [10:08:16] | stuartm: | polarity is wrong, that page says horizontal |
| [10:08:39] | JohnBergqvist: | ooh thanks, my bad |
| [10:08:41] | JohnBergqvist: | Still failed though -_- |
| [10:09:37] | stuartm: | interesting symbol rate too |
| [10:10:01] | JohnBergqvist: | apparently thats cos it's only a single channel |
| [10:10:04] | JohnBergqvist: | according to that website |
| [10:10:25] | JohnBergqvist: | "The majority of the feeds are transmitted SCPC (Single Channel Per Carrier), which corresponds to SR often below 10,000, while the television channels are mostly transmitted in multiplex, and thus MCPC (Multi Channel Per Carrier ). In this case the SR is usually greater than 20,000, and most frequently equal to 27500." |
| [10:12:37] | stuartm: | try "69600000" |
| [10:13:56] | stuartm: | err, nm |
| [10:14:16] | stuartm: | wouldn't make sense as you note for it to be higher than normal instead of lower |
| [10:14:56] | JohnBergqvist: | hmm, it did change though when i tried that |
| [10:14:59] | JohnBergqvist: | now I get: >>> tune to: 12693:hC23M6O35S1:S0.0W:69600: |
| [10:15:00] | JohnBergqvist: | DVB-S IF freq is 2093000 |
| [10:15:00] | JohnBergqvist: | FE_SET_PROPERTY TUNE failed: Invalid argument |
| [10:15:35] | JohnBergqvist: | before it was just "tuning failed" |
| [10:17:14] | Roklobsta: | is it just me or does 'ESC' not work in MFE any more? |
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| [10:18:00] | stuartm: | Roklobsta: master? |
| [10:18:58] | stuartm: | There's a bug involving the notification stuff, which needs fixing – #12387 |
| [10:18:58] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12387 ** | |
| [10:20:26] | Roklobsta: | ok |
| [10:20:49] | Roklobsta: | even VNCing in just now EAC doesn't work |
| [10:20:52] | Roklobsta: | ESC |
| [10:22:00] | Roklobsta: | ok got it. restarting MFE now |
| [10:23:36] | Roklobsta: | thanks for the promptness |
| [10:32:41] | JohnBergqvist: | hmmm |
| [10:32:43] | JohnBergqvist: | this is weird |
| [10:35:04] | stuartm: | JohnBergqvist: the invalid argument is probably because 69 Million Symbols per second is out of the allowed range |
| [10:35:33] | JohnBergqvist: | that is the correct symbol rate though? is there anyway to tell scan-s2 to ignore the allowed range? |
| [10:36:07] | JohnBergqvist: | wait, sorry |
| [10:36:12] | stuartm: | no, the original 6.9 Million that you tried is more reasonable |
| [10:36:13] | JohnBergqvist: | yeah |
| [10:36:30] | JohnBergqvist: | i meant it's weird that it wasn't tuning |
| [10:36:48] | JohnBergqvist: | when I tried it in mythtv, it would show a signal, but it wouldn't lock (presumably cos 16APSK isn't supported yet) |
| [10:37:55] | stuartm: | it's probably part time, and there may not even be anything there at present |
| [10:38:13] | JohnBergqvist: | darn |
| [10:38:14] | JohnBergqvist: | ah well |
| [10:42:36] | stuartm: | I can't remember if scan-* will try to auto-detect values if you omit them, but you could try just giving it the frequency and see whether it can find anything at all |
| [10:45:27] | JohnBergqvist: | I tried that even with muxes I *know* are there. It still requires me to hard-code the values |
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| [12:13:39] | warpme: | stichnot: FYI: recently I started to have issue with MicroDVD subtiles. Namelly: any seek during playback turns-off subtitles. Some investigation shows it is side effect of https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/ac3a9 . . . c87071c69d7e Reverting it fixes MicroDVD subtitles issue for me. Interesting is that issue is noly for MicroDVD format. Other formaths seems to be OK... |
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| [13:10:35] | stichnot: | warpme: not sure I've ever encountered MicroDVD subtitles. Is this an external .sub file, like .srt files? |
| [13:18:34] | stichnot: | stuartm: glad I wasn't crazy about my remote control's ESC keypresses being sometimes swallowed during playback |
| [13:22:05] | stichnot: | I had something similar happen – Adjust Subtitle Delay and then neither SELECT nor ESC would clear the dialog, the difference being that SELECT was also being swallowed in that context. Presumably this would have been the same for Adjust Audio Delay and Timestretch as well |
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| [13:32:24] | maarhart: | sorry, I asked this but went online... I don't know why my recordings are scheduled, for example, for 6:20 IP. |
| [13:32:29] | maarhart: | instead of AM/PM |
| [13:32:47] | maarhart: | this is AP./IP. |
| [13:33:50] | maarhart: | any tips on how to solve this? the current time given says PM, but the program guide shows this IP. thing |
| [13:34:40] | stuartm: | maarhart: sounds like a translation issue, check the preferred date/time formats in the settings |
