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| [09:33:51] | paul-h: | What was the point of all the header changes? I have a feeling that's going to give me a headache merging my patches :( |
| [09:45:21] | stuarta: | i believe there were some circular library dependencies |
| [09:46:49] | stuarta: | stuartm: ^^^ ? |
| [09:50:01] | paul-h: | And the award for the most pointless commit of 2015 goes to ...... |
| [09:50:20] | paul-h: | stuartm – congratulations |
| [09:50:55] | paul-h: | speech! |
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| [09:58:10] | stuarta: | paul-h: unless your changes are around the area of the header, it shouldn't make that much of a problem merging |
| [10:03:01] | paul-h: | Yeah it did break compilation for me but was easy to fix |
| [10:03:34] | stuarta: | iirc some of those changes made significant savings in the size of the compiled libs |
| [10:06:19] | paul-h: | I'm no expert in this area but I find that hard to believe moving headers around will affect the size of the libs |
| [10:06:29] | stuartm: | the point was that all those includes were unused in the files in which they appeared, as stuarta mentioned a number of them came from other libs and cleaning them up makes it clearer where the interdependencies between the libs really lie so we can start fixing the circular dependency issues |
| [10:07:18] | stuartm: | paul-h: not moving them around, removing unused headers where they are not used, and adding them only where they are needed |
| [10:08:41] | stuartm: | and it wasn't the library size, but the size of the object files and therefore the amount of space required for compilation – which was a benefit but not the primary advantage of the cleanup |
| [10:09:20] | stuarta: | i think the important bit is it allows fixing of the circular dep, which is an issue |
| [10:10:00] | paul-h: | Didn't know there was a problem is that new |
| [10:12:06] | stuarta: | it's recent yet |
| [10:12:07] | stuartm: | there have always been problems , but in particular programinfo and the related enums being in libmyth are causing us problems with the services API |
| [10:12:09] | stuarta: | *yes |
| [10:13:03] | stuartm: | conceptually programinfo would go into libmythmetadata, but libmythmetadata is linking libmythui which isn't ideal |
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| [10:17:58] | stuartm: | libmyth needs to go away, as has long been the plan, but to do that we first need to do get the conversion of the settings to mythui merged so we can cull the old ui and settings code ... |
| [10:22:24] | paul-h: | wasn't Jonatan working on the setting stuff what happened there? |
| [10:22:47] | paul-h: | Do I need to get my big stick out again :) |
| [10:22:51] | stuartm: | paul-h: I'm not sure, I'll ask him where he got to |
| [10:23:45] | paul-h: | I remember testing his patch which worked OK but needed some tweaks here and there |
| [10:24:08] | stuartm: | IMHO we should just start merging the bits that are ready, and then fix issues as they are found |
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| [10:31:45] | paul-h: | Looks like it's 3 months since he touched it last https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/tree/devel/mythui/settings |
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| [10:40:13] | stuarta: | stuartm: agreed |
| [10:47:10] | paul-h: | I'm not a big fan of merging stuff before it is ready – while I'm sure everyone has good intentions at fixing stuff there is way too much 'This will do for now I will fix it later' going on. Later never comes and we end up with stuff that partially works but still needs work to complete properly |
| [10:49:09] | paul-h: | That's where we miss a strong leader like Chutt_ because that sort of thing would never happen because you know you would get an ear bashing :) |
| [10:50:59] | stuarta: | the question is, is that code better or worse than what we already have? |
| [10:52:31] | paul-h: | I believe the problem is it's not complete at the moment there are still a few things that need converting |
| [10:53:23] | stuartm: | paul-h: that's why I never merged it way back when the patches were first submitted, I tried and tried to get people to test out the changes so we could address issues before making them a problem for more people, but no-one was really interested – these days we just don't have the manpower to get adequate testing of multiple branches |
