| Thursday, December 11th, 2014, 00:02 UTC | ||
| [00:02:31] | gigem: | FWIW, I agree with sphery on all of this, especially on copying the little bit of channel meta data into recorded at recording time. |
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| [09:54:46] | stuarta: | morning all |
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| [18:52:30] | ToshiTV: | HI all. |
| [18:56:48] | ToshiTV: | I tried to install mythtv, using this packager: https://github.com/MythTV/packaging to compile and generate debs for my Kanotix (debian jessie) install with systemd. |
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| [18:57:09] | ToshiTV: | All went fine., At instal time I got an error installing relating user syslog does not exist. |
| [18:57:52] | ToshiTV: | systemd does not use syslog... I create a user temporaly and installed ok, but I am not sure of the implications. |
| [18:58:03] | ToshiTV: | is there a better fix for systemd? |
| [19:01:51] | superm1: | ToshiTV: is that the only problem you ran into? |
| [19:02:06] | ToshiTV: | yes |
| [19:02:30] | superm1: | what about init script? |
| [19:02:31] | ToshiTV: | I am running now mythtv-setup.... to continue the process |
| [19:03:29] | ToshiTV: | superm1:sorry init script you mean which one? |
| [19:03:47] | superm1: | ToshiTV: the packaging today doesn't provide an init script for systemd use, only upstart use i believe |
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| [19:03:58] | superm1: | so i'd think that there should be a secondary problem |
| [19:04:32] | superm1: | let me take a step back though; i should have said first off that we can definitely add some stuff into there to make it work better on all deb based distros, it's just "*buntu" focued right now |
| [19:04:34] | ToshiTV: | I installed mythtv-backend on /etc/init.d from a previous install and started ok I think |
| [19:04:55] | superm1: | do you know which particular deb package was complaining about the syslog problems? |
| [19:05:11] | superm1: | i'm guessing mythtv-common |
| [19:05:27] | ToshiTV: | superm1: yes I see. Let me check.. yes that one |
| [19:05:44] | ToshiTV: | in a chown sysconfig:adm operation |
| [19:05:44] | superm1: | so what owner owns /var/log with systemd? |
| [19:05:55] | ToshiTV: | let me check |
| [19:06:48] | ToshiTV: | drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4.0K Dec 11 06:25 log |
| [19:06:51] | ToshiTV: | root |
| [19:07:16] | superm1: | root also owns the logs themselves? |
| [19:09:16] | ToshiTV: | ok, some logs themselves are owned by root:root, root:adm, root:utmp, ntp:ntp, depending |
| [19:09:24] | superm1: | ah okay |
| [19:09:50] | superm1: | so it's not like with rsyslog where there is a user that actually writes the logs |
| [19:10:27] | ToshiTV: | superm1: I creater a syslog user temporaly and /var/log/mythtv is owned by rsyslog:adm |
| [19:11:03] | ToshiTV: | superm1: yes that seems tohappen |
| [19:11:16] | superm1: | well once you finish getting things setup, lets see if that's appropriate |
| [19:11:41] | superm1: | root:adm might be more appropriate for your setup |
| [19:12:03] | superm1: | or /var/log/mythtv might not even do anything since rsyslog doesn't configure it to log there instead |
| [19:12:18] | ToshiTV: | ok |
| [19:13:21] | ToshiTV: | superm1: I got only mythtv-setup.log on /var/log/mythtv |
| [19:13:49] | superm1: | so mythbackend will probably end up logging to the regular /var/log/syslog then |
| [19:16:21] | ToshiTV: | mmm let me see |
| [19:17:50] | ToshiTV: | nope ot on that one. only clamav packages messages |
| [19:18:29] | ToshiTV: | will see other /var/log files... I am on mythtv-setup defining cards.. there should be logging |
| [19:32:53] | ToshiTV: | superm1: mmmm no trace of mythtv-backend on /var/log |
| [19:33:24] | ToshiTV: | In the script to run /etc/init.d/mythbackend I used: |
| [19:33:29] | ToshiTV: | ARGS="--daemon --logpath /var/log/mythtv |
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| [19:35:35] | ToshiTV: | ok, I will continue configuring to see what happen. |
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| [20:25:23] | dekarl: | who is our freenode meister? ChanServ insists in +s (secret channel) for #mythtv-de. no wonder its so quiet in there ;) |
| [21:16:20] | stuartm: | dekarl: afaik we've never 'owned' that channel, so we have no control over the flags |
| [21:17:37] | stuartm: | seems it lapsed back to ownership by freenode staff, you'd have to approach them to take it over |
| [21:18:24] | stuartm: | dekarl: /msg ChanServ info #mythtv-de |
| [21:27:26] | dekarl: | this channel is secret, too? |
| [21:28:03] | dekarl: | ./mode #mythtv-users |
| [21:29:18] | dekarl: | only -users is visible... |
| [21:32:30] | stuartm: | I think that one is intentional |
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| [21:37:38] | dekarl: | hmmm, looks like no easy fix.... "freenode group registration is currently suspended," https://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml |
| [21:39:11] | stuartm: | dekarl: we're already registered |
| [21:41:19] | dekarl: | strange, the founder list was "chutt, stuarta" not some kind of group, for -users its just stuarta |
| [21:41:47] | stuartm: | we've got the group for the cloaks |
| [21:42:33] | stuartm: | channels were registered long before the group was setup and I don't suppose anyone even considered that the channels can be registered to the group instead of individuals |
| [21:43:17] | dekarl: | hmm, does this group have a name so I can look at the "owners" and ask them to request #mythtv-* to be move under the group and be made visible (maybe no #mythtv, but the rest) |
| [21:47:15] | stuartm: | group is 'mythtv' |
| [21:47:26] | stuartm: | but stuarta would know more |
| [21:47:35] | stuartm: | you don't have a cloak? |
| [21:47:51] | stuartm: | stuarta: ^^ |
| [21:48:45] | dekarl: | hmm, no such thing as a {Noname,XML,Myth}TV cloak, is there? ^^ |
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| [22:08:38] | dekarl: | stuartm, fixed -^ thanks for the reminder... took me some time "(22:56:19) NickServ: (notice) Registered : Dec 04 13:22:35 2004 (10 years, 1 week, 2 days, 08:36:09 ago)" |
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