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[09:25:54] paul-h: stuartm, dblain: https://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users . . . /370036.html
[09:26:12] paul-h: If I'm reading that correctly it looks like you are more likely to screw up your database using the services api than changing the DB directly :(
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[09:42:26] stuartm: sounds like UpdateDBChannel has been implemented incorrectly
[09:42:56] stuartm: it's not meant to update a value which was not specified
[09:59:22] paul-h: I know it's easier said than done but these should be better documented and ideally there should be unit tests to make sure they work as intended
[10:00:52] paul-h: I'm not a big fan of services API so it's not something I will be working on if I can help it
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[10:03:15] paul-h: I tried to love when I was looking at the channel icon lookup stuff but we didn't get on :)
[10:05:08] paul-h: What's with all this Myth should listen on all interfaces that has suddenly popped up – never been a problem before that I can remember
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[10:11:43] paul-h: tgm4883: https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=440 I can see what he means at the end of a channel scan the list shows as a light purple text on a purple back ground
[10:12:42] paul-h: I think it's when the listbox toggles from being enabled to disabled or maybe it's the other way around
[10:13:47] paul-h: you probably just need to tweak something in qtlook.txt
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[10:31:24] henkpoley: I notice that mythtv does not set the screen refresh rate when it remembers it has already set it to that value. Which could be incorrect if anything else mucked with the refresh-rate. Might be nice to query xrandr.
[10:39:32] paul-h: jya: ^
[10:40:50] paul-h: If I had my way Myth would become an embedded OS like OpenElec so it wouldn't be a problem :)
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[11:46:15] dekarl: so we are still "investing" ressources into pre-mythui fixes? oh my
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[11:55:04] paul-h: dekarl: is that any reason not to fix it though we've been updating those screens to MythUI for what at least 3 years now I don't see anything changing sometime soon
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[11:59:25] dekarl: I'd prefer to see us lowering the barrier of entry for themers instead of collecting workarounds for stuff that should have been removed three years ago. Its such a waste of ressources that we don't have.
[11:59:46] dekarl: But you are right, as the time has already been wasted we might as well fix it.
[12:04:42] paul-h: It's literally a two minute fix for someone who cares to look at it
[12:07:39] dekarl: I see. But I still think that we need to get rid of some of our technical debt in the near future.
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[12:12:23] paul-h: I really think we need a detailed plan or roadmap of where we are heading but that sort of stuff has never gone down well with devs
[12:12:42] paul-h: anyway lunch time
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[13:30:09] Guest50059: hi, I want to debug a misbehaviour, maybe someone can give me a pointer where to start. running 0.27.4, when recording 2 shows with overlap (same channel) mythtv tells me it recorded the second show but there is no file for second and third.
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[13:42:33] stuartm: Sash: that sounds a lot like a driver issue
[13:43:20] Sash: could, be. I changed from dvb-t to dbv-s(2), never had that before
[13:46:45] stuartm: is it a dual tuner?
[13:47:42] Sash: no, single tuner. cheap card :)
[13:48:40] Sash: I would think it should not be an issue when recording on the same channel only when switching or multiplexing 2 channels on the transponder.
[13:51:03] stuartm: that's what I'd expect too, but still past experience is that failed recordings are driver bug nine times out of ten
[13:51:54] Sash: then I will add some debug code to the driver side of things
[13:52:07] stuartm: are you recording to an NFS or Samba mount? Anything remotely unusual in your setup?
[13:52:44] Sash: no, the most unusual is that there is a symlink to the actual directory on another local hard drive
[13:53:14] stuartm: can't see that causing a problem
[13:53:22] Sash: anything else is pretty normal.
[13:53:34] Sash: recording the first showing works flawless
[13:53:42] stuartm: lastly, do you have the "Use card on demand" setting enabled or disabled?
[13:53:48] Sash: one sec
[13:54:27] Sash: it is on. I can try without it.
[13:54:27] stuartm: if there is a driver bug, it might be that it doesn't like us closing our file handle then immediately opening it again
[13:55:56] Sash: turned it off, doing a test recording
[13:56:14] stuartm: many drivers issues tend to be because the driver author never tested rapid sequences of commands, such as closing and immediately opening, or opening then immediately tuning, or concurrent tuning of both tuners on dual tuner cards
[13:57:12] stuartm: all of which is a 'legal' usage of the API, but which not all applications trigger
[13:59:16] Sash: ok, this could happen on channel or transponder change, but if I record 2 shows next to each other (with overlay) shouldn't the driver just keep untouched?
[13:59:29] Sash: testing the recording, will know in about 2–3 mins
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[14:01:58] Sash: hmm, I've just noticed in the upcoming recordings: 2 shows on the same channel that the 2nd one is marked as conflict after I set the simult. recording settings (forgot the exact name) to 1
[14:02:41] Sash: but anyway, with on demand off, the error did not happen. the second show has a file
[14:06:22] Sash: doing another test with 3 min overlap each. can tell in about 10 min if this works
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[14:16:22] Sash: it does not like overlay, now the second showing has no file
[14:20:17] Sash: oh, saw something in the log: good: >>Updating status for "show 1" on cardid 1 (Recording => Recorded)<< bad >>Updating status for "show 2" on cardid 5 (Tuning => Recorder Failed)<< cardid 1 vs 5. I only have one card
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[14:44:55] Sash: ah, I think I finally understand the issue. If I want to record 2 shows that overlap (start early + end later) mythtv does this by opening the device twice. my card/driver does not support this, so the second one fails. but it looks like this error is not handled properly and the recording is shown as recorded. probably the device is not closed right and the third show has the same issue again. my old card supported that and there it worked fine. workaround: s
[14:45:01] Sash: etting max recording to 1 and hope for the replay. that sucks, but looks like it's not mythtv's fault.
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[17:34:04] paul-h: Anybody able to get the BBC red button to work at the moment?
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[17:55:09] stuartm: paul-h: doesn't seem to be working here, suspect an unintended consequence of https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/61f9ac9a8
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[17:57:00] stuartm: maybe not, works on Freesat, not on Freeview
[17:57:29] stuartm: get an on-screen mheg error on Freeview suggesting that the mheg data carousel is still there
[17:58:30] stuartm: iplayer still works on Freesat
[18:01:55] paul-h: OK I can't get it to work on Freesat either at the moment just keeps timing out looking for a file
[18:06:40] stuartm: which channel?
[18:06:48] stuartm: I tried BBC News
[18:09:06] paul-h: I was trying BBC1 HD on Freesat
[18:10:02] paul-h: Ah BBC1 SD works
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[18:15:54] paul-h: I think I see what's happening now. On FreeView you need to turn of the Interactive Channel setting and I think a restart of the FE is needed
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[18:30:49] stuartm: the interactive channel setting?
[18:36:30] paul-h: TV Settings -> Playback OSD -> Enable network access for Interactive TV
[18:37:08] stuartm: huh
[18:37:31] stuartm: wonder if there's a follow up patch from LVR to fix that
[18:37:39] paul-h: That enables/disables the Interactive Channel stuff so the red button can use the internet
[18:38:06] stuartm: yeah, I just hadn't noticed that it wasn't working on Freeview
[18:53:30] paul-h: Still compiling OpenELEC after 6 hours
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[20:59:13] paul-h: stuartm: maybe we should cherry-pick https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/03c11f466a to 0.27-fixes?
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[21:53:27] stuartm: paul-h: seems like that would be a good idea
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[22:37:20] nrobinso: Currently getting partial channel lock with HDHR Prime and MythTV. Any suggestions?
[22:56:48] MythBuild: build #2125 of master-ubuntu-current-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/2125
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