| [10:54:26] | stuartm: | people tend to fix things only when it causes them problems, so merging early might be the only way to get people to take an interest in fixing the issues |
| [10:56:30] | stuarta: | perfect case in point is qt5 |
| [10:57:00] | stuarta: | now we are building against qt5 in master, it's shaking out issues here and there |
| [11:02:19] | stuartm: | it's not how I'd prefer to do things, but in terms of pushing through big changes it seems like the most effective – unglamorous features like the settings re-write don't attract enough interest in branches of their own |
| [11:05:24] | paul-h: | Yeah I do agree if it's the only way to get it completed then so be it |
| [11:11:17] | paul-h: | We should at least ask Jonatan what he thinks first since he is likely the one to get the flack if it doesn't work properly! |
| [11:19:14] | paul-h: | Anyone seen or reported problems with MythSocket after upgrading to current master? ASSERT failure in QList<T>::operator[]: "index out of range" |
| [11:21:20] | paul-h: | MythSocket(edc600:70): Protocol error: '' is not a valid size prefix. 15886 bytes pending. |
| [11:21:34] | stuarta: | i've not seen that |
| [11:55:22] | ** stuartm either ** | |
| [11:55:39] | stuartm: | paul-h: are you building against QT5, or QT4? |
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| [12:06:45] | stuartm: | the MythSocket protocol isn't that tolerant to errors, particularly incomplete messages, can't do much about it without a redesign to framed messages but we can prevent it segfaulting |
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| [12:12:04] | paul-h: | I'm still using Qt4 until I can update my version of Qt5 – I suspect it's the MythZM alarm notification but sods law dictates it wont crash under gdb to confirm it |
| [12:12:55] | paul-h: | It did take a few hours before so maybe I just need to patient |
| [12:15:39] | stuarta: | paul-h: what distro are you running on, most distros will allow coexistant packages of qt4 and qt5 |
| [12:15:57] | stuarta: | apart from debian wheezy |
| [12:23:11] | paul-h: | stuarta: Gentoo – I do have both Qt4 and Qt5 installed but only Qt5.1 beta I think it is which I know crashes Myth |
| [12:24:43] | paul-h: | Or at least it did when I tried it many months ago it's possible those bugs have already been fixed |
| [12:25:29] | paul-h: | Does MythBrowser work OK with Qt5? |
| [12:30:28] | paul-h: | stuartm: any luck testing Roger's gallery patches? |
| [12:40:49] | stuartm: | damn it, forgot to sort that out |
| [12:41:35] | stuartm: | in my limited testing mythbrowser was working |
| [12:45:54] | stuartm: | I'm applying the patches now, will test them out tonight and do a quick code review |
| [13:47:29] | paul-h: | stuartm: thanks I'd forgot about them myself I was just looking for another email when I spotted the one from Roger with the patches |
| [13:48:13] | stuarta: | i do think we need to have a merge fest, push as much stuff in as we can that people have done for us, then stabilize it all |
| [13:48:59] | paul-h: | Myth is refusing to crash under gdb don't know if that is good or bad :) |
| [13:49:36] | stuarta: | normally means it's a race condition |
| [13:50:22] | stuarta: | so you are better off setting ulimit -c unlimited and getting it to dump core, and debug later |
| [13:58:45] | paul-h: | trying that now thanks |
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| [16:03:46] | stuarta: | paul-h: get it to crash? |
| [16:08:52] | paul-h: | Nope can't get it crash now – it's a mystery |
| [16:10:15] | stuarta: | :( |
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| [16:51:07] | usr13: | I'm having touble recording. It was working good when I first installed about 2 weeks ago, but now I get garbled, pixelated interrupted recordings. It is as if the antenna were obstructed, (but it's not). |
| [16:51:12] | usr13: | One change I notice is that ffmpeg has been updtate. I see that the date on it is Feb 24 12:05 |
| [16:51:18] | usr13: | Mabe I need to recompile ffmpeg? |
| [16:51:42] | stuartm: | usr13: mythtv doesn't use the system version of ffmpeg |
| [16:52:00] | stuartm: | and it's not used for recording either, only playback |
| [16:59:11] | usr13: | Ok, well, I've also wondered if it's trying to use wrong tuner, (one that is already in use)? |
| [16:59:41] | usr13: | I have the dual tuner (bottom of the line) HDHomerun. |
