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| [07:24:05] | stuarta: | morning all |
| [07:27:23] | stuartm: | g'morning |
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| [09:14:12] | MythBuild: | build #1 of master-f22–64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . bit/builds/1 |
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| [09:48:52] | MythBuild: | build #2387 of master-ubuntu-current-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/2387 |
| [10:13:04] | stuarta: | jheizer: when you wake up, can you add libva-dev and libvdpau-dev to your build slaves please |
| [10:17:08] | stuarta: | jheizer: also, have you configured them to auto update? |
| [10:27:26] | MythBuild: | build #2388 of master-ubuntu-current-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/2388 |
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| [11:19:00] | MythBuild: | build #1 of 027candidates-f22–64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/027c . . . bit/builds/1 |
| [11:27:03] | gary_buhrmaster: | stuarta: Thanks for the updates to 0.27/candidates. As you suggested, remove the F21-qt5 BB slave config(s) at your convenience, and I'll stop running the VM. |
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| [12:17:17] | stuarta: | gary_buhrmaster: i'll remove it once you've stopped it |
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| [12:57:44] | jheizer: | stuarta, installed. And yes, they should both be auto updating. |
| [12:58:13] | stuarta: | jheizer: cheers thanks |
| [12:59:38] | jheizer: | Hmm, but there are a dozen outstanding updates |
| [13:00:02] | jheizer: | not sure how often the auto updates run. I always explicitly disable them. |
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| [13:02:41] | stuarta: | there's 2 parts to it when i google'd for the solution recently |
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| [13:03:46] | jheizer: | Looks like I did |
| [13:03:47] | jheizer: | sudo apt-get install unattended-upgrades |
| [13:03:47] | jheizer: | sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow unattended-upgrades |
| [13:04:21] | stuarta: | there's a config file for unattended-upgrades .../50unattended-upgrades where you have to configure what updates you want |
| [13:05:27] | jheizer: | Ah I see |
| [13:05:33] | jheizer: | all but security was commented out |
| [13:06:23] | jheizer: | I thought I read the reconfigure -plow was suppose to enable everything, but it set up a different config file that enabled that config. |
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| [13:12:53] | stuarta: | yeah, it's just plain odd |
| [13:41:52] | stichnot: | Half-idle question (maybe for stuartm?). Is there any technical reason why theme files are accessed from the file system, rather than through storage groups? |
| [13:43:02] | stuartm: | technical, no, but there is the question of speed |
| [13:43:41] | stichnot: | latency? (as opposed to throughput?) |
| [13:43:47] | stuartm: | yes |
| [13:44:54] | stichnot: | I actually use NFS and never noticed an issue (but on a gigabit network). Do you think there's much different between SG and NFS? |
| [13:45:03] | stuartm: | remotely reading the xml, and especially stating images to check for changes could be noticably slower on even a reasonably fast wired network, nevermind something like wifi |
| [13:45:32] | stichnot: | I have a perfectly sucky wireless connection on my laptop for testing :) |
| [13:45:35] | stuartm: | stichnot: there are some wasted cycles in storage groups, so fractionally slower and without the caching that nfs does behind the scenes |
| [13:46:27] | stichnot: | OK. But in theory it could be switchable, just like the hidden option to not stream recordings/videos from the backend? |
| [13:46:27] | stuarta: | i could see some mileage in the backend being responsible for downloading and storing updates of theme tar balls into a SG, which is then downloaded and used by the frontend |
| [13:46:55] | stuartm: | one of the issues with storage groups is the why we search for through every storage group directory searching for files, never caching the results so we don't keep repeating that search |
| [13:47:42] | stichnot: | stuartm: sure, but would anyone in their right mind set up a multi-dir SG for themes? :) |
| [13:48:15] | stuartm: | extra delays are incurred by that redundant searching where the storage group includes filesystems which are configured to spin down when not being used which is a typical configuration with many users who want to reduce noise and power wastage |
