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Thursday, December 11th, 2014, 00:02 UTC
[00:02:31] gigem: FWIW, I agree with sphery on all of this, especially on copying the little bit of channel meta data into recorded at recording time.
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[09:54:46] stuarta: morning all
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[18:52:30] ToshiTV: HI all.
[18:56:48] ToshiTV: I tried to install mythtv, using this packager: https://github.com/MythTV/packaging to compile and generate debs for my Kanotix (debian jessie) install with systemd.
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[18:57:09] ToshiTV: All went fine., At instal time I got an error installing relating user syslog does not exist.
[18:57:52] ToshiTV: systemd does not use syslog... I create a user temporaly and installed ok, but I am not sure of the implications.
[18:58:03] ToshiTV: is there a better fix for systemd?
[19:01:51] superm1: ToshiTV: is that the only problem you ran into?
[19:02:06] ToshiTV: yes
[19:02:30] superm1: what about init script?
[19:02:31] ToshiTV: I am running now mythtv-setup.... to continue the process
[19:03:29] ToshiTV: superm1:sorry init script you mean which one?
[19:03:47] superm1: ToshiTV: the packaging today doesn't provide an init script for systemd use, only upstart use i believe
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[19:03:58] superm1: so i'd think that there should be a secondary problem
[19:04:32] superm1: let me take a step back though; i should have said first off that we can definitely add some stuff into there to make it work better on all deb based distros, it's just "*buntu" focued right now
[19:04:34] ToshiTV: I installed mythtv-backend on /etc/init.d from a previous install and started ok I think
[19:04:55] superm1: do you know which particular deb package was complaining about the syslog problems?
[19:05:11] superm1: i'm guessing mythtv-common
[19:05:27] ToshiTV: superm1: yes I see. Let me check.. yes that one
[19:05:44] ToshiTV: in a chown sysconfig:adm operation
[19:05:44] superm1: so what owner owns /var/log with systemd?
[19:05:55] ToshiTV: let me check
[19:06:48] ToshiTV: drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4.0K Dec 11 06:25 log
[19:06:51] ToshiTV: root
[19:07:16] superm1: root also owns the logs themselves?
[19:09:16] ToshiTV: ok, some logs themselves are owned by root:root, root:adm, root:utmp, ntp:ntp, depending
[19:09:24] superm1: ah okay
[19:09:50] superm1: so it's not like with rsyslog where there is a user that actually writes the logs
[19:10:27] ToshiTV: superm1: I creater a syslog user temporaly and /var/log/mythtv is owned by rsyslog:adm
[19:11:03] ToshiTV: superm1: yes that seems tohappen
[19:11:16] superm1: well once you finish getting things setup, lets see if that's appropriate
[19:11:41] superm1: root:adm might be more appropriate for your setup
[19:12:03] superm1: or /var/log/mythtv might not even do anything since rsyslog doesn't configure it to log there instead
[19:12:18] ToshiTV: ok
[19:13:21] ToshiTV: superm1: I got only mythtv-setup.log on /var/log/mythtv
[19:13:49] superm1: so mythbackend will probably end up logging to the regular /var/log/syslog then
[19:16:21] ToshiTV: mmm let me see
[19:17:50] ToshiTV: nope ot on that one. only clamav packages messages
[19:18:29] ToshiTV: will see other /var/log files... I am on mythtv-setup defining cards.. there should be logging
[19:32:53] ToshiTV: superm1: mmmm no trace of mythtv-backend on /var/log
[19:33:24] ToshiTV: In the script to run /etc/init.d/mythbackend I used:
[19:33:29] ToshiTV: ARGS="--daemon --logpath /var/log/mythtv
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[19:35:35] ToshiTV: ok, I will continue configuring to see what happen.
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[20:25:23] dekarl: who is our freenode meister? ChanServ insists in +s (secret channel) for #mythtv-de. no wonder its so quiet in there ;)
[21:16:20] stuartm: dekarl: afaik we've never 'owned' that channel, so we have no control over the flags
[21:17:37] stuartm: seems it lapsed back to ownership by freenode staff, you'd have to approach them to take it over
[21:18:24] stuartm: dekarl: /msg ChanServ info #mythtv-de
[21:27:26] dekarl: this channel is secret, too?
[21:28:03] dekarl: ./mode #mythtv-users
[21:29:18] dekarl: only -users is visible...
[21:32:30] stuartm: I think that one is intentional
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[21:37:38] dekarl: hmmm, looks like no easy fix.... "freenode group registration is currently suspended," https://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml
[21:39:11] stuartm: dekarl: we're already registered
[21:41:19] dekarl: strange, the founder list was "chutt, stuarta" not some kind of group, for -users its just stuarta
[21:41:47] stuartm: we've got the group for the cloaks
[21:42:33] stuartm: channels were registered long before the group was setup and I don't suppose anyone even considered that the channels can be registered to the group instead of individuals
[21:43:17] dekarl: hmm, does this group have a name so I can look at the "owners" and ask them to request #mythtv-* to be move under the group and be made visible (maybe no #mythtv, but the rest)
[21:47:15] stuartm: group is 'mythtv'
[21:47:26] stuartm: but stuarta would know more
[21:47:35] stuartm: you don't have a cloak?
[21:47:51] stuartm: stuarta: ^^
[21:48:45] dekarl: hmm, no such thing as a {Noname,XML,Myth}TV cloak, is there? ^^
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[22:08:38] dekarl: stuartm, fixed -^ thanks for the reminder... took me some time "(22:56:19) NickServ: (notice) Registered : Dec 04 13:22:35 2004 (10 years, 1 week, 2 days, 08:36:09 ago)"
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