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| [08:20:38] | stuarta: | stuartm: done |
| [08:21:11] | stuarta: | stuartm: build forced. due in ~1hr |
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| [09:16:31] | stuartm: | stuarta: thank you |
| [09:17:57] | stuartm: | well it helped with a lot of false positives, but it seems a bit unstable :/ |
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| [11:43:59] | stuartm: | dekarl: that audiooutputgraph false positive was previously in our suppressions file (warnings we ignore), but after my commit the line number changed and it reappeared |
| [11:51:43] | dekarl: | oh, that explains it. also the shorter list and new points look good |
| [11:54:44] | stuartm: | adding internal cppcheck errors to the suppressions list, I've reported the crashing upstream but so far they've been unable to reproducce |
| [11:56:12] | stuartm: | I had reported the remove() issue months ago, but some false positives are fixed quickly and others like this one linger for a while |
| [11:56:56] | stuartm: | there's still a false positive memory leak in the vbi code which I reported years ago, the very first false positive I reported |
| [12:02:01] | stuartm: | looks like they did actually fix that based on the simplified sample code I produced, but the more complicated real life situation still triggers the issue |
| [12:03:04] | dekarl: | Ahh, somehow this one resurfaced https://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/commit/my . . . d3294a217568 might as well remove the variable if its not used |
| [12:49:32] | stuartm: | we lost the icc and clang builders? |
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| [13:46:19] | stuarta: | stuartm: lemme try building master of cppcheck |
| [13:47:36] | stuarta: | stuartm: have you pushed an ignore to stop the segfaults? |
| [13:49:49] | stuarta: | anyway, i've updated cppcheck to 1.69 dev |
| [13:50:09] | dekarl: | stuarta, (11:54:44) stuartm: adding internal cppcheck errors to the suppressions list |
| [13:50:36] | stuarta: | can we un-add them? want to see if they are fixed.... |
| [13:52:02] | stuarta: | maybe i have to try by hand |
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| [14:41:19] | stuartm: | stuarta: 1.68 was only released a week ago, I don't think the issue has been fixed, just that it has something to do with the combination of arguments we're supplying |
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| [16:21:37] | dekarl: | stuartm, sounds like it might be related to #10892 |
| [16:21:37] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10892 ** | |
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| [16:23:20] | stuartm: | dekarl: maybe |
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| [17:01:53] | sceo-laptop: | stuartm: so webfrontend should be running on 6544 right as long as my backend is running... is that right? |
| [17:02:05] | stuartm: | correct |
| [17:05:09] | sceo-laptop: | stuartm: ok I'm pretty close on getting this set up I think – I love this! I can only see it from the machine it's installed on – I'm running it in a VM so wondering if ufw is at play or something. It's not something enforced by webfrontend, right? Like defaulting to localhost access only? |
| [17:07:01] | stuartm: | sceo-laptop: nothing on the WebFrontend restricting visibility, so either firewall or something similar |
| [17:08:03] | sceo-laptop: | stuartm: k that was my suspicion – if I can just get that going I should be fairly set to look at CSS, etc |
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| [18:19:17] | sceo-laptop: | stuartm: so yeah actually it does depend on whether your master backend and local are bound to externals or internals – it sort of obeys the same logic as the gui frontend. But once I changed those, it's up and running. |
| [18:41:20] | sceo-laptop: | stuartm: also trying to come up with a way to tweak css directly in my git repo, but obviously a make install created a different copy of the source to work from. I tried symlinking but that whitescreened it. Any advice? |
| [18:45:45] | stuartm: | sceo-laptop: it's not perfect, but I use rsync to copy files into the installed location, so I make changes then run the rsync (rsync -crvu --delete mythtv/html/ /usr/local/share/mythtv/html/) before refreshing in the browser |
| [18:46:23] | stuartm: | I believe you can override the share location at runtime, with an environmental variable, so that might be a better approach |
| [18:47:11] | sceo-laptop: | stuartm: yeah I thought about just working inside share and then copying out to git when I wanted to commit. I'll see if I can come up with something better. |
| [18:52:08] | stuartm: | hmm, seems you can set the config directory at runtime, but not the share directory or any specific directories within it |
| [18:52:19] | sceo-laptop: | stuartm: what is the webserver that's running – NodeJS-like or something? Mostly trying to find logs or something; methinks I could make it work with a symlink or hard link if I could get the right config. |
| [18:52:38] | sceo-laptop: | I'm betting the whitescreen is because the web server won't follow symlinks or something |
| [18:52:49] | sceo-laptop: | I might try just symlinking the css folder instead of html folder |
| [18:53:18] | stuartm: | sceo-laptop: it's written from scratch, I can't think why it wouldn't follow symlinks, but it's possible |