| [13:49:01] | stuartm: | stichnot: if we fail to find the file we want in the named storage group, the code goes on to search all groups ... which is another thing which should be changed |
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| [13:49:41] | stichnot: | stuartm: Isn't theme file loading done just once, and then you have to manually refresh if you want? (with at least one exception – osd_subtitle.xml which I load at each playback) |
| [13:50:33] | stuartm: | stichnot: the base theme files are loaded once, but the per-screen stuff is loaded each time it's required |
| [13:54:06] | stichnot: | Anyway, where I'm going with this is, AFAIK, theme files and config.xml are the only files that have to be stored locally for a frontend (ignoring caches, also ignoring NFS). If theme files were in a SG, and a frontend's config.xml parameters were somehow auto-discovered at startup, would that be enough for a stateless frontend? |
| [13:56:11] | ** stuarta votes yes ** | |
| [13:56:51] | stuarta: | stuartm: would it be more efficient delivering them from the backend webserver? |
| [13:56:59] | pitz: | anyone having problems with httprequest.cpp error: 'RFC2822Date" is not a member of Qt? |
| [13:57:19] | stuartm: | pitz: you need qt5 to build master |
| [13:57:22] | stuarta: | stuartm: at least then you could leverage client caching |
| [13:57:27] | pitz: | i do have qt5 stuarta |
| [13:57:34] | stuartm: | which version? |
| [13:57:45] | pitz: | hmmm... how do i check? |
| [13:57:56] | stuarta: | qmake -query |
| [13:58:42] | pitz: | bleh, okay, thanks... i thought i had installed 5.4 but its still saying qt_version: 4.8.6 |
| [13:58:50] | pitz: | will address that.. |
| [13:59:05] | stuarta: | do you have a qmake-qt5 ? |
| [13:59:11] | stichnot: | even wilder, suppose JavaScript adopted a reasonable threading model and one were able to compile mythfrontend to asm.js, then you just load a url like my.backend.org/frontend.html and get the frontend in your browser |
| [13:59:15] | stuartm: | check what configure says for QMake |
| [13:59:24] | pitz: | oh yes.. 5.4.1 |
| [13:59:43] | stuartm: | pitz: it may be using the wrong qmake |
| [13:59:54] | stuarta: | stichnot: take the blue pill...... |
| [14:02:27] | stuartm: | stichnot: at one time I thought about an html renderer for mythui, but ultimately what works best on a TV screen with a remote control and what works best on a desktop with keyboard/mouse (or tablet or mobile phone) are just too different |
| [14:03:48] | stichnot: | stuartm: I'd be ecstatic to have exactly the mythfrontend laptop experience slightly shrunk into a browser window |
| [14:04:22] | stichnot: | but you're right, I have to deal with a keyboard and you'd need a touch interface |
| [14:06:25] | stuartm: | webfrontend is closer to that than mythweb was, but it's still tailored to take advantage of mouse/touch in ways that mythfrontend isn't |
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| [14:06:50] | stichnot: | stuarta: I forget which pill is which |
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| [14:09:37] | stuartm: | never built on the mouse/gesture support in mythui, although I've wanted to, basic interaction with a mouse works and that was as far as I got |
| [14:16:21] | markspieth: | Ive added some gesture support extensions for my android port based on what was previously done |
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| [15:26:53] | stichnot: | btw I finally upgraded my i386 Ubuntu 10.04 server to a new box running amd64 14.04. Getting diskless frontends working sure was a PITA. |
| [15:27:16] | stichnot: | and of course this box didn't have any PCI slots for my PVR-150 |
| [15:28:07] | stichnot: | so I got a PCI/PCIe adapter card which requires 4-pin molex power, and of course the box lacks molex power connectors |
| [15:29:56] | stichnot: | used to be you could take care of all this with a trip to Fry's, but now it seems that's only the place to go if you want fancy multi-colored LED cases and such |
| [15:30:46] | stichnot: | btw nice work on the Qt5 stuff, I barely even noticed any impact |
| [15:31:59] | jheizer: | > 12.04 diskless frontends stopped being a click and go. At that point I gave up and stuck old 2.5" drives I have in my frontends |
| [15:33:11] | stichnot: | jheizer: yeah, that's sad. I posted a novelette to mythtv-users about my experience. It was hard work but now I'm a better person for it. :) |
| [15:34:03] | stichnot: | also, now I can reboot the server and I don't have to freaking go around the house and reboot all the frontends. life-changer. |
| [15:34:14] | jheizer: | Yeah I saw that. Was tempted to try again. I have 2 frontends that I almost never use so I hate walking up to them after weeks and wondering if they'll work or be out of date. |
