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| [09:19:31] | stuarta: | morning all |
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| [16:26:57] | stuarta: | well i have a suspect for 0.27.4 dropping audio streams when it transcodes |
| [16:27:40] | stuarta: | https://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/commit/?i . . . d5d7975dd675 |
| [16:35:54] | stuarta: | but it really shouldn't as the stream channel counts are all >= 2 |
| [16:43:13] | stuartm: | bah, I definitely need to move my email/websites to a vm host, only thing really holding me back is that I've no experience with setting up an email server |
| [16:44:15] | stuarta: | stuartm: found one that gives you a host for about £7 pm, dual stack, native ipv4 & ipv6 |
| [16:44:59] | stuarta: | now i just have to find it again |
| [16:45:22] | stuarta: | also how many users to you have. 1 or more? |
| [16:45:38] | stuarta: | you can get some reasonable managed services for 1 user |
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| [16:45:45] | stuarta: | or gmail for free |
| [16:47:17] | stuarta: | https://www.mythic-beasts.com/servers/virtual |
| [16:49:26] | stuartm: | multiple users, running my own is still my preferred option, one of the reasons for moving to a VM is so I get full control over the security – hence 'free' mail services are out of the question |
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| [16:51:22] | stuarta: | i was thinking about putting my email on one of those, and ditching the full server i'm renting |
| [16:51:46] | stuartm: | £5 a month is pretty much what I pay now for shared hosting, shame that package doesn't come with IPv4 instead of IPv6 |
| [16:52:09] | stuarta: | that's why th £7 package isn't too bad |
| [16:52:36] | stuarta: | consider i'm paying 50 euro a month currently |
| [16:52:37] | stuartm: | stuarta: no, it's still a good price |
| [16:53:41] | stuarta: | https://www.hetzner.de/gb/hosting/produktmatr . . . roduktmatrix |
| [16:53:44] | stuartm: | didn't mean to suggest it was unreasonable, but of course I'd be even happier to pay exactly what I'm paying now :) |
| [16:53:56] | stuarta: | the vx6 is 7 euro a month |
| [16:54:03] | stuarta: | ~= £5 |
| [16:54:05] | stuarta: | :) |
| [16:54:27] | stuarta: | that's where i host my server |
| [16:56:21] | stuartm: | I do like that mythic offer fedora which is closest to what I use at home |
| [16:57:27] | stuartm: | I was looking at one last year which had datacentres in France ... can't remember what the name was |
| [16:57:45] | stuarta: | i know the one you mean, i've heard their io bandwidth sucks badly |
| [16:58:53] | stuarta: | hmmm, i have less email than i thought. only 1.1Gb |
| [17:00:31] | stuarta: | cheeky buggers mythic-beasts prices are ex-VAT |
| [17:01:19] | stuartm: | think it was OVH ... yeah, it was |
| [17:01:26] | stuarta: | what i want to upgrade to is this https://www.hetzner.de/gb/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex40 |
| [17:01:28] | stuartm: | https://www.ovh.co.uk/vps/vps-classic.xml |
| [17:02:15] | stuartm: | for a low traffic mail server, their £2 a month Classic 1 seems like a bargin |
| [17:02:53] | stuarta: | didn't we decide that since they are so low traffic, a lot of their ips have a bad reputation as ex spam ips? |
| [17:03:01] | stuarta: | er low cost |
| [17:04:11] | stuartm: | maybe ... I should have taken notes |
| [17:05:49] | stuartm: | still, might make a good playground so I can establish the sort of configuration and software I want to use, before switching up to one of the more expensive hosts for 'production' |
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| [17:09:41] | stuarta: | heh |
| [17:09:54] | stuarta: | right, i'm done for the day. later |
| [17:20:26] | stuartm: | Hetzner's bandwidth policy isn't clear – they don't charge for over usage (good), instead they limit bandwidth (ok), permanently (Huh?) |
| [17:21:07] | stuartm: | is that 'permanently' until the month is up, or for as long as you're a customer? |
| [17:22:44] | stuartm: | ok, terms suggest the latter – screw up and go over the limit, you either get permanently throttled or you get a one time reprieve if you pay a fine |
| [17:25:33] | stuartm: | don't think I've ever used that much bandwidth in a month, but all the same that's a bit strict |
| [17:34:07] | dekarl: | tgm4883: mythbuntu 12.04.5 ships a hardware enablement stack that was end-of-support in august and directly asks for an upograde. is that an purpose#? |
| [17:35:35] | dekarl: | stuarta, we recognize some audio streams as "mp3 0channels"... |
| [17:38:34] | dekarl: | tgm4883: need to verify, could be that the install was 12.04.4 |
| [17:40:01] | tgm4883: | dekarl: cat /var/log/installer/media-inf |
| [17:40:04] | tgm4883: | o |
| [17:40:08] | tgm4883: | that should be media-info |
| [17:40:42] | tgm4883: | do we even have a 12.04.5 ISO? |
| [17:40:50] | tgm4883: | Our recommended ISO would be 14.04 |
| [17:41:00] | tgm4883: | or 14.04.2 right now |
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| [19:09:57] | dekarl: | tgm4883: ok, its 12.04.*4* |
| [19:12:24] | dekarl: | doh, I got confused with ubuntu 12.04.*5* from august |
| [19:52:26] | dekarl: | tgm4883: updating to 14.04 now. I wanted to avoid mixing up desaster recovery and upgrading. but now I see that master was pulled from the precise ppa (as opposed to being left at the last built version) so I'm biting the apple now |
| [19:55:10] | stuartm: | stuarta: are you able to access the webfrontend via ipv6? |
| [20:01:25] | stuartm: | meh, I hate ipv6, nothing I'd like to do more right now than line those responsible for designing it up against a wall |
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| [20:42:00] | stuarta: | stuartm: i'll have to check |
| [20:44:17] | stuarta: | stuartm: master works |
| [20:45:23] | stuarta: | stuartm: so the answer is yes, seems to work just fine |
| [20:45:47] | stuarta: | btw. i think ipv6 has a lot more positives than it does negatives |
| [20:46:27] | stuarta: | anyway, i'm done for the evening. chat tomorrow |
| [20:58:20] | stuartm: | stuarta: doesn't matter what I put into the address bar of my browser, I'm unable to bring up anything |
| [21:00:46] | stuartm: | stuarta: I've no issue with the principal of ipv6, just lots of problems with the implementation i.e. whose stupid idea was it to use : as a separator, which conflicts with the port separator? Who thought it would be good if link local addresses would only work if you also specified the interface to use? |
| [21:02:12] | stuartm: | http://[fe80::222:15ff:fed2:b2f7]:6544 doesn't work |
| [21:02:58] | stuartm: | I've a gnawing feeling that it's because browsers just don't can't handle link local IPs ... |
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| [22:16:57] | dekarl: | just one round of boot-repair from a live disk later (why do updates tend to break grub?) and I got a running MBE again :) |
| [22:22:23] | stuartm: | dekarl: which distro? |
| [22:22:59] | stuartm: | in the past it's only been my ubuntu upgrades which tend to self destruct |
| [22:26:14] | dekarl: | stuartm, aye... been wondering if I should try RootOnZFS with Ubuntu, but the remark "will break due to installing Grub without ZFS boot support" scared me away. If its going to break either way I might as well enjoy a proper filesystem with checksumming... |
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