| [18:53:31] | sceo-laptop: | ahh ok |
| [18:53:42] | stuartm: | logs can be obtained by running mythbackend with -v http |
| [18:53:58] | stuartm: | and --loglevel=debug to get a lot more info |
| [18:57:47] | sceo-laptop: | stuartm: yeah just giving me a 404 to the css file if it's symlinked |
| [18:58:07] | sceo-laptop: | will add loglevel debug and see if there's somethign more specific |
| [19:01:27] | sceo-laptop: | stuartm: hard links work – you just have to do a hard link for each file – if it's just css there's only four. |
| [19:01:38] | sceo-laptop: | maybe I'll pursue that for a while. |
| [19:03:35] | stuartm: | there are some changes in there, commented out, which let the menu go fullscreen on mobiles, but that's as far as I got – the changes don't work so well on everything else since there's too much to squeeze in without layout changes |
| [19:05:11] | stuartm: | so the idea is to offer the layout/styling you see now on a large screen, and use very different css to lay it out (perhaps hiding less important info) to work well on a smaller screen |
| [19:05:41] | sceo-laptop: | what's the general architecture of these four css files? |
| [19:05:47] | sceo-laptop: | seems like site.css is the bulk of it? |
| [19:06:09] | stuartm: | if that proves too difficult without template changes, then we can look at offering different templates for different devices, but in theory it should be possible to do it all with css |
| [19:06:38] | sceo-laptop: | stuartm: yeah I tend to agree – css is powerful. do you have any interest in using a preprocessor? |
| [19:07:07] | stuartm: | sceo-laptop: site.css has the general stuff, but there are more css files for each 'section', so under tv/css/ you have files corresponding to the different pages under 'TV' in the menu |
| [19:07:55] | sceo-laptop: | aha – understood – will need to dive in a bit more. :) |
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| [19:10:05] | stuartm: | sceo-laptop: I've been attempting to keep it 'vanilla' for now, but I may consider a preprocessor if I'm convinced that it really would make things simpler to maintain – too many different third party layers can make it more complex, as the documentation you work from is all over the place |
| [19:11:37] | stuartm: | sceo-laptop: the html directory could use a cleanup, but when I started on the WebFrontend I aimed to put the different files in logical and consistent places and to keep file sizes manageable |
| [19:12:50] | stuartm: | one huge css file would be a nightmare to work with, whereas having page specific css in it's own file means you won't have trouble finding what you're looking for |
| [19:12:51] | sceo-laptop: | yeah – it's a tradeoff. It makes responsive and media queries much easier, but yes – ultimately more complex, ruby gems, version control, yadda yadda |
| [19:13:27] | sceo-laptop: | k, I'm gonna run off and start to digest the state of it all :) |
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| [19:16:04] | stuartm: | sceo-laptop: if the code/css is going to be maintained for years to come, then the less you have to know about various extensions, libraries and preprocessors the better – hence vanilla js, css and html which everyone has to learn anyway can keep the bar low for new developers |
| [19:16:59] | sceo-laptop: | stuartm: yeah I can see that. big benefit there for on-ramping. Even me now if I DIDN'T know all that stuff, this would be an even bigger process. |
| [19:17:48] | stuartm: | another good reason is that everyone who has experience of using a particular js library, or css preprocessor will want to use that one when they submit patches, before you know it you're using Prototype, Angular, jQuery and a half dozen other js frameworks |
| [19:18:45] | stuartm: | but no-one can argue if you only allow stuff from the standards – no-one approach gets preferential treatment |
| [19:19:26] | stuartm: | so those are my reasons for avoiding them so far |
| [19:22:31] | stuartm: | the use of jQuery preceeds my involvement with the web side of things, although I'll admit some nice things are possible with it, other bits make my head hurt e.g. the xhr wrapper seems to be made more complicated than plain javascript and some other things just do things differently for the sake of it, without really offering any additional value |
| [19:23:22] | stuartm: | so I've used it because it's there, but not always because I like it |
| [19:31:02] | sceo-laptop: | fair enough. personally I think jQuery is like a minmum requirement for doing battle with things like cross-browser XHR, etc – so I'm happy it's there ;) |
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| [20:09:25] | stuartm: | note we're not bothering to provide compatibility with older browsers, if it's not the latest available version then don't worry about it |
| [20:11:23] | stuartm: | if the browser can't stick to the standards, well that's not our problem ;) |
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| [20:20:49] | sceo-laptop: | stuartm: ahh that explains the calc()'s |
| [20:20:51] | sceo-laptop: | :) |
| [20:24:35] | stuartm: | unlike the average website, our target audience is generally tech saavy, they aren't stuck running IE6 on Windows XP |
| [20:25:45] | stuartm: | even for IE we're forcing 'Edge' mode, so it should be standards compliant and not reverting to 'compatibility' mode |
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