| [13:37:15] | warpme: | stichnot: yes. it is external file very similiar to .srt files. Format is like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroDVD |
| [13:37:20] | maarhart: | stuartm: which settings? backend or frontend? |
| [13:38:06] | stuartm: | Frontend > Appearance |
| [13:38:33] | stichnot: | warpme: Yeah, I see we have support in xine_demux_sputext.cpp |
| [13:39:51] | stichnot: | Myth uses this xine code to parse a variety of external text subtitle formats into a list of subtitle lines and timestamps |
| [13:41:10] | stichnot: | so I'm guessing the key difference is whether timestamps are given in terms of frame number or elapsed time |
| [13:42:37] | maarhart: | okay stuartm looking at that, thanks |
| [13:46:58] | stichnot: | warpme: I'll try downloading some random .sub file and see if I can repro |
| [13:47:44] | maarhart: | stuartm: thanks, you solved my issue :L |
| [13:47:46] | maarhart: | :) |
| [13:48:30] | maarhart: | however, my program guide (based only on EIT) is half Finnish, half Swedish. Is there any way you just see Finnish? |
| [13:52:03] | stuartm: | dekarl: ^^ |
| [13:56:14] | maarhart: | is there? |
| [14:00:41] | stuartm: | not presently that I'm aware of, depending on how it was implemented in the EIT it might be possible to filter in future |
| [15:17:27] | stichnot: | warpme: I finally reproduced the subtitle problem. I have "Always display closed captioning or subtitles" set and everything seemed to work for me. It seems that with .sub or .srt captions, seeking resets the caption state to the "Always display..." state. |
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| [16:59:56] | warpme: | stichnot: unfortunatelly https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/0bd79 . . . 7dc6b27ad05f is NOT fixing subtitles issue for me |
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| [17:06:24] | stichnot: | warpme: you mean it's not fixing the bad artifacts of black background behind subtitles? |
| [17:09:32] | stichnot: | because unfortunately, if your theme provides its own black background definition in its osd_subtitle.xml, the xml file needs to have a change similar to https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/eda5d . . . b177865763f2 |
| [17:10:53] | stichnot: | I want to send a message about this to the theming list, but it would help to know if that change is backward-compatible with 0.27 / Qt4 and that's somewhat hard/inconvenient for me to check. |
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| [17:38:18] | warpme: | stichnot: currnty any seek during playback video file with MicroDV subs turns-off subtitles. User has go to menu and enable subs. After enabling all works OK. |
| [17:45:18] | stichnot: | warpme: interesting, I have subs enabled by default and they get forced on (regardless of previous state) after a seek. If I change them to be disabled by default, they get forced off after a seek. |
| [17:45:49] | stichnot: | and I see in the code why this is happening, and also why it doesn't happen with cc608/cc708 subs |
| [17:46:28] | stichnot: | also it doesn't matter (for me) whether it's .sub or .srt format |
| [17:53:00] | warpme: | stichnot: movie with MicroDVD I'm using for testing don't have embeeded subs. I have subs for it only in external file. In such case there is not 'forced subtitles' menu entry. I have only 'subs from extyernal file'. And issue with missing suba I have only for MicroDVD format. Others seems to be working as expected. (not tested many – maybe 2 or 3...) |
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| [19:04:58] | stuarta: | evening all |
| [19:19:48] | stichnot: | warpme: Please let me know whether my latest commit to master fixes the subtitle disabling problem you are seeing. |
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| [20:11:53] | dekarl: | maarhart: what did you set your EIT/Guide language preference to? (settings value ISO639Language0, ISO639Language1). If you select finnish with a fall back to swedish, then you should see only finnish. For channels that do provide finnish guide data. (we just show what we get) https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Detai . . . Localization |
| [20:17:19] | dekarl: | There appears to be not locale file for finnish, might add one with fallback to english (based on the norwegian locale) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/tree/master/mythtv/locales |
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| [20:33:14] | warpme: | stichnot: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/26f64 . . . 49c0d5d9a4bc solves sub issue. thx! |
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| [21:00:26] | stichnot: | warpme: Great, thanks for checking, and I'm glad we were actually talking about the same thing :) |
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