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| [00:01:50] | dekarl: | jpabq: just tested livetv on master from mumudvb, works well. That was MPEG2TS over RTP over multicast. I have to look if I have a RTSP around |
| [00:02:07] | dekarl: | worked like a charm |
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| [00:17:55] | jpabq: | dekarl: thanks. I am sure I will figure this out. |
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| [14:37:02] | stuartm: | having second thoughts about this migration to using a frame, without doubt it has some advantages, as well as being ideologically correct, but there are some disadvantages too, then there's all the existing setup stuff which needs to be ported over |
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| [14:38:09] | stuartm: | I've put in a lot of work already, some of which applies even if we keep the status quo and I don't know whether it's better to keep moving forward or not :( |
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| [17:20:27] | stuarta: | stuartm: so what's the long term benefit of each option, and is there some other way of that may be better? |
| [17:23:23] | stuartm: | div is a little faster, although it's not obvious why, slightly less html duplication is required – styles and scripts loaded in the header of the main page apply everywhere |
| [17:23:40] | stuarta: | div is the original way? |
| [17:23:49] | stuartm: | the latter is a feature new to frames with html 5, but no browsers support it yet |
| [17:23:51] | stuartm: | yep |
| [17:24:27] | stuartm: | frames allows javascript scripts to be easily 'stopped' and unregistered with event listeners when the pages they are associated with are no longer displayed, this last one is pretty important |
| [17:25:06] | stuartm: | frames easily allow each page to leverage multiple js files by specifying them inline |
| [17:25:32] | stuartm: | and absolute positioning is much, much easier in frames, since everything is relative to the frame edge |
| [17:26:00] | stuarta: | so what's the downside? |
| [17:28:16] | ** stuarta heads out to collect daughter from nursery. ** | |
| [17:28:25] | stuarta: | back later|tomorrow |
| [17:28:55] | stuartm: | not much downside to frames really, except for some html duplication, each setup page currently is basically a fragment of a page instead of a whole page, with frames you need to provide a complete page |
| [17:29:48] | stuartm: | but I've come up with an approach which squirts the existing setup pages into a template, which pretty much eliminates that as an issue |
| [17:35:00] | stuartm: | it all came to a head with the websocket code, there was no simple way to have scripts unregister themselves as listeners for events when pages were no longer displayed, it might have been possible to work around it with lots more javascript and but it wasn't going to be easy and it just tipped the scales |
| [17:38:16] | stuartm: | a lot of the stuff we are/were using javascript for is possible with just html/css if you use it properly and I'm a big believer in doing things natively if possible – as I discovered, native css animations are much faster than jQuery ones |
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| [20:08:37] | stuarta: | awesome. complete successful run of the ansible playbook, so now in theory i could rebuild mizar in about 1hr |
| [20:09:19] | stuarta: | todo_list += database & other data backups |
| [20:11:15] | ** stuarta wanders off for food ** | |
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| [21:03:45] | stuartm: | ok, my workaround for loading the setup stuff works, it's a bit slow but I'm sure we'll fix that – good news is that I don't have to re-write it all |
| [21:05:00] | stuartm: | still some context issues to figure out, but it's progress of sorts |
| [21:07:07] | stuartm: | triggering guide reloads in response to backend schedule changes is working and it's pretty cool (if I can say so) |
| [21:07:17] | jheizer: | Nice |
| [21:07:23] | jheizer: | You are kicking some butt |
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| [21:11:32] | Roklobsta: | if developing myth paid $50 an hour, who'd be the richest? |
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| [21:22:09] | dekarl: | Roklobsta: Our users would be the richest, no one else has such a nice mythical convergence box :) |
| [21:23:22] | Roklobsta: | it's true. |
| [21:23:35] | Roklobsta: | 6 years on we are still very happy with it |
| [21:38:51] | stuartm: | It would be interesting to see what we could do if we were actually being paid, I think everything would be a lot more polished |
| [21:41:12] | stuartm: | but how many of us would really want to deal with paying customers? Some users already feel that they deserve our full attention ... |
| [21:42:10] | stuartm: | I think I might actually like to get paid, but only if the money came with no expectations attached :) |
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| [21:51:51] | dekarl: | sounds a bit like patreon. "this is what I do, if you like me to be able to do more of this then insert money here" |
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| [22:53:12] | stuartm: | stuarta: services links are returning 404? |
| [22:53:58] | stuartm: | ah, but only if accessed over https |
| [22:55:44] | stuartm: | which is a slight problem for the webfrontend |
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