| [17:00:29] | usr13: | And not sure I have everything configured right. One thing I see is that in the configuration menu I see options for 4 input devices (this is in recording options). |
| [17:01:33] | usr13: | But now... I should also say that I plan to get the HDHomeRun EXTEND or HDHomeRun PRIME |
| [17:01:45] | usr13: | (Sometime soon, as in a week...) |
| [17:13:34] | stuartm: | usr13: it wouldn't be able to reuse an in-use tuner, the symptoms you describe would be signal quality related – that can happen for a lot of reasons such as a temporary decrease in signal strength because of repairs/upgrades being made on the transmitter |
| [17:15:19] | stuartm: | mis-alignment of the aerial due to weather damage; damage to the cable between the aerial and the HDHR; too strong a signal (remove any amplifiers); too weak a signal (remove any splitters); lose connection at the aerial or HDHR; could even be a fault in the HDHR itself |
| [17:16:20] | stuartm: | interference from electrical items near the aerial, cable or hdhr are another possibility |
| [17:17:34] | stuartm: | if you are in the UK, they are presently testing 4G mobile networks in the old TV frequencies, those are expected to cause some interference for a limited number of people – they are providing free filters |
| [17:46:09] | zentec: | you can check the stats of the HDHOMERUN ... install the config utility and then use hdhomerun_config discover to get your device ID, and then use the id in hdhomerun_config <ID> get /tuner#/status |
| [17:46:23] | zentec: | the OTA tuner doesn't have the best frontend |
| [17:47:20] | zentec: | so stuartm's advice on too little or too much signal is spot on |
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| [18:15:25] | paul-h: | anyone know how to start mysql on Mint 17 qiana https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=759 |
| [18:20:44] | stuartm: | something like "service mysqld start" I'd guess, but I don't know for sure |
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| [18:35:25] | paul-h: | natanojl: read the log from 10:17 irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2015-03–25 – we was discussing merging your settings patch |
| [18:37:27] | natanojl: | paul-h: I peeked at it during the day but I'll take a look again. |
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| [19:00:07] | paul-h: | natanojl: fwiw I did test it way back in December not sure if you saw my comments http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2014-12-30 from 11:04 |
| [19:17:42] | natanojl: | paul-h: I have a series of commits that I'm cleaning up. The playback profile editor seems to work (except adding/deleting profiles). The storage group editor also seems to work. I'm getting close to push those parts and maybe we should merge those back to master after a little while. I have done a lot of the stuff for the capture cards & video sources but there are parts I have to go through again. There are also parts I haven't started with |
| [19:17:42] | natanojl: | , for example the channel editor and the channel scanner. |
| [19:20:57] | natanojl: | paul-h: I read your comments back then I think but I haven't done anything about it since I am mostly using my own theme. I'll add that to my TODO list. I didn't remember the audio test issue though so I'll add that to the list as well |
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| [20:36:43] | stuartm: | paul-h: first issue with the patches are that there are missing theme changes for default-wide |
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| [20:45:22] | stuartm: | it's rotated images the wrong way .... |
| [20:47:32] | stuartm: | all my portrait photos are displayed upside down ... |
| [20:55:00] | stuartm: | paul-h: mentioned those two issues to Rodger and have asked if he has updated versions of the patches since those were a couple of months old |
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| [23:03:22] | stuartm: | gigem: ChannelUtil::GetInputID() seems completely redundant now, is that the case? (SELECT cardid WHERE cardid=:CARDID;) |
| [23:08:13] | stuartm: | similarly a number of functions in CardUtil which do the same thing |
| [23:11:57] | stuartm: | if inputid and cardid are now the same thing a lot of redundant queries could be eliminated which would speed up many things |
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