| [15:36:27] | stichnot: | Poor little ION-1 machines take a bit of time to get booted up, especially with all the basically unnecessary 14.04 desktop stuff. I should try to figure out how to trim that down, but I feel I've done enough work on that at this point |
| [15:37:17] | stichnot: | oh, and these ION-1 machines have 2GB RAM with no swap. Hopefully I will find any memory leaks with their help |
| [15:38:55] | stichnot: | Was wondering. Are there any plans or thoughts toward enabling C++11 in the code base? |
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| [15:51:58] | stuarta: | stichnot: no specific C++11 plans other than we should build with a C++11 compiler |
| [15:52:52] | stichnot: | stuarta: I thought you might need gcc 4.8 which some distros might not provide? |
| [15:53:04] | stichnot: | certainly ubuntu 10.04 doesn't :) |
| [15:53:18] | stuarta: | that's the dark ages man... |
| [15:53:31] | stuarta: | sheesh, we are 2 weeks away from 15.04 |
| [15:53:44] | jheizer: | haha yeah, very old. |
| [15:53:45] | stichnot: | true but I think even 12.04 didn't provide it |
| [15:53:56] | stuarta: | no, i think 14.04 does |
| [15:54:06] | stichnot: | 14.04 definitely does |
| [15:54:48] | stichnot: | but do we have a commitment to support 12.04, not to mention whatever is in other distros besides ubuntu? |
| [15:54:50] | jheizer: | 14.0.2 = 4.8.2 |
| [15:55:05] | jheizer: | err 14.0.1 |
| [15:55:08] | stuarta: | the current unwritten OS target plan is (for master) debian jessie, ubuntu lts & current, fedora non EOL (= current and current-1) |
| [15:55:18] | stuarta: | stichnot: ^^^ |
| [15:56:04] | stichnot: | anyway, I've been appreciating C++11 stuff at work, though much of it may already be more or less available in Qt |
| [15:56:18] | stichnot: | and I can probably do without lambdas :) |
| [15:56:18] | stuarta: | debian wheezy should work to, but it's an either or for qt4 vs qt5 |
| [15:56:42] | tgm4883: | While we'd like to continue building for 12.04, we've fulfilled the committment |
| [15:57:10] | stichnot: | tgm4883: interesting, I see. |
| [15:57:18] | stuarta: | tgm4883: aye, and since you can get qt5 for 12.04 (i think) you should be able to build master on it |
| [15:57:35] | stuarta: | but it's not a target |
| [15:57:52] | tgm4883: | this page shows the mythbuntu committment http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos |
| [15:58:24] | tgm4883: | 2 mythtv releases per release, LTS until next LTS |
| [15:58:48] | tgm4883: | every release that releases during an LTS lifetime (2 years) |
| [15:58:50] | stuarta: | tgm4883: that's pretty much what i'm aiming for with the buildslaves |
| [15:59:36] | tgm4883: | Now that usually isn't a problem, but it's been awhile since a MythTV release, which is why 13.10 only has 1 release on there |
| [16:00:21] | stuarta: | that's not really an issue tho is it? |
| [16:00:42] | tgm4883: | no it's not, but it shows that there can be exceptions to our support |
| [16:00:52] | stuarta: | ah |
| [16:01:49] | tgm4883: | it's also worth noting (although not specific to this conversation) that we build master, current-fixes, old-fixes |
| [16:01:59] | tgm4883: | so currently, 0.28, 0.27, and 0.26 |
| [16:02:13] | stuarta: | more than we build |
| [16:02:55] | tgm4883: | well there aren't that many builds for 0.26 :) |
| [16:03:09] | tgm4883: | it only builds if there are upstream changes |
| [16:03:56] | tgm4883: | stuarta: do the buildslaves build just x86 and x86_64? |
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| [16:05:07] | stuarta: | tgm4883: yes, todo list include arm, but it's not a priority |
| [16:05:18] | tgm4883: | ok |
| [16:05:31] | tgm4883: | we do arm builds, but they aren't 100% reliable |
| [16:05:41] | tgm4883: | Could be the builders though |
| [16:06:21] | stuarta: | smolt says we have 5 armv7l users and 2 CentaurHauls |
| [16:06:31] | stuarta: | it's no priority :) |
| [16:06:45] | tgm4883: | yea |
| [16:06:58] | stuarta: | that's against 5907 intel and 2782 amd |
| [16:07:20] | tgm4883: | you'd have more I think if the frontend worked on the pi 2 |
| [16:09:03] | stuarta: | feel free to write support for it ;-) |
| [16:09:16] | tgm4883: | heh |
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| [19:08:31] | dekarl: | stuarta, we could fix smolt to work on more distros... from the amount of people outing themselves as running on ARM in the last weeks I'd be surprised if it wasn't quite a bunch more |
| [19:26:34] | stuarta: | dekarl: smolt needs some work anyway |
| [19:26:51] | stuarta: | i still need to package and move the backend to the new server |
