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| [08:26:50] | g44: | hi |
| [08:27:36] | g44: | could you please implement an option in mythtv to make mythbackend listen on all network interfaces so you don't have to manually set an ip once your network changes? |
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| [08:39:00] | dekarl: | g44, https://forum.mythtv.org/viewforum.php?f=9 appears to be a better place to discuss such design changes. currently the "listening IP" is not so easy to change |
| [08:39:57] | dekarl: | there is currently a discussion going on on the list, maybe you can join there, too https://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users . . . /369906.html |
| [08:40:35] | dekarl: | and please don't spam the channels with the same question. |
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| [09:42:21] | g44: | hi |
| [09:42:38] | g44: | is it possible to set mythbackend to listen on all interfaces rather than a specific ip? could you please add this feature? |
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| [10:09:11] | stuartm: | [01/11/2014 08:38:59] <dekarl> g44, https://forum.mythtv.org/viewforum.php?f=9 appears to be a better place to discuss such design changes. currently the "listening IP" is not so easy to change |
| [10:09:13] | stuartm: | [01/11/2014 08:39:57] <dekarl> there is currently a discussion going on on the list, maybe you can join there, too https://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users . . . /369906.html |
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| [10:18:04] | stuartm: | g44: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2250241&page=3 |
| [10:20:59] | g44: | stuartm: thanks, i didn't find so much info when searching the web :) |
| [10:21:27] | g44: | stuartm: but i already heard that mythbackend listens on all interfaces as long as you didn't set anything in the backend setup |
| [10:21:59] | g44: | so i guess the only way would be to remove the ip settings in the mythconverg db |
| [10:23:04] | g44: | but there should be an easier way, i also asked in #mythtv, but i didn't get an answer there yet. i think it should be made possible to set mythbackend to listen on all interfaces in mythtv setup :/ |
| [10:29:53] | g44: | on the mailing list they say you should create a virtual nic and forward traffic from the other interfaces. but i think mythbackend should be able to work without doing that :/ |
| [10:34:13] | stuartm: | basically it's not possible, and we may implement it in the future but there is no timeline |
| [10:34:55] | stuartm: | the number of people wanting their backend to be reachable from two entirely different networks is tiny |
| [10:38:36] | g44: | stuartm: but the number of dhcp user is very large i think. currently you have to set static ip address on your backend. when listening on all interfaces no network config of the backend nic/ mythbackend would be necessary |
| [10:39:19] | stuartm: | g44: most routers allow you to set static IPs for certain mac addresses, so it rarely seems to be an issue |
| [10:39:34] | g44: | and if your network subnet changes you also have to set a new ip |
| [10:40:05] | g44: | my router doesn't support static ips afaik. and even if it would i still would have to configure it |
| [10:40:37] | g44: | and afaik there are nics changing their mac address every time |
| [10:40:45] | g44: | *you boot |
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| [10:45:52] | g44: | stuartm: if i set up a virtual nic(eth1) and route traffic to/from the real nic(eth0) will dlna/upnp and mythfrontend still work? (mythbackend on eht1 and frontend + dlna clients on net eth0(subnet varying)) |
| [10:49:41] | g44: | according to the ml thread mythbackend listened on all interfaces in the past and this changed because of issues with ipv6. so i hope this will be changed again to listen on all interfaces :/ |
| [11:00:02] | enyc: | hrrm |
| [11:00:40] | enyc: | I recally ubuntu-mythtv people discussion we were e.g. yinding mysql was set to bind to 0.0.0.0 when it should have been :: which still allows ipv4 anyway, as reccomended by the mysql developers/documentation |
| [11:03:22] | g44: | enyc: mysql can run on all interfaces, so why not mythbackend too? |
| [11:15:05] | enyc: | g44: no idea! =) |
| [11:15:15] | enyc: | g44: not looked into it in detail tbh |
| [11:15:45] | enyc: | g44: i suspect, but am not sure, that when things like udp get involved, there becomes much confusion about things liek 'broadcast' / 'discovery' |
| [11:21:00] | enyc: | g44: theres now more than xoroadcast address (in as much as address makes sense), iepneding ohw things are done you could get ipv4-only-notie trying to talk to the ipv6 address of server, etc.. |
| [11:33:56] | g44: | ok i tried to create a virtual device and route traffic but it doesn't work. i can see the backend via dlna but i can't access recordings |
| [11:34:31] | g44: | anyone knows how i can make a mythbackend running on a virtual nic available to the network on the real nic? |
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| [11:36:11] | enyc: | g44: when its in that state, what do you see in 'netstat -lutnp' wrt backend? is it TCP sockets onnly or is UDP arlso involved?? |
| [11:37:12] | enyc: | g44: and, check what ip addresses its acutalyl bound to =) |
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| [12:09:12] | dekarl: | jya: fyi https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12295#comment:3 |
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| [21:43:36] | dekarl: | knightr: what do you think of this translation patch for mythweb? It removed the literal translations of "info:" and "welcome:" placeholders http://pastebin.com/Pccxzz57 |
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| [22:07:01] | knightr: | dekarl, I am not sure I understand what this patch is for, were they removed from the PHP source? |
| [22:07:47] | dekarl: | in the php source, there are placeholders like "info: welcome text for tv module" that have a more or less long introducery text in English.lang |
| [22:08:00] | knightr: | yes, I know.. |
| [22:08:21] | dekarl: | by translating it as literal "Information: TV Module" you replace the long text from English.lang with the translated marker |
| [22:08:26] | knightr: | yes |
| [22:08:27] | knightr: | I know |
| [22:08:33] | knightr: | we do it.. |
| [22:08:44] | knightr: | and we tell the translators to look at English.lang |
| [22:08:50] | knightr: | for these to know what to translate... |
| [22:08:53] | dekarl: | So I'd like to remove the translated markers to bring forward the english text, as its decribed in the translation file |
| [22:09:20] | dekarl: | many have just copied the english text to their language but did not get to translating, yet :/ |
| [22:09:29] | dekarl: | Not sure if these should be removed, too |
| [22:10:08] | knightr: | I am not sure I am getting you.. |
| [22:10:24] | knightr: | if you want the text to be translated to be in the PHP source |
| [22:10:29] | dekarl: | fyi, I'm playing around with pootle and thought I'd import the mythweb translations to harvest translation memory. After converting .lang to .xliff and loading the german file all kinds of "very short translation" warnings popped up |
| [22:10:32] | knightr: | instead of being translated these |
| [22:10:48] | knightr: | there... |
| [22:10:58] | knightr: | add it in the .PHP |
| [22:10:58] | dekarl: | no, I want the german translation to fall back to the english text, instead of providing a german translation of the place holder mark |
| [22:11:13] | knightr: | and the next time it will be run it will get added.. |
| [22:11:27] | knightr: | and aren't we getting rid of MythWeb? |
| [22:11:49] | dekarl: | yes, that's why I wanted to harvest the translations before we kill it |
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