| Thursday, April 2nd, 2015, 00:25 UTC | ||
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| [00:26:00] | stuartm: | https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/ead17cf – A significant gotcha with QT5, something we should actively audit for |
| [01:04:05] | pitz: | yeah i noticed that, couldn't build new mythtv |
| [01:04:12] | pitz: | on my non-qt5 machine |
| [01:04:36] | pitz: | i presume simply putting qt5 on it will fix that, eh? |
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| [01:50:53] | BLZbubba: | stuartm: text='Les Allemands ont perc� � Besan�on.' |
| [01:50:57] | BLZbubba: | from the vbi log |
| [01:53:47] | BLZbubba: | mythfrontend[891]: W CoreContext textsubtitleparser.cpp:327 (LoadSubtitles) Failed to autodetect a UTF encoding. |
| [01:56:29] | BLZbubba: | must be something set wrong in the environment |
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| [02:06:27] | rmeden: | Hi Guys.. Robert w/ Schedules Direct here. many of you may have gotten an email I sent about people polling around midnight. Looks like there's a bug with MythTV I'm trying to figure out where our suggested times are being ignored. |
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| [02:07:13] | rmeden: | Someone has suggested it's ignored if it is less than 24 hours ahead. Someone else thinks they saw a housekeeping log entry that it was rescheduling it. |
| [02:07:34] | rmeden: | I'm digging through the code, but I don't use MythTV, so if someone familiar with how things are scheduled could take a look, I'd appreciate it. |
| [02:18:12] | BLZbubba: | I CoreContext mythcorecontext.cpp:257 (Init) Assumed character encoding: en_US.UTF-8 |
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| [03:48:14] | BLZbubba: | stuartm: got it! the files were ISO-8859–15, so converting to utf8 made them work properly |
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| [08:07:57] | stuarta: | morning all |
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| [09:00:00] | warpme: | stuartm: I have Q regarding webfrontend and http proxy. I have internet exposed web server which is also proxy which gives internet access to many intranet web servers by dir in URL i.e It works OK except webfrontend. I believe difficulty with getting webfrontend to work in such scenario is because qsp served be webserver have absolute patchs for scripts and resources. My fronting web server is doing URL rewrite – but not resources URI rewr |
| [09:00:18] | stuarta: | yep, i found the same thing |
| [09:01:02] | stuarta: | it's horribly messy to unpick |
| [09:01:34] | warpme: | Is there way to approach such usecase beside changing URI in qsp files. (I experiment with this and slowly getting webfrontend paritially working) – but this is ugly hack |
| [09:02:14] | stuarta: | that's exactly what i tried, and i broke many things :( |
| [09:02:23] | warpme: | :-) |
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| [09:04:25] | stuarta: | so i gave up, many better things to work on |
| [09:06:29] | warpme: | sad! For me KEY advantage of webfrontend is external access to content. Currently user can arrange such access only with "port level" proxy. Any scenario with HTTP proxy allowing only traffic on port 80 is no go... |
| [09:07:04] | warpme: | saying web frontend I mean accessing mythtv be via web |
| [09:12:26] | dekarl: | warpme does the proxy support hostname based proxying? |
| [09:13:23] | dekarl: | e.g. if its Apache with rewrite rules used as a proxy you could setup two virtual hosts, one with your existing map, the other with a 1:1 mapping to the web frontend |
| [09:13:24] | warpme: | it is lighttpd so I believe no problem with this. This is indeed interesting idea! |
| [09:15:15] | warpme: | definitelly will investigate this approach. have You any expierience with this approach under Apache? |
| [09:16:02] | warpme: | for indeed it should work |
| [09:16:14] | warpme: | s/for/for me/ |
| [09:17:02] | stuarta: | i hate apache |
| [09:17:13] | warpme: | me too! :-p |
| [09:17:37] | stuarta: | i use nginx |
| [09:18:09] | warpme: | are You switched to http/2 already? :-) |
| [09:18:14] | stuarta: | nope |
| [09:19:27] | warpme: | have to go for conf-call. will back later |
| [09:19:46] | stuarta: | i'm down from 2 calls in parallel, to just 1 :) |
| [09:20:20] | warpme: | welcome in today's world :-\ |
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| [10:04:30] | stuartm: | warpme: paths are generally relative, not absolute, but there are exceptions such as the websocket path which has to be absolute since it operates on a different port |
| [10:05:25] | stuartm: | eventually I hope to have the websocket server on the same port, I just haven't worked out how best to integrate it with the http server |
| [10:08:19] | stuartm: | absolute path, not absolute uri ... I know appreciate what you were saying, the paths are all absolute to the root of the server |
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| [11:23:04] | knightr: | dekarl, I told you translation requests worked like that but I guess you needed to hear it from someone else as I guess my own experience in the matter did not matter... (that said I have two I will commit this week-end...) |
| [11:23:47] | knightr: | dekarl as you really seem to think I am doing a poor job if you want the job you can have it... |
| [11:27:47] | knightr: | with my limited knowledge of C++ that's the only place I can really contribute right now while you can contribute to a lot more stuff than I do but if you want the job you can have it... |
| [11:31:24] | knightr: | one day someone will have to explain to me why the minor devs (though I am not sure we translation guys are considered devs by the others) always have to justify their usefulness (or lack of it...). |
| [11:32:07] | knightr: | and I knew about the tickets I have assigned, I just needed a little break from this for a little while... |
| [11:34:05] | knightr: | oops, I think I misread... |
| [11:34:08] | stuarta: | knightr: we all need a break from time to time |
| [11:34:47] | knightr: | stuarta, I always tried to commit everything within days |
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| [11:35:02] | stuarta: | doing better than me :) |
| [11:35:10] | knightr: | (that's where I was wrong, I misread what stuartm said) |
| [11:35:20] | knightr: | lol |
| [11:35:32] | knightr: | I commit stuff submitted by others usually... |
| [11:35:49] | knightr: | but it looks like I/we always have to justify our existence |
| [11:36:25] | knightr: | and everybody thinks he (I would say she too usually but we have no woman in the group) would do better... |
| [11:36:43] | stuarta: | nobody has to justify their existance around here. if they did nobody would be left |
| [11:37:00] | stuarta: | now which damn arm platform to test? armel or armhf? |
| [11:37:09] | knightr: | I want to reorganize the translation (in the source code) to prepare for going web to translate the stuff |
| [11:37:19] | knightr: | but some people think we are not going fast enough... |
| [11:37:22] | stuartm: | knightr: you don't, we appreciate what you do and the way you do it, I certainly didn't mean to cause offence and I highly doubt dekarl did either |
| [11:37:32] | knightr: | I do that to help |
| [11:37:42] | ** stuarta heads out for lunch ** | |
| [11:38:05] | knightr: | but I don't want to get even more pissed off than I already am sometimes after a day at work while doing so... |
| [11:38:30] | knightr: | bon appétit stuarta! |
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| [12:01:53] | dekarl-work: | knightr: I did not intend any harm to you. I've just been going through our pull requests, because they sometimes get overlooked, and found it sad that they sit there for so long. |
| [12:02:20] | dekarl-work: | I know that its the current process for translations. But for all contributions (translation or not) I think that sitting on the shelf for years is a bad way to attract more contributions. So I thought that less then one release per year might be a little bit slow |
| [12:03:23] | dekarl-work: | Somehow we have to balance the release frequency to get new stuff and fixes out to the people but not release to often when there is no WOW effect |
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| [13:32:21] | dblain: | Does anyone know if the G.A.N.T. theme is still active? Reason I ask is the '.' at the end of the folder name in mythplugins/mytharchive/mythburn/themes/G.A.N.T./ is causing major issues with git on windows. git can't create the directory and is marking all files in it as deleted and it won't let me reset. This is causing me concern since I want to commit my latest changes but don't want to |
| [13:32:21] | dblain: | delete these files. |
| [13:33:47] | dblain: | I'm also surprised to see theme specific files in a plugin... |
| [13:41:29] | stuartm: | thought GANT died years ago, it's one of the very oldest themes |
| [13:41:40] | stuarta: | at a minimum i'd drop the trailing do |
| [13:41:42] | stuarta: | dot |
| [13:42:16] | stuartm: | oh, a mythburn CD theme, that's different – dblain I would talk to Paul |
| [13:42:30] | stuartm: | he maintains mytharchive these days |
| [13:42:55] | stuartm: | dblain: it's not a ui theme, it's a CD menu theme |
| [13:43:26] | stuartm: | just happens to be based, stylistically, on the old GANT ui theme |
| [13:44:06] | dblain: | stuartm: That explains why it's in the plugin directory. Thanks. |
| [13:45:38] | dblain: | for now, I guess I can create a diff and move it to my linux box to commit the changes. |
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| [15:07:17] | stuartm: | dblain: iirc there is some git configuration option which might help |
| [15:40:55] | stuartm: | failing that, we can fix the existing and then add this – https://github.com/t-b/git-pre-commit-hook-windows-filenames |
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| [15:56:52] | BLZbubba: | stuartm: thanks for the font/locale/utf help yesterday, in the end I should have just run "file" on the files and I would have seen that they were iso8559 instead of utf8 :) |
| [15:58:03] | stuartm: | glad you got it sorted |
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| [17:32:31] | stuartm: | dblain: strange, that getloadavg() usage isn't new, wonder why it didn't break the build earlier? |
| [17:33:33] | dblain: | stuartm: the build has been broken for many months. Not sure when it as added (didn't even think to look). Easy, if not lazy fix for now. |
| [17:34:02] | stuartm: | it's almost four years old |
| [17:34:50] | stuartm: | not sure about the justification for the system stats stuff, users like it, but I'm not sure how useful/relevant it is for MythTV |
| [17:34:52] | dblain: | now I'm curious... must look. |
| [17:35:18] | stuartm: | I've been tempted to quietly drop it and see if anyone complains |
| [17:35:52] | dblain: | not as needed as it once was (back in the i386 days!) |
| [17:36:42] | dblain: | I thought there may have been a stub implemented in the includes specific to msvc-2010, but I didn't see anything obvious. |
| [17:37:16] | stuartm: | usually it's something you only need to know when things go wrong, at which point you'll probably need to ssh in to a machine to fix it anyway so displaying the information in the UI seems redundant |
| [17:38:18] | dblain: | I don't see a need for it, but I'm sure someone is using it :/ |
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| [17:42:45] | dblain: | stuarta: I just changes the build slave config to use msvc 2013. To tie up loose ends, the build slave should be renamed. Is it just a matter of changing all instances in the repository? I feel there should be more to it than that. |
| [20:07:27] | stuartm: | dekarl1: re editing metadata for recordings in the WebFrontend, do you think we should allow editing of the star rating? |
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| [21:25:17] | dblain: | MythBuild: force build master-win8-msvc-2010–32bit |
| [21:28:34] | ** dblain either doesn't have strong MythBuild foo, or somethings wrong with the build server ** | |
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| [21:38:50] | jheizer: | blank space in front stop it from working? |
| [21:38:50] | jheizer: | MythBuild: force build master-win8-msvc-2010–32bit |
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| [21:38:51] | MythBuild: | build #1451 forced |
| [21:38:51] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
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| [21:39:23] | dblain: | jheizer: thanks, That's what I get for cut & paste. |
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| [21:40:39] | jheizer: | No problem. Side note excited to try it with VS 2013. I didn't have 2010 installed anymore when you had done that, but have 13 everywhere. |
| [21:41:17] | dblain: | stuarta: It looks like the build server didn't pick up my script changes. What needs to be done for it to use the new script? |
| [21:42:09] | dblain: | jheizer: Not sure if I've fixed it enough to get it to complile cleanly yet. There still may be a circular dep. |
| [21:42:41] | jheizer: | I'd be happy just at the .sln and .proj level. Easier to browse around in my familiar world. |
| [21:43:16] | dblain: | that works fine. open powershell and run: ./configure.ps1 debug sln |
| [21:43:52] | dblain: | it creates project files and a sln file at each level (mythtv.sln, libs.sln, programs.sln, etc) |
| [21:44:44] | jheizer: | Nice. I started downloading everything here on my desktop earlier but stopped. Was going to be too much of a distraction at that moment |
| [21:46:48] | dblain: | I find visual studio's debugger nice to use (could be because I use it every day). So I do all my mythtv development using visual studio and test in linux before committing. |
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| [21:48:14] | jheizer: | absolutely |
| [21:48:19] | jheizer: | agree |
| [21:50:18] | jheizer: | Though I've never really setup a linux IDE, but when trying to dig through code I don't know right click -> go to definition is GOLD |
| [21:52:30] | stuartm: | kde offers that sort of thing – definition/declaration, find uses |
| [21:52:32] | dblain: | definitely. Not sure how much I like the "Peek at definition" yet. It did help find redefines (listed them all right below the code I selected) so I guess I can grow to like it :) |
| [21:52:34] | stuartm: | kdevelop |
| [21:53:02] | jheizer: | yeah, the peek hasn't grown on me yet either. |
| [21:54:02] | stuartm: | hover on anything and it will show a summary – public/private, container/class, and first line of the documentation if available |
| [21:54:04] | dblain: | stuartm: does kdevelop open the pro files or makefile? How much work is it to setup a project that includes all the subprojects? |
| [21:54:59] | dblain: | It would be nice to have a linux native alternative for the times I don't feel like fighting with compatibility issues or when a problem only happens in linux. |
| [21:55:46] | stuartm: | dblain: it should be able to understand the pro files, but to be honest I've never really bothered with it's build integration side or gone to the trouble of having it treat MythTV as a Qt project – the code browsing features are enough for me |
| [21:57:47] | stuartm: | it's written by KDE developers, uses Qt, so it's 'native' environment is C++/qt centric, but it supports a huge number of languages to various extents |
| [21:57:50] | dblain: | ah. Although I'm fine with command line builds. I do find it more proficient to make the change, compile, test/debug, all in the same IDE. I got really spoiled with "edit and continue", although c++ doesn't work as well. It allows you to make a code change WHILE debugging. |
| [21:58:45] | stuartm: | has git integration, can view annotation and go to commit diffs from the editor etc |
| [21:59:02] | stuartm: | the annotation (blame/praise) has frequently been useful |
| [21:59:25] | dblain: | vs2013 has native git integration too... haven't used it too much. I do like doing my commits from the command line. |
| [22:00:10] | dblain: | I've been using TFS for my contract work... I really miss blame. |
| [22:00:27] | jheizer: | VS has me spoiled for all your reasons above |
| [22:00:32] | jheizer: | one world I get to stay in for everything |
| [22:00:57] | jheizer: | git blame a who last updated this line? |
| [22:01:15] | dblain: | yes. Know how to do that in TFS? |
| [22:01:19] | jheizer: | yeah |
| [22:01:20] | stuartm: | jheizer: who, when, why |
| [22:01:27] | jheizer: | right click, source control, annotate |
| [22:01:35] | jheizer: | does it for the whol document on the left side |
| [22:01:46] | stuartm: | almost identical to kdevelop then, probably not a coincidence |
| [22:03:07] | dekarl: | stuartm, editing the users star rating makes sense, but that would be a different star rating from the guide/metadata site imho. Maybe we can some day in the future send the users star rating back to the tmdb |
| [22:03:20] | dblain: | jheizer: nice! thanks... Guess I need to learn to use TFS more than just checking in changes. |
| [22:03:54] | jheizer: | I'm not a git pro, but tfs is decent. Branch merges go great 99% of the time, etc. |
| [22:04:35] | stuartm: | dekarl: well we store the star rating in both recorded and recordprogram, I probably wouldn't have suggested it otherwise, as I tend to consider recordedprogram as inviolable – it's the canonical record of the program that was recorded and shouldn't be edited |
| [22:05:17] | dblain: | jheizer: what put a bad taste in my mouth about TFS is if you change a file not locked outside VS, it doesn't see it as being changed and doesn't pull down the unmodifed version when you execute "Get Latest" |
| [22:05:31] | jheizer: | yes |
| [22:05:33] | stuartm: | but stuff in recorded is another matter entirely, the only bits I wouldn't let the user alter there are hard facts like the size of the recording, whether it was in HD or had stereo audio etc |
| [22:05:38] | jheizer: | that is stupid |
| [22:05:47] | jheizer: | have to do the get specified and update all BS |
| [22:06:18] | dekarl: | stuartm, the thing that I miss most are editing the title/subtile/program_type to help the metadata search to find the proper record and pull in the details |
| [22:06:40] | dblain: | jheizer: back on topic... Trying to find time to spend on MythTV again... hoping to have the windows build fixed soon. |
| [22:07:23] | dblain: | are you interested in running the frontend, backend, or just develop on windows? |
| [22:07:29] | jheizer: | stuarta was trying to rope me insto some stuff yesterday and VS would help that |
| [22:07:33] | jheizer: | sorry I have to run |
| [22:07:41] | jheizer: | wife just got home to go out to dinner |
| [22:07:59] | jheizer: | but mostly view right now |
| [22:08:03] | jheizer: | catch you another day |
| [22:08:09] | stuartm: | dekarl: hadn't thought about category_type, that's not in recorded, so we might want to fix that |
| [22:09:13] | stuartm: | my current list is: title, subtitle, description, inetref, season, episode, totalepisodes, autoexpire, preserve and watched (editable) |
| [22:09:53] | stuartm: | well and 'stars' |
| [22:11:21] | stuartm: | if we're going to allow users to edit the star rating, I'm tempted to rename the column, and treat it as a 'user rating' field in programinfo, optionally displaying both in the UI – 'Critics Rating' and 'Your rating' |
| [22:11:32] | dekarl: | That would be a popup of some kind? I was thinking of a simple in-place editing for title/subtitle and a new entry in the context menu to start the metadata grabber |
| [22:11:54] | dekarl: | we only have mob_rating right now :) |
| [22:13:19] | dekarl: | Do we pull in the description on recordings? Or is that only on videos? (would be nice if the answer was the same) |
| [22:13:59] | stuartm: | referring just to the services API bit for now, the WebFrontend UI will probably be in-place editing for title/subtitle/description, autoexpire/watched will be toggled by clicking on their icons (like mythweb), star rating probably by clicking on the star image or a FB style up/down vote |
| [22:14:28] | dekarl: | I like "Your rating", would fit well into the end-of-recording popup (asking if you want to delete the recording atm) |
| [22:14:34] | stuartm: | dekarl: for recordings we only pull in artwork and season/episode info if it's not already present |
| [22:15:23] | stuartm: | not keen on pulling in description for recordings personally, it would have to be optional, the professionally written summaries provided by guide data beat the lousy descriptions provided by tmdb etc |
| [22:15:25] | dekarl: | Hmm, the german speaking xmltv services miss lots of descriptions due to licensing. |
| [22:15:58] | stuartm: | dekarl: would make sense to do it automatically when there's no existing description to overwrite |
| [22:16:18] | stuartm: | like we do for the season/episode info |
| [22:17:14] | dekarl: | that all sounds like there should be a services that mixes the guide data with the data from metadata sites :/ |
| [22:20:40] | dekarl: | time to hit sack |
| [22:27:40] | stuartm: | might have to ditch the black box which is ProgramFlags, doesn't feel right in the API |
| [22:47:57] | MythBuild: | build #1451 of master-win8-msvc-2010–32bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/1451 |
| [22:49:11] | dblain: | Don't believe it!... I killed the build slave. |
| [23:27:53] | stuartm: | aww |
| [23:31:22] | Hydr0p0nX: | I have a *very* old 0.27 windows build that works better than the build running on my combined be/fe |
| [23:31:46] | Hydr0p0nX: | the only problem that one has is I have to hit pause/play to get audio sometimes |
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