| [19:31:50] | paul-h: | There's something really fishy with the smolt stats for example if you believe them there are still 10 people using the MythCenterXMAS theme! |
| [19:32:37] | tgm4883: | paul-h: I 100% believe the smolt stats and the 90+% ubuntu users |
| [19:32:40] | tgm4883: | :) |
| [19:36:08] | paul-h: | That proves they are fixed :) |
| [19:37:14] | paul-h: | sraue: who is the best person to ping with package query/fixes? |
| [19:37:34] | stuarta: | paul-h: it is cumulative |
| [19:37:50] | stuarta: | so there probably *were* 10 ppl using it |
| [19:38:25] | tgm4883: | stuarta: there is no dropping of users after X amount of time? |
| [19:39:04] | paul-h: | I don't believe that there was a lot more than that before Xmas |
| [19:39:05] | stuarta: | maybe, i'm quite possibly talking crap |
| [19:39:41] | paul-h: | If that was true them the stats are really useless |
| [19:40:00] | stuarta: | paul-h: so you've seen the numbers going down for xmas theme? |
| [19:40:09] | paul-h: | yes |
| [19:40:25] | stuarta: | then i must be wrong |
| [19:43:20] | paul-h: | In theory each system that has submitted smolt stats in the past should resubmit them once a month |
| [19:45:15] | stuarta: | that makes sense |
| [19:45:17] | paul-h: | They are mostly meaningless anyway because possibly apart the MythBuntu users each user has to opt in so I don't believe we get a true picture anyway |
| [19:46:13] | tgm4883: | paul-h: nope, all users have to opt in |
| [19:46:19] | gary_buhrmaster: | paul-h: And there was, at one point in the past, issues with the smolt server being "challenged" such that frontend startup could hang (do not recall the details) so a number of people opted out. |
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| [19:49:58] | gary_buhrmaster: | In any event, smolt (upstream) was declared dead some time ago. When I looked, there was no replacement. |
| [19:51:24] | stuarta: | yep, and we are running our own customized version of that |
| [19:57:22] | stuarta: | it's typical fedora way. smolt isn't working well, lets kill it, and 3yrs later the "replacement" appears completely dead in the water |
| [20:09:07] | gary_buhrmaster: | It is a no-win situation. Smolt (being opt-in) had a large selection bias in any statistics, and any alternative (that auto opted-in) for better information had privacy issues. Perhaps you can just file a FOI request with your countries 3/4 letter agency to find out what your users are doing at home...... |
| [20:11:01] | stuarta: | these days i don't think you can auto opt-in anyone |
| [20:12:22] | dekarl: | paul-h btw, I like the idea of that theme. Maybe the idea could be extended to a "seasonal theme" that adapts by updates per season? |
| [20:13:13] | dekarl: | IIRC smolt shows "systems that have connected in the past 90 days" |
| [20:13:16] | gary_buhrmaster: | stuarta: Your counties laws will vary. Ask the .cn users if they were asked about opting in to the GFW. |
| [20:14:28] | gary_buhrmaster: | dekarl: So, like the Google Doodles, will you do region specific themes for certain seasons? |
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| [20:14:34] | stuarta: | ah yes, the GFW which was DDOSing github |
| [20:17:33] | dekarl: | gary_buhrmaster: yes, something like that, but a bit simpler. I was thinking of basically winter/spring/summer/autumn and thats it. (maybe in two variants for the northern/southern hemisphere) |
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| [20:20:14] | stuarta: | dang alcor just started throwing memory errors again |
| [20:20:15] | gary_buhrmaster: | stuarta: Not just github, but that was the incoming traffic insertion of .js to the clients, the classic use of the term GFW is outgoing "protection" of their citizens. |
| [20:23:21] | gary_buhrmaster: | stuarta: I suspect that alcor just needs to be put out of your misery. It was a great machine, but time to pull the plug. Admin assisted suicide is legal in Oregon. |
| [20:24:13] | stuarta: | problem is, we haven't migrate everything off yet :( |
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| [20:24:49] | gary_buhrmaster: | stuarta: Hm, I thought I recalled that you said you made a "final" rsync at one point. I must have mis-remembered. |
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| [20:25:27] | stuarta: | nah, just have to do them regularly so if it does go splat i have a backup |
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| [20:53:45] | tgm4883: | Can someone review and merge https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/pull